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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Just Kia on Wednesday 19 May 10 19:45 BST (UK)
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Is there anywhere to search this in full as Anc only has what it terms "1890 United States Federal Census Fragment".
I think the people I'm seeking are either in Illinois or Missouri, so if there is a searchable census for those two states that will probably do.
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Most of the USA 1890 Census was destroyed by fire and only fragments remain unfortunately. ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890_United_States_Census
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Thanks, dettori.
They'll stay missing on that one then.
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Have you tried looking for them on the 1880 or 1900 US census?
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Have you tried looking for them on the 1880 or 1900 US census?
Or city directories
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Yes that is an idea. What are the surnames Kia?
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I don't know about city directories - are they searchable online?
I've got the family in 1900 and all but one in 1880.
It's my Wimbush's.
In 1880 John and his wife Julia, their children Lizzie, John and Maud are with John's brother, Thomas, his wife Amelia and son, Henry in Chicago, Illinois.
John and Julia's son, Ambrose (aka Frank) isn't with them.
In 1900 Ambrose is in Centralia, Illinois, with his first wife, Dora, and children Florence and Bertha (born Missouri).
Ambrose states he came to the US in 1881. I'm not sure if that's a case of being forgetful or if he really did come the year after his parents for some reason - in which case he probably managed to miss the 1880 US census and the 1881 UK census!
In 1910 he is in St Louis, Missouri with his widow's family and his children. 1920 & 1930 he is also in St Louis having married his widow's sister and with more children.
Ambrose was born 1871 in Witney, Oxfordshire, although his year of birth is inconsistent on the census returns.
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Hi
Oh I was helping you with your Wimbush's the other day. Are these direct ancestors or just ancestor siblings?
I think city directories give a name and address but I am not sure if they are searchable online.
Ben
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Any chance they were in Chicago? Ancestry has voter registrations there for 1888, 1890 and 1892.
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There are Chicago city directories, including 1885 & 1892, available here: http://www.chicagoancestors.org/#tab-tools
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These ones are ancestor siblings, Ben
I'm spending more time on my Wimbush's than my direct lines at the moment - leaving all those brickwalls to rest for a couple weeks, see if they magically fall down when I next have a poke at them ;D
Erato, there's defintely some chance. Will try to seek out the voter regsistrations and have a look through - thanks for the idea.
Will have a look at the link, Shelly, thanks.
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Also, FamilySearch has Cook County [Chicago] births [1871-1915], deaths [1878-1922], and marriages [1871-1920].
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
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I think some American voter registrations give occupation
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Footnote.com has a number of directories for St. Louis. It's a subscription site, but you can see a portion of the entry without subscribing if you use their "Quick Look" feature. It appears that there's a Frank A. Wimbush in the 1893 & 1896 directories, an A. Frank Wimbush in 1898 directory, and Ambrose F. Wimbush in 1899, 1902, & 1906. There are also other possible entries for John & Thomas Wimbush, and other later years for Ambrose. http://www.footnote.com/documents/100521904/city_directories_st_louis/
You also might want to check the following databases for Missouri/St. Louis, which seem to have possible matches to this family -
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/birthdeath/default.asp
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/#search
http://www.slpl.org/slpl/gateways/article240117800.asp
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Only small fragments of the 1890 US census survive. The returns for about 6000 people out of a population of about 75 million at the time survive.
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Thank you for all your help.
I've found them on the links shelly gave, so they were in St Louis rather than Chicago in the mid 1890s.
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City directories are a good substitute to the census.
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Hello,
My name is Thomas Barry Wimbush, my father is (*) and my grandfather was Ambrose. Our family came from Chicago and St. Lois. What can I tell you to help you in your search.
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Hi Thomas,
Welcome to Rootschat and thank you so much for posting here.
As my grandmother was a WIBUSH by birth I began a one-name study as I believe (and aim to prove one way or another) that there is one origin for the name. I'm fairly certain that the ealry ancestors came from Lincolnshire (I have them there as early as mid 1300s), although as yet I do not connect all branches to one common ancestor.
On your line the latest generation I have is Ambrose S WIMBUSH born c1908 in Missouri; and his siblings Florence, Bertha, Pearl and Mildred.
Through Ambrose Frank (1871 Witney, Oxfordshire) -> John T(homas?) (1845 Tingewick, Buckinghamshire) -> Thomas (1817 Great Bourton, Oxfordshire) -> Benjamin (1789 Bourton, Oxfordshire) -> Thomas (1740 Culworth, Northamptonshire) along with their spouses and siblings.
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tbkwimbush - just saw your post - justkia's message gives your line - you are related to our wimbush line - profile of the late Mary Wimbush at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wimbush and plenty of photos online - we have a photo of your ancestor Thomas sitting as an old man sitting in a chair - another nice photo of him and his family is posted at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tingewick/wimbush.html
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Here is Thomas: