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Hi everyone
If any one is going to liverpool record office could you possibly do a look up for me please for the following marriage, to see if i can progress any further.
James Critchley married Elizabeth Wright 02nd May 1824 St Peters Church
Would like to know if their parents were witnesses.
Thanking you in advance
Jan :)
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Jan.
The marriage register gives the following info:
James CRITCHLEY, of Liverpool (Joiner) & Elizabeth WRIGHT, Spinster married (by Banns) on the 2nd May 1824
By BULMER (Curate)
In the Presence of: William MAYBRICK & Robert JOHNSON. (these Gentlemen were witnesses for most the marriages listed, probably Profession/Paid Witnesses).
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Hi Pe, thanks, remember me, been quite a while, just starting up again after a bit of a break, have you got any further with the family yet....and just while Im here wondered if you have seen this entry for the 1841 census Duffy although Edward isnt a book binder but they lived in the right place I think... any relation to James?????
1841 Eldon Pl st Martin
Edward Duffy 50 (1791) docker Ireland
Elizabeth 45 reland
John 21 l'pool
Sarah 19 Lpool
Edward 15 L'pool
William 13 Lpool
Elizabeth 9 Lpool
Joseph 11 Lpool
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Jan.
Hi Jan.
Yes, I remember You, I hav'nt got the 1841 Census entry for Edward.
James DUFFY (Bn C1816, Liverpool) was the son of Edward & Elizabeth, He married Jane OWENS (Bn C1817, Llanbeblog, Nth Wales) on 13th Feb 1838 at St Peters.
I have not got any more info, till I read your reply I did'nt know James Siblings names?
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Hi cousin Pe :)
Here is the marriage entry from the opc site for James and Jane
Marriage: 13 Feb 1838 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Duffey - (X), Full age Boiler Maker Bachelor of Eldon St
Jane Owens - (X), Minor Spinster of Carlton St
Groom's Father: Edward Duffey, Book Binder
Bride's Father: Owen Owens, Mariner
Witness: Robert Daley, (X); Mary Owens, (X)
Married by Banns by: Oliver Ormerod A M Curate
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1838, Page 215, Entry 430
Source: LDS Film 93920
Note James is iving in Eldon St and the 1841 census got Edward and Elizabeth Duffy living at Eldon Place....(HO107/564/13/26/38 don't know if this is the right number, you will have to check)
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Cousin Jan.
Yes you have the right number for Edwards 1841 Census entry (HO 107/564-13, ED26, Folio 38, Page 20), I think it is ELDON Street (not Eldon Place)
James, Jane & Family can be found at (on same page Janes Parents & Siblings):
HO107/564-2, ED 39, Folio 11, Page 14, Balmer Place, Carlton Street
Owen OWENS, 45Yrs old, Rigger, Bn Not in County
Eleanor OWENS, 45Yrs old, , Bn Not in County
Robert OWENS, 14Yrs old, Apprentice Boilermaker, Bn In County
Elizabeth OWENS, 12Yrs old, Bn In County
James DUFFY, 25Yrs old, Boilermaker, Bn In County
Jane DUFFY, 20Yrs old, Bn Not in County
Elizabeth DUFFY, 2Yrs old, Bn In County
Robert DUFFY, 1Yr old, Bn In County
Jane OWENS (James DUFFYs wife) was born in Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, North Wales @1817, she was Christened on 27th December 1818 at Llanbeblig Church
Her Parents Owen OWENS & Eleanor MORGAN were married on 5th July 1815 at Llanbeblig Church
I have a few threads going which hold further info on the Owens & Morgan Families:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,221167.msg1179960/topicseen.html#msg1179960
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,207482.msg1071198/topicseen.html#msg1071198
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Cousin Jan.
Re: the 1841 Census that You posted, John DUFFY (Bn C1820) was listed on the Census as 'Not Born in County'.
His parents were listed as born Ireland, all their children (apart from John) were listed as 'Born In County'.
Also, somewhere in my searches I found Edward DUFFY listed as a 'Dockgateman', which was a job usually given to workers who were either of retiring age or no longer able to do their former job (through Ill Health or Infirmity).
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Hi
I am new to this site, but noticed that you made reference to my direct ancestor John Duffy, son of Edward and Elizabeth, on the 1841 Census.
He was actually born in USA, but I can't find any record of the family arriving in Liverpool, which must have been between 1820 when John was born and 1823 when his sister Sarah was born. Any clues would be greatly appreciated.
brinjac
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Brinjac.
Welcome to RootsChat!
I have just printed the 1841 Census for Edward, Elizabeth & Family and noticed that John was also a Boilermaker (same as My Maternal Ancestor James).
It always makes me smile when I find an Ancestor who had a Trade similar/related to Mine (I was a Plater/Welder).
I have found a few Boilermakers & Blacksmiths on both sides of my Family!
P.S.
Will PM You later!
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Pegassus
I have carried out a comprehensive study of the descendants of JOHN DUFFY and have Census records 1841-1911.
I should be interested to know where you fit into the DUFFY tree.
brinjac
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Brian.
My Mothers Parents were:
William James WRIGHT & Mary Elizabeth EDWARDS
Mary Elizabeth EDWARDS Parents:
John EDWARDS & Sarah Ellen CRITCHLEY
Sarah Ellen CRITCHLEYs Parents:
James CRITCHLEY & Elizabeth DUFFY
Elizabeth DUFFYs was the Firstborn of:
James DUFFY & Jane OWENS
James DUFFY was the Firstborn( I think) of:
Edward & Elizabeth DUFFY (Both Born Ireland)
Children of Edward & Elizabeth:
James Born C1816, Liverpool
John Born C1820, ?(on 1841 Census= Not Born in County)
Sarah Born C1822, Liverpool
Edward Born C1826, Liverpool
William Born C1828, Liverpool
Joseph Born C1830, Liverpool
Elizabeth Born C1832, Liverpool
I will p.m. My email address so that we can share further Info!
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Peter
I am the eldest son of JOHN DUFFY,
who was the eldest son of JOHN JAMES DUFFY,
who was the eldest son of JOSEPH DUFFY,
who was the eldest son of JOHN DUFFY,
who, I thought, was the eldest son of EDWARD DUFFY.
Now you've gone and spoiled it. :)
It appears that EDWARD and ELIZABETH came from Ireland to Liverpool, then sailed to America, where John was born, then sailed back to Liverpool, where the rest of the family were born.
By 1851, apart from JAMES and JOHN, the family have disappeared once more.
Brian
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Hello,
I'm relatively new to this, but I'm looking for any info for Edward Duffy & Elizabeth Duffy (nee Martin?). I'm trying to trace my Irish roots and would really love to find out where in Ireland they were from, or at least a ballpark.
My mother is Elizabeth Duffy (maiden name)
->daughter of Robert J. Duffy (b 1917)
->son of Joseph John Duffy (b 1886)
->son of James E Duffy (b 1865)
->son of Joseph J Duffy (b 1830)
->son of Edward Duffy (b 1791)
Any information anybody could provide to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello brinjac, not sure if this info. is helpful but around 1849 Cholera was very prevelant around Liverpool, Eldon St. being I think around Toxteth Park, oneof the worse areas...See Liverpool Journal November 14th 1849 "A walk through the cholera districts of Liverpool" I am also a Duffy maybe even related as Eldon St. is also where Thomas Duffy 1801 Ireland and Mary with their children lived...There are a few Duffys around Toxteth Park and I feel sure they perhaps are all related...still trying to find that out. My Duffys cam to Liverpool around th 1840's (potato famine) so times were though for these immigrant families....Thomas seemed to do a few things, coal dealer and marine store....maybe check burials for T.P around the 1849's...I am at last going to go to Liverpool and Ireland and see if I can find out anymore on my Duffy clan...best of luck Bren from New Zealand
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Bren from NZ
Welcome to the forum. On a point of geography, Eldon Street is not Toxteth Park area, but further north between Vauxhall Road and Scotland Road, in what is now referred to as Vauxhall. Not the best of areas, but much rebuilt and improved today.
A
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Hi all. I am new to this board, but have been occasionally tracing my roots and have made some progress. My late father was Edward Duffy. I traced his father (John) right back to the John Duffy born America. His father and mother being Edward Duffy born Ireland 1791 and his wife Elizabeth born about 5 years later also in Ireland. They lived in Eldon Street Liverpool. The John Duffy born America became a boilermaker. He moved to Birkenhead with his wife Ellen (nee Jackson). They lived in Carpenters Row with their family. His son John (my great grandfather) was also a boiler maker, He passed the trade on to his son John Duffy who married Mary Mullen. They were my grandfather, John Duffy's parents. John (my grandfather), born in Holt terrace Birkenhead married Catherine Sullivan. They had 8 surviving children and lived in Neston Street, Birkenhead. Their house was destroyed during the blitz.
Edward Duffy born in Ireland 1791 would appear to have been a draper. In 1851 one of their children, Joseph born 1830 emigrated to New York and he too had a family. I am beginning to wonder if John and Elizabeth went to join him or perhaps went back to Ireland. But I doubt it.
Obviously there are folk posting on this thread who are from the same bloodline as yours truly. So i would be interested in hearing from any of you. Thanks for reading this.
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Hi
I am sure we are all related in some way. I am also directly descended from John Duffy and Ellen Jackson. Their son Joseph is my great grandfather. He married Elizabeth McCormick and their eldest son John James is my grandfather.
I have done considerable research into this Duffy family and have loads of information to share.
My email address is (*) if you want to get in touch.
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Hi
I am sure we are all related in some way. I am also directly descended from John Duffy and Ellen Jackson. Their son Joseph is my great grandfather. He married Elizabeth McCormick and their eldest son John James is my grandfather.
I have done considerable research into this Duffy family and have loads of information to share.
My email address is (*) if you want to get in touch.
Wow, that was quick Brian and Jacqui. It's a bit late now, so i will be in touch tomorrow. Hopefully you might be able to solve a mystery for me that has been a mystery in my father's family for a hundred years. Thanks for replying so quickly.
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Hello
After a number of years I am starting to look into my family history again on the Duffy/Owens side, and I'm a bit late onto this thread !
My Gt grandmother was Sarah Ellen McDonald
Her mother was Sarah Duffy B1847 Liverpool
Her mother was Jane Owens and Father James Duffy
Jane Owens mother was Eleanor Morgan and father Owen Owens
James Duffy was the eldest child of Elizabeth Martin ? and Edward Duffy
Ive not been able to find a marriage for Elizabeth and Edward Duffy, so presumably would have been Ireland. There is a death registered in 1842 of a Edward Duffy Liverpool, and cannot trace him on the 1851 census
would love to hear from anyone who has got any further info on the Duffys and Owens
Thanks