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Title: Rudd family!
Post by: pckl on Saturday 22 May 10 14:34 BST (UK)
My great-great-great grandfather was John Glover Rudd. b. 1815, St. Bees.  His siblings are:

Thomas. b.1813
Glover. b. 1818
Joseph. b. 1821
Isaac. b. 1833


I have their parents as William Rudd and Mary Harrison.

I would love to have any info on them such as census records. etc.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: gortonboy on Saturday 22 May 10 14:48 BST (UK)
this could be joseph.. ;)

1851 census---  N E, Main Street 
 
HO107      Piece: 2437      Folio:  19      Page:  6         
 
RUDD, Joseph Head Married  M 32 1819 Husband Man
 St Bees V
Cumberland
RUDD, Sarah Wife Married  F 26 1825
 Egremont
Cumberland
RUDD, Anthony Wm Son   M 2 1849
 Liverpool
Lancashire
STEELE, Sarah Grand Mother Widow  F 68 1783 Annuitant
 Egremont
Cumberland


 
 
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: gortonboy on Saturday 22 May 10 14:51 BST (UK)
1841 census ---- Wholass, St Bee, Hensingham 
 
 HO107      Piece: 158      Book/Folio:  6/8      Page:  10         
     
RUDD, William   M 50 1791  Cumberland
RUDD, Mary   F 40 1801  Cumberland
RUDD, Jane   F 10 1831  Cumberland
RUDD, Isaac   M 8 1833  Cumberland


 
 
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: gortonboy on Saturday 22 May 10 15:10 BST (UK)
note that the son Anthony is now a stepson....his surname may help in finding the marriage of his parents,,,but having looked at the original scan,,his surname may be eldean,,or even something else...maybe other rootschatters could give  their opinion.

1861 census --- Gutterby, Egremont 
 
RG09      Piece: 3952      Folio:  73      Page:  31         

RUDD, Joseph Head Married  M 40 1821 Iron Miner
 Hensingham
Cumberland
RUDD, Sarah Wife Married  F 35 1826
 Egremont
Cumberland
ELDEEN, Anthony Stepson   M 12 1849 Scholar
 Liverpool
Lancashire
RUDD, Jane Daughter   F 6 1855 Scholar
 Egremont
Cumberland
RUDD, William Son   M 5 1856
 Egremont
Cumberland


 
 
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: gortonboy on Saturday 22 May 10 15:16 BST (UK)
1871 census --  Gutterby, Egremont 
 
RG10      Piece: 5263      Folio:  11      Page:  15         
   
RUDD, Joseph Head   M 47 1824  Cumberland
RUDD, Sarah Wife   F 43 1828  Cumberland
RUDD, William Son   M 14 1857  Cumberland
RUDD, Isaac Son   M 10 1861  Cumberland
RUDD, Mary Daughter   F 7 1864  Cumberland
RUDD, Henry Son   M 5 1866  Cumberland
RUDD, Ruth Daughter   F 1 1870  Cumberland

MCCLELLAN, Anthony Lodger   M 22 1849  Lancashire


 
 
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: gortonboy on Saturday 22 May 10 15:19 BST (UK)
mystery solved....he was anthony mcClellan  ;D

Marriages Sep 1850     
McClellan  Sarah     Whitehaven  25 145   
Rudd  Joseph     Whitehaven  25 145
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 23 May 10 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi Gortonboy,

You have been a busy bee.  Small contribution Joseph Rudd was buried at Egremont Cemetery 10/7/1890. Age 68. Section F Uncon 115 and Sarah 17/3/1892. Age 64 years. F Uncon 145 Both had lived at Smithfield.  :(
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 23 May 10 16:26 BST (UK)
Isaac Rudd born 30 June 1833 is also buried at Egremont Cemetery.
Section H Con Grave 358 16th Oct 1870.  :(
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: hbowes on Monday 23 August 10 05:08 BST (UK)
Isaac RUDD was both my Great (Daughter married Henry BOWES) and Great Great (daughter married Edward PULLIN).  Does anyone know what he died from at 37? Or the surname of his wife Esther, born at Gosforth.  Esther married Christopher TYSON after Isaac's death
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: hbowes on Monday 23 August 10 05:12 BST (UK)
Isaac Rudds parents were William RUDD and Mary CASTLEHOW
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: sillgen on Monday 23 August 10 08:30 BST (UK)
Hi hbowes and welcome to rootchat
pckl has been online many times since this was originally posted but has never acknowledged the work done on his/her behalf here.  Maybe they are not getting notification of a reply.   If they still do not respond you can make contact by sending a personal message to them.  Click on the green scroll under their name.
Regards
Andrea
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: hbowes on Tuesday 28 September 10 01:54 BST (UK)
The Reference to "Wholass" in the 1841 census is a "Wall House" with a Cumbrian accent!! 
Isaac Rudd, b 1833, died at Main St, Egremont, 13th October 1870, the cause of death being "an aneurism of the abdominal aorta".  He was an Iron ore miner.
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: Burnthwaite on Friday 01 October 10 16:53 BST (UK)

Hi,

The Rudd children mentioned in this post were born at Whole house in the Hensingham chapelry of the Parish of St.Bees.

It would appear that William & Mary moved on to Haile [1823] and then Arlecdon - Ratten row [1824 - 1828] where they seem to have had more children.

It would also seem that William was not born in the immediate surrounding areas.

Nev.
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: hbowes on Saturday 02 October 10 04:02 BST (UK)
Thanks I'll check that out. In subsiquent census returns, the residence is named as Wall House.

Henry
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: pckl on Friday 13 April 12 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi all.

Whilst googling different family names I came across my own posting...

I don't seem to have got notifications for this thread which is quite unusual as I've had no problems before.

hbowes, after some looking into the family I thought that maybe the children born to William and Mary in the 1820s/30s were maybe a different generation possibly their son's children, rather than theirs. Or is Mary Castlehow, William Rudd Snr's second wife?

If I'm right, my ancestor's (John Glover Rudd) mother was Mary Glover, which would obviously make sense. The thing that threw me off was the marriage between William Rudd and Mary Harrison. If my research is correct, Mary Glover was married to Thomas Harrison before marrying William Rudd.

Is this what you have?

I am so sorry I have not seen your postings before, and I really hope you're still around on this site.

Thank you, pckl  :)
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: blue nose on Wednesday 09 May 12 19:55 BST (UK)
Hi i just notice your post about the rudd family. My 2x great grandfather was joseph rudd born abt 1821/22. John glover rudd if i am right would be brother or step brother to Joseph. I have Joseph Father has William Born 1791 and Mother Mary Harrison b:1800/01. Could shed any light on this. It would be great if could echange inform because i am a little bit stuck at the moment

Bluenose ;D
Title: Re: Rudd family!
Post by: pckl on Wednesday 09 May 12 23:20 BST (UK)
Hi bluenose, looks like we're relatives!

I don't know much about William, but I do have some things on Mary.

Mary was a Glover born in 1784 to Alexander Glover and Elizabeth Benn.

Mary was first married to Thomas Harrison in 1804, who died not long after their marriage. In 1809 she married William Rudd. I'm not sure if Thomas Harrison and Mary had any children, so that's something to check out!

pckl