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Title: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: peterwestpest on Saturday 22 May 10 00:14 BST (UK)
HI, I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO E.M DANIEL AND PARTNERS WERE.SOMETIMES SPELT DANNIEL/S.COULD  BE A VARIANT OF McDANNIELL. ON A DOCUMENT OF LAND OWNERS OF ONE ACRE OR MORE FROM 1870 THEY OWNED 1252 ACRES IN COUNTY WEXFORD,IRELAND. ON THIS SAME DOCUMENT THE ADDRESS IS LISTED AS CHELTENHAM,ENGLAND.I N GRIFFITHS VALUATION OF IRELAND 1853 ,THEY OWNED MANY OF THE TOWNLANDS IN MAYGLASS,COUNTY WEXFORD . ON  THE  1870 DOCUMENT THE NAME IS E.M DANIEL,IN GRIFFITHS ITS SPELT DANNIEL , DANNIELS, DANNIELL,AND DANNIELLS. NO OTHER INFO ON WHERE IN CHELTENHAM THEY WERE FROM ANY INFO ON THIS PERSON/S  MUCH APPRECIATED THANKS.PETER.

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Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL
Post by: Morganllan on Saturday 22 May 10 01:57 BST (UK)
I found a birth registered in the Asiatic Journal and Monthly Register for British and Foreign India, China, and Australasia Volume VII Jan-Apr 1832 (Page 68)

(October) 19th in Cadogan-place, the lady of Capt. E.M. Daniels, Hon. Company's Service, of a daughter.

 :)

Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: Morganllan on Saturday 22 May 10 23:48 BST (UK)
Hello

If Captain E M Daniels is the person you are seeking, his son was killed during the Indian Mutiny on 27th June 1857.

2nd Bengal Light Cavalry
Memorial at All Souls Church, Cawnpore - "To the glory of God and in memory of more than a thousand Christian people, who met their deaths hard by, between 6th June & 15th July 1857. These tablets are placed in this the Memorial Church. All Souls Cawnpore by the Government N.W.P.
2nd Light Cavalry - Major E. Vibart. Capt E.J. Seppings, Wife and Children. Capt R.U. & Mrs Jenkins. Lieut R.O. Quin. Lieut C.W. Quin. Lieut J.H. Harrison. Lieut W.J. Manderson. Lieut F.S.M Wren. Lieut M.G. Daniell. Lieut M. Balfour. Cornet W.A. Stirling. Surgn. W.R. & Mrs Boyes. Vety. Surgn. E.G. Chalwin & Wife. Ridg. Mr. D. Walsh, Wife & Children. Sergt. Major H. Cladwell. Qr. Mr. Sergt. F. & Mrs Tress. Cornet C. Mainwaring 6th L.C. Lieut A.J. Boulton, 7th L.C."

Lieutenant Murray George Daniell - murdered by mutineers at Cawnpore - 27th June 1857
Aged 39. Third son of Capt. E.M. Daniell, HEICS, of Gloucester Square, Hyde Park, London.

*HEICS   Honourable East India Company Service (or Honourable East India Company Ship)

I haven't found a Cheltenham connection yet but will keep looking.
Best Wishes
Morgan
Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: Morganllan on Sunday 23 May 10 00:45 BST (UK)
Hello

Edward Maxwell Danniel born 19th Feb 1796 Marylebone London
the son of James Evance Danniel born 17th June 1773 in India and Eliza Martha Hodges born 1776

Edward married Emma Isabella Ferrers 21st July 1825 in Westminster (Emma Danniel was 78 and widowed at time of 1881 census so Edward had died by then).

James Evance Danniel's mother Lucy Butler was born in Waterford, Ireland 8th April 1740. So there is an Irish connection although a different County from same part.

On 19th September 1821 Edward was appointed Commander of the "Duchess of Atholl".

Do you think this could be the E M Danniel you are looking for?

Best Wishes
Morgan
Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: Morganllan on Sunday 23 May 10 01:13 BST (UK)

From Slaters Commercial Directory, 1858-1859:
Daniel Capt. John E., 3 Pittville terrace Cheltenham
Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: peterwestpest on Sunday 23 May 10 01:36 BST (UK)
THANKS MORGAN, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THIS GUY FOR AGES NOW,WITH VERY LITTLE SUCCESS. IM ALMOST SURE ITS THE  RIGHT GUY, BUT HAVE VERY LITTLE INFO ON HIM.ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN DIG UP ON HIM WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED ,THANKS PETER.
Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: Morganllan on Sunday 23 May 10 02:04 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
it probably is the right family as this site gives E M Daniel, M G Daniel (deceased) ,and Ludford Daniel (deceasd) as Landowners. We know that EM's son MG had died in 1857 so there is a link.

http://www.failteromhat.com/lo1876/wexford_i.htm

but I think EM died in 1862.

Best Wishes
Morgan
Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: Morganllan on Sunday 23 May 10 02:50 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Lucy was the daughter of Peregrine Butler, and here are extracts from the Lismore Castle Papers (National Library of Ireland) which mention Peregrine Butler:

MS 43,099/ 7
Copy grant in perpetuity from John Villiers, 5th Earl of Grandison to Peregrine Butler of the lands of Tyrnore and ‘Clancy’s Lot’, Co. Waterford (17 Jun 1747), and grant (and copies) from Sir William Heathcote to Richard, 4th Earl of Cork and Burlington of mines etc. in the Western District and release from the Earl to Sir William of the Western District purchase money and mutual covenants to produce deeds (10 Jun 1749), 4 items
1749, 1829 & 1858

MS 44,011
Statement by way of case for notarial valuation and opinion of Samuel Page, calculation of renewable fines, memorandum as to representatives of Peregrine Butler, and draft grant in perpetuity, 5 items
1859 & n.d.

MS 44,015/ 2
Powers of attorney to Mrs. Francis Power to execute renewals (18 Oct 1793 & 25 Oct 1810), her affidavit verifiying her authority to execute deeds and act as general agent for the representatives of Peregrine Butler (3 Mar 1819), and copy and extract from her letter to William Jenkins (15 Oct 1818), 3 items
1793-1819

Peregrine was born around 1710 and died around 1761 Dungarvan. In his will of June 1762 he left his estate to his wife Elizabeth (nee Greene).

Best Wishes
Morgan
Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: Kiwicol on Sunday 11 September 11 05:54 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
Peregrine Butler now seems to have been born in Yorkshire
The Daniells had a long connection with the Honourable East India Company
Title: Re: DANIEL/DANNIEL/DANNIELL Cheltenham
Post by: Lindo on Wednesday 16 May 12 07:34 BST (UK)
Hi
I wondered if the man you were looking for could be Edward Maxwell Daniells 1798 - 1862