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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: SHAKEEL on Sunday 30 May 10 21:20 BST (UK)

Title: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: SHAKEEL on Sunday 30 May 10 21:20 BST (UK): hi i found 3 graves in my village located in Pakistan trying to find out who he was and can any one of u clear the picture from the bottom so we can read wht it says thx
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: Lydart on Sunday 30 May 10 21:29 BST (UK): Shakeel ... welcome to RootsChat ! This is the place for people to find things out, and renovate pictures. How kind of you to get such a good picture and post it here. I'm sure lots of people will work on it, and also find out more about Captain Anderson

Can you tell us the name of your village/town, and whereabouts in Pakistan you are ? It might help with searching records to know where the burial is.
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: Lydart on Sunday 30 May 10 21:34 BST (UK): I did a Google search, and found this ...

http://glosters.tripod.com/offzdieda.htm

there are several Anderson's listed ...
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: SHAKEEL on Sunday 30 May 10 21:47 BST (UK): laydart the name of the village is Gujarat it located in the province of Punjab ,when ever i visit again ill make sure i get better pictures soon
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: oldhippy on Sunday 30 May 10 21:54 BST (UK): Beneath this Tomb

The remains of

CAPTAIN JOHN ANDERSON

Of the

Bengal Artillery

Killed in Action

I cant decipher the words at the bottom.
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: SHAKEEL on Sunday 30 May 10 22:04 BST (UK): hay old hippy u are right he died in the battle of Gujrat 1948 t0 1949 but when i look into the history of the battle of the gujrat then Bengal Artillery was not in action ? i cant find any thing on Bengal Artillery regiment as if it never excited
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: oldhippy on Sunday 30 May 10 22:27 BST (UK): Have a look at this link. I think you have the date mixed up. Battle of Gujrat was in 1849. The link mentions the Bengal army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gujrat
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: SHAKEEL on Sunday 30 May 10 22:31 BST (UK): CAPTAIN JOHN ANDERSON

Of the

Bengal Artillery

Killed in Action

Killed On 21.02.1849.
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: SHAKEEL on Sunday 30 May 10 22:34 BST (UK): old hippy it does mention the Bengal army but never mentions any of the Bengal Artillery regiments.if u go down u will find all the names of the regiment from east India company army and British army
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: Lynntony on Sunday 30 May 10 23:59 BST (UK): Bottom line - could it read

?? REGIMENT of FOOT?

Tony
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: Lydart on Monday 31 May 10 10:26 BST (UK): Shakeel ... its already a good photo ... but it might be possible to read the lowest letters better if you can take a picture early in the day or as dusk ... and after you've taken that, take another after you've poured a bottle of water over the stone ... they are sometimes more readable when wet !
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: chinakay on Tuesday 01 June 10 02:54 BST (UK): This is him:

BATTLE OF GUJERAT - 21st February 1849

Captain John Anderson - Bengal Horse Artillery - killed in action.
Aged 42. Son of Alexander and Christian Anderson, of London.
Grave at Gujerat - "Beneath this tomb lie the remains of Captain John Anderson of the Bengal Artillery killed in action, on the 21st of February 1849, no man was more esteemed by the officers and men of his Regiment then he who sleeps in a soldier's grave dug on the field of battle in the hour of victory."

http://glosters.tripod.com/Gujerat.htm
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: PrueM on Tuesday 01 June 10 03:13 BST (UK): As the photo seems not to need any restoration (thanks to great research by Rootschatters :) ) I have moved it to the Armed Forces board, where it may be of more interest.

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: Parmesan on Tuesday 01 June 10 09:46 BST (UK): Wow! what a great story this is and what a fab epitaph. Must admit, brought a tear to my eye.
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: Lydart on Tuesday 01 June 10 11:55 BST (UK): Rootschat at its best !
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: Hello There on Tuesday 01 June 10 21:34 BST (UK): Great photo, Great imput and Great outcome :)

Look forward to any more photo's you can share, Shakeel :)
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: rupertchristie on Wednesday 27 November 19 01:22 GMT (UK): https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/cheffinsfineart/catalogue-id-srche10186/lot-5ff2e4df-af79-499c-a8b4-ab0400fcc515 Follow this link for a portrait of Captain John Anderson
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: barryd on Wednesday 27 November 19 04:40 GMT (UK): I have never said this in the years I have been a member of RootsChat.

Thank you Shakeel.
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: John915 on Wednesday 27 November 19 19:04 GMT (UK): Good evening

Quote from: SHAKEEL on Sunday 30 May 10 22:34 BST (UK)
old hippy it does mention the Bengal army but never mentions any of the Bengal Artillery regiments.if u go down u will find all the names of the regiment from east India company army and British army

I think this is an oversight, if you read the text it says that when the sikh artillery retreated they were chased by the Bengal Horse artillery and English and Indian cavalry.

John915
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: MaxD on Wednesday 27 November 19 20:12 GMT (UK): Outline of the history of the Bengal Horse Artillery here:
https://wiki.fibis.org/w/Bengal_Horse_Artillery
Captain John Anderson was in command of 4th Troop of the 3rd Brigade (Native (as they called them then) troops (briefly mentioned in the Fibis piece) stationed in Ferozepore He was the son of Alexander Andrews of Park Lane (source - contemporary newspapers).

This was one of the British Indian Army Horse Artillery regiments along with the Madras and the Bombay Horse Artillery that, following the Mutiny (British title)/War of Independence (Indian title) in 1857, were absorbed in to the British Army in India.

The present day successor battery of 3rd Brigade is L (Nery) Battery Royal Horse Artillery still proudly serving Her Majesty as part of 3rd Regiment Royal Horse Artillery stationed in Newcastle.

MaxD
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 27 November 19 20:23 GMT (UK): I know it's really interesting (I've sought out and read accounts of the action myself) but bear in mind that this thread is over 9 years old and the OP hasn't been on since 2010.
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: MaxD on Wednesday 27 November 19 20:45 GMT (UK): Always happy to give my old regiment (actually not 3rd but 1st) a puff to whoever is reading!

MaxD
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: barryd on Wednesday 27 November 19 22:19 GMT (UK): A different war. Always the same casualties.

If I should die, think only this of me:
That there's some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's, breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.
Rupert Brooke.

And not us forget those Soldiers from India and those from Pakistan who served/died in those wars too.
Title: Re: found a british soldier grave in my village in asianstan can any one find out who
Post by: John915 on Thursday 28 November 19 14:36 GMT (UK): Good afternoon,

During ww1 (in Brighton) the Royal Pavilion, the dome and the corn exchange were used as hospitals for Indian troops. Hindu and Sikh soldiers who died were cremated on the downs nr Patcham. In 1921 the Chattri memorial was built on the site. The RBL (Patcham branch) used to organise a large parade of standards at the annual service there. It seems to have fallen by the wayside now but I carried our branch standard there every year through the 90s.
There is still a memorial service every year with one or two standards present but the large array of RBL standards are no more.
I will have to see what can be done for 2021.

John915

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