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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: sallysmum on Wednesday 19 May 10 13:24 BST (UK)
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Hi
I was wondering if anyone is tracing the Stuart/Stewart family of Gateshead circa 1846. I am unable to find my gt grandfather William Stuart who supposedly was born about that time in Gateshead. His father was allegedly John Stuart, a bottle blower.
This family was the subject of an unsuccessful scavenger hunt www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,353009.0.html
I have posted here with the hope that someone might be researching this family. As you will see from reading the hunt, I have searched to BMD to no avail
sallysmum
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In Oakwellgate Gateshead in the 1851 census there is John Stewart b Scotland aged 32 his wife Isabella b Gateshead aged 31 with a son William aged 5 but his profession is blacksmith.
His son William is an apprentice fitter in 1861 if that fits your man.
Peter
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Hi Peter
Many thanks for taking the time to look for my man. Unfortunately this is not my rellie - I have traced the chap you mentioned on the 1871 census. In 1871 my William was serving in the British army in India thus I am confidently able to dismiss the chap you have found
You will also see from the scavenger hunt that I have been unable to locate the family on either the 1851 or 1861 census.
Kind regards
Sallysmum
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Hi :)
Have you followed up this one any further?
Jesmond (Newcastle) Northumberland: HO107/2408/318/19
5 year old William Stuart,nephew, b. Gateshead staying with a Barbara Pitt.
He seems the only one that fits on the 1851. I couldn't tell if he'd been ruled out.
Gadget
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Hi Gadget
This is interesting and I am aware of it. I assume this William is either the nephew of William Pitt (found on the 1841) or his wife Barbara. Thus I need to proove a link between these 2 families and the Stuarts. So far I haven't found a Pitt-Stuart marriage, and I haven't found Barbara's maiden name (pre registration)
I don't have easy access to the PRs of the NE so this has been quite slow for me
Kind regards
sallysmum
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Hi SM
Have you looked at the BTs on family search pilot. They're not indexed but you might find something.
Here's the link to the top level:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=waypoint&s=waypointsOnly&c=fs%3A1309819&w=0
Choose a county, then parish, then year, etc.
Gadget
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thanks Gadget
I've had limited success with this site - I think I have found Wiliam amd Barbara's marriage in Gateshead (looking good as my chap is born there). Barbara's maiden name is Thomas which suggests that it is her sister that marries my William's father. However, not all the years preceeding my William's birth are there, thus cannot find a marriage of John Stuart or of a Miss Thomas marrying.
I'll see if I can order the Gateshead PR again to fully trawl through them. Thanks for your suggestions and I would still be interested if anyone out there is researching this family - they are one big brickwall to me!
sallysmum
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In the 1841 census Barbara Pitt is in Jesmond with her husband William a gardener aged c 40. She and her husband are born in Northumberland but her 3 children are born in Muncaster Cumberland. Possibly William Pitt was employed at Muncaster Castle.
Peter
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Hello;
I am at an impasse with my searching, saw your post, and am hoping that someone might have information about my Stuart/Stewarts of Gateside, believed to be Gateshead, Durham, England. Here is the pertinent information that was gleaned from a researcher, who attempted to assist, and after running out of money to give him to go on, I decided to give it a go.
In his daughter's birth entry in 1855, in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland, Peter Stewart/Stuart was noted as having been born in 1826 in Gateside, County Durham, England. My researcher deduced that the Durham 'Gateside' appears to be a variant of Gateshead, and he suspected this was the Kilwinning registrar recording what he thought he had heard, as there are many places in Scotland called Gateside, but very few if any in England.
Here is what we have:
The only possible birth that fits is that of a Peter STEWART born in 1827:
Source: IGI
Peter STUART, son of William STUART and Martha
Born 1 FEB 1827, christened 25 MAR 1827, Gateshead, County Durham
He also checked the English non-conformist records at www.thegenealogist.co.uk/bmdr/ and nothing was found, so he felt this is almost certainly my man.
Using the Record Pilot Search facility at FamilySearch (http://pilot.familysearch.org), there was a duplicate entry of Peter's baptismal record from the original baptismal register within the Bishops' Transcripts for Durham (p.223 of 558, Durham, Gateshead, 1823-1832 - christening 25 MAR 1827)
Any thoughts, ideas?
Thanks
BLMR
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On the Gateshead baptism, father Williams occupation is Tinner and Brazier, ie a Tinplate worker.
This will probably be them in 1841 census :
Easington Lane, Hetton le Hole.
William Stuart, 45, Tinner, b. Ireland.
Martha Stuart, 35, N (Not born in County)
Peter Stuart, 14, Y (Born in County)
William Stuart, 12, Y
Ann Stuart, 7, Y
Isaac Stuart, 4, Y
John Stuart, 2 months, Y
HO107/312/8/9/12
Next door is :
Isaac Stuart, 30, Tinner, b. Scotland
Jane Stuart, 35, b. Ireland
John Stuart, 13, N
Henry Stuart, 11, N
William Stuart, 8, Y
Thomas Stuart, 5, N
Eve Stuart, 2, Y
Jane Stuart, 3 months, Y
Next door again is :
Mary Stuart, 60, Ind., b. Ireland
Ann Stuart, 35, b. Ireland
John Stuart, 25, Tinner, Y
Mary Stuart, 25, b. Scotland.
No guarantee its your Peter, but it looks like this family originated in Ireland and made their way to Durham via Scotland and Northumberland.
Alan.
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Thank you for this Alan. This looks to be a serious possibility. I will take a look at the 1841 UK Census.
Much Obliged
LaDonna
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How common were Braziers / Tinplate workers?
I have information about the family of William Stewart, aged 32, 42 & 50 in the 1861 Censuses, when he was described as Brazier, Tin Plate Worker and Tinsmith, respectively. He was living in all those years at Littletown, Durham, with his wife, Jane, and children. He was born at Tantoby [Tantobie] / Collierley Dykes [Dikes] - which is near Tantobie.
Could he be the William who, aged 12, was listed as the son of the Tinner, William Stuart, and his wife Martha, who were living at Easington Lane in 1841?
(I haven't found him in 1851, though there was a William Stewart (27, born Scotland [sic]), visiting the household of Anne Ashton (widow, 43, born Newcastle upon Tyne, Dressmaker), at Oakwellgate, Gateshead). He was described as Tinsmith.)
This William's son Henry was one of the first blacksmiths at Bowburn Colliery, Durham, (which began to be sunk in 1906).
Mike
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Mike,
Its probably him, but you may need his marriage cert to confirm his father, unless someone can find his baptism.
This looks to be him in 1851
Easington Lane, Hetton le Hole (same place as the William in 1841, same place as the William in 1861's oldest children are born)
Billy Steward, Lodger, Unm, 21, Tinner, b.Shield Row, Durham
HO107/2393/372/11
Shield Row is near Tantobie. I notice he called two of his children Peter and Isaac.
Alan.
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Nothing in Tanfield 1813-1839--parish church for Shield Row and Tantobie
Marriages Gateshead: William Pitt and Barbara Thomas 14 Nov 1835
Janis
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Peter Stewart, baptized Gateshead in 1827, was the son of William Stewart and Martha Wilson, they married in Yarm, Yorkshire
William Stewart and Isaac Stewart were the sons of William (a weaver) Stewart and Mary Unknown (she was born Ireland)
William and Mary's daughter Ann Stewart's husband was John Clark (a sailor)
And Isaac Stewart's wife was Jane Francis (my 3 x gt grandparents)
Denise
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hi there my stewart married a Hannah wild and they lived in bowburn county Durham also they lived in littletown county durham. His name was Peter stewart and he was my great great grandad. i believe he was born in durham 1859.
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Peter Stewart who married Hannah Wild was the son of William Stewart and Jane Smith
William Stewart was the son of William Stewart (born Ireland) and Martha Wilson (born Yorkshire) they married 1824 in Yarm, Yorkshire
Jane Smith was the daughter of Henry Smith and Alice Francis (both born Ireland but married Gretna Green)
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thankyou for the information I already heard of a Martha Wilson who married at Yarm but didn't know how it fitted in as my great grandad was called Peter Wilson Stewart.