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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: bevcal on Tuesday 25 May 10 11:15 BST (UK)
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: Hello,
I am trying to trace my ancestors. William M Manton who married Sarah Swain 25 Dec 1845 in Kidderminster, Worcester, England.
The Manton Family immigrated to Australia, on the ship "Marion Moore", departing LIverpool UK and arriving Melbourne 15th February 1853.
The Family consisted of William and Sarah and children Selina & John, (who I think were twins as per the 1850 UK census, both Selena & John's ages are given as 5) and Elizabeth. Alfred was born in Melbourne Victoria after they arrived.
William was sponsored for 12 months by Felton & Chadwick, Lower Murray for 12 months for 50 pounds..
Selina born 5 Jul 1846 in Kidderminster, Worcester, England married my Great grandfather Alfred James Dean in Gundagai NSW Australia, 19 Jan 1862 under the name of Selina Clark. ?? why. As she was only 15/16 years old at that time. We are assuming that she stated her age at 18 to get married. She gave her name on my grand parents marriage certificate as Selina Manton. She died at age 33, death certificate states from lung congestion, and is buried in Adelong NSW Australia after having 9 children.
My grandfather was only 9 days old.
The next time I can find any information is gundagai NSW where the family must have settled. Elizabeth and Alfred were married in Gundagai and Alfred died there. Elizabeth married Thomas Field in 1871 and Alfred married Louisa Fuller in 1875. Louisa Booby is the daughter of Alfred.
I am not sure what has happened to John but there is a possibility he was buried in Adelong.
I cannot find any reference for William and Sarah. I would be grateful if anyone can share any information which may lead to the resting place for this couple and also any information relating to John.
Thank you
Bev
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Hi,
I think she would have needed to be 21 to marry without her parents permission.
Do you have the marriage certificate or transcription, thatat would give you witnesses and whoever gave permission for her to marry.
The name Clark at Tumut/Adelong has me interested as I am missing some Clark's from that area.
Have you been able to find any cemetery records from Adelong?
mum mum
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Hi ,
In 1871 there a Alfred Field married a Elizabeth Manton in Gundagia N.S.W. reg*2386 in the year 1871
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HI Bevcal
If you can give exact dates - i.e. day and month plus the year for the deaths and marriages you have I'd be happy to have a hunt in the Adelong and Gundagai papers for any mentions. Some local papers hve good obits and wedding descriptions. They are filmed in date order though so it's too hard to go through a whole year's worth.
Probably won't get to the library till later in the week.
Cheers, Judith
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Hi Bev,
Not answering your question, but just a bit about the children and ages.
Marian Moore, 1853
William MANTON, 29, WEAVER
Sarah MANTON, 28
Selina MANTON, 6
John MANTON, 3
Elizabeth MANTON, 2
Plus a male infant born onboard (this would be Alfred?)
On the 1851 census, John's age was mistakenly written in the female column as 5m (months), and the 5 was crossed out and moved to the male column.
Debra
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Thanks that is great to know as I did find conflicting ages from other researches.
Bev
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Judith if you could send me an email I will forward a report on the family so you can see all the info I have.
Cheers
Bev
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Hi
I am doing some research for a friend. Her relative was Eliza Elvira ROOTS who married Arthur MANTON and hod two sons Eric and Charles. Would be interested in any further information you are happy to share.
cheers
Deem
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If your friend would like to email me on (*) I will share what I have.
cheers
Bev
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Hi,
NSW Landholders Directory 1900
Adelong
Manton Sarah Jane, Black Creek
Gerry
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The next time I can find any information is Gundagia NSW where the family must have settled.
Hi Bev,
Just a small clarification, with the name Gundagai, (the a and i around the other way) pronounced gun-da-guy. An unusual name, probably of aboriginal derivation.
Cheers,
Alison :)
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Yes I know Just a typo. Sorry
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Sorry Bev,
I thought as it had been repeated a few times, you were unaware.
Alison (at my pedantic best) :(
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Bev,
I am looking for info about a John Manton who married into my Seary family in 1845.
Not your John Manton obviously but I found this which may help you:
iii. Martha SUTTON was born 1869 in Romford, Essex, England, and died 22 Aug 1912 in Adelong, NSW. She married John MANTON 1902 in Tumut, NSW, son of William MANTON and Sarah SWAIN. He was born 1849 in Kidderminster, Worcester, England, and died 3 Apr 1927 in Adelong, NSW.
The link to this page is:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db=monaropioneers&id=I195326
Felicity
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Thanks Felicity.
Your information is correct.
I have, since first posting this, found out a lot of information on the Manton family. It has been an interesting "ride".
Thanks again
Bev
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Hi Bev,
I realise your OP was quite some time ago, and your "ride" has been interesting ;D
I noticed that on the 1870 NSW Electoral Roll for The Murrumbidgee there's a John MANTON, resident of Wagga. I realise that Adelong's electorate was The Tumut, however Manton is not among the "Top of the Pops" list of popular surnames... and I have not found any with that surname listed for The Tumut in either 1870 or 1878.
In 1878 for The Murrumbidgee NSW ER there's several surnamed MANTON:
John Adolphus, freeholder at Wagga
John Adolphus, leaseholder at Wagga
Frederick, residence at Kimo (in Police district of Gundagai which extended across parts of both The Murrumbidgee and The Tumut electorates).
I noticed that your OP indicates that you are not sure what has happened to John but there is a possibility he was buried in Adelong
Cheers, JM
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Sorry, I thought you said you had no connection to this Manton family.
As far as I am aware no other relatives of this family immigrated to Australia.
My John is buried in Adelong. He had three siblings, Selina, my G Grandmother, also buried Adelong & Elizabeth who were born in Kidderminster England and Alfred who was born on route to Australia and his birth is registered in Melbourne. This family grew up in Gundagai NSW.
Family Group Sheet for: Page 1 of 2
MANTON William M and SWAIN [MANTON] Sarah
Husband MANTON William M
Birth Apr. 19, 1824 Kidderminster, Worcestershire England UK
Education Read and write
Nationality England
Occupation Carpet Weaver, Miner, Labourer
Marriage1 Dec. 25, 1845 Kidderminster, Worcester, England
Immigration Feb. 15, 1853 Port of Melbourne
Unassisted passage on board the ship "Marion Moore"
Religion Anglican
Death Dec. 6, 1882 Walgatt NSW Australia
Inflammation Of Bowels - Length
Of Illness 5 weeks.
Parents MANTON Thomas2 and TIERS. [MANTON] Sarah
Wife SWAIN [MANTON] Sarah
Birth Aug. 11, 1824 Kidderminster, Worcestershire England UK
Education Read and write
Nationality England
Immigration Feb. 15, 1853 Port of Melbourne
Unassisted passage on board the ship "Marion Moore"
Religion Anglican
Death Apr. 2, 1870 Jones' Creek Gundagai NSW Australia
Burial Apr. 4, 1870 The Cemetery Nrth Gundagai NSW Australia
Parents SWAIN Richard and DAVIES [SWAIN] Catherine
Children
1 MANTON [DEAN] Selina
Gender Female
Birth3 Jul. 5, 1846 Kidderminster, Worcestershire England UK
Education Read and write
Nationality England
Occupation House Servant
Immigration Feb. 15, 1853 Port of Melbourne
Unassisted passage on board the ship "Marion Moore"
Religion Anglican
Marriage Jan. 19, 1862 Gundagai NSW Australia
Married under the name Selina Clarke
Husband DEAN Alfred James
Marriage Jan. 19, 1862 Gundagia NSW Australia
Witnesses John Gliddon and Deborah Smart
Death Oct. 13, 1879 Adelong Creek Adelong NSW Australia
Died 9 days after son Stephen Arthur was born
Burial Adelong Cemetery NSW Australia -Unmarked Grave
2 MANTON John (Jack)
Gender Male
Birth Apr. 4, 1849 Kidderminster, Worcestershire England UK
Nationality England
Immigration Feb. 15, 1853 Port of Melbourne
Unassisted passage on board the ship "Marion Moore"
Religion Anglican
a)Wife COLEMAN [MANTON] Elizabeth
Marriage 1872 Picton NSW Australia
b)Wife SUTTON [MANTON] Martha
Marriage 1902 Tumut, NSW Australia
Death Apr. 3, 1927 Adelong NSW Australia
Unmarked Grave
Burial Adelong Cemetery NSW Australia
1,2,3FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
Family Group Sheet for: Page 2 of 2
MANTON William M and SWAIN [MANTON] Sarah
3 MANTON [FIELD] Elizabeth
Gender Female
Birth Oct. 24, 1850 York St, Borough, Kidderminster, Worcestershire England UK
birth Certificate states" York Street, Borough"
Nationality England
Immigration Feb. 15, 1853 Port of Melbourne
Unassisted passage - on board the ship "Marion Moore"
Religion Anglican
Husband FIELD Alfred Thomas
Marriage Jul. 3, 1871 St John's Church Gundagia NSW Australia
Death May 18, 1885 Junee Junction NSW Australia
Death registered Loftus - Junee Junction was renamed for a short period after the then Governor
Burial May 19, 1885 Church of England, Cemetery Junee Junction.
4 MANTON Alfred
Gender Male
Birth4 1853 Born on board Marion Moore on maiden voyage from Liverpool to Melbourne. Reg no
17975 - C of E St James, Melbourne
As per Public Record Of Victoria Register of Assisted British Immigrants
Alfred was born at sea and birth registered on arrival in Melbourne Victoria
Baptism 1853 St James Church, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
On Arrival Melbourne Australia
Nationality Australia
Occupation Labourer
Religion Anglican
Wife FULLER [MANTON] Louisa
Marriage Dec. 13, 1875 St John's C of E Gundagai NSW Australia
Electoral Roll 1930 Back Station Creek Gundagai NSW
Death Jun. 25, 1932 Gundagai, NSW, Australia
Burial Jun. 26, 1932 Anglican Section North Gundagai Cemetery NSW Australia.
Not sure who the Wagga Mantons are. I have not got an John Adolphus Manton in my tree.
Sorry I couldn't help you more.
cheers
Bev
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Hi Bev,
My gg grandmother was Charlotte Booby whose brother Arthur Booby married Louisa Manton I believe. I have an old photo we were told was of Louisa Manton (and possibly Louisa Fuller). Let me know if you'd like a copy I'll happily send one.
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Hello gpixie,
Yes I would love the photo of Louisa Manton. Email bev.cal@hotmail.com
That would be super. Thank you
Bev
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Hi Bev,
I have just noticed your Manton connection to mine, though my gg grandfather was from William Manton and his second wife Eliza in the Walgett NSW area. It took me a while to work out there were 2 families.
I also note William named his second lot of children after his first children with Sarah. (Elizabeth, Selina, John and Alfred). It made the task a bit complicated!
Would love to email with you. I'm in Kent England - Hoping to visit Kidderminster later this year
Ann