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Title: Help with Occupation - Completed
Post by: Harold1066 on Tuesday 18 May 10 21:44 BST (UK)
I was hoping somebody would be able to look at the 1871 census for Wittersham and decipher the occupation of James STANDEN.  The reference is:

Class: RG10; Piece: 953; Folio: 122; Page: 14 (Household 91).

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 18 May 10 21:47 BST (UK)
Occupier of land 50 acres.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: SWar on Tuesday 18 May 10 21:53 BST (UK)
Looks like  -  Occupier of land 30 acres

Sue
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 18 May 10 21:57 BST (UK)
Quote from: SWar on Tuesday 18 May 10 21:53 BST (UK)
Looks like  -  Occupier of land 30 acres

I still go for 50 acres  ;D
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: SWar on Tuesday 18 May 10 22:01 BST (UK)
Yes - having had a second look, I agree 50 acres
Sue
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: Harold1066 on Tuesday 18 May 10 22:48 BST (UK)
Thanks, confirmed what I thought but never seen it before I wanted a second opinion.  Would this mean that he is not actually farming it?

 - in later censuses he is a farmer.

 Although the 1901 census he is just down the road in Stone Cum Ebony - and appears to be a farmer of ...   

I can not work out what he is a farmer of - would normally expect an land measurement.

Reference is:

Class: RG13; Piece: 778; Folio: 72; Page: 4

again appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: nickgc on Wednesday 19 May 10 02:25 BST (UK)
I think the word "occupier" simply means that he does NOT own the land.  He could still be farming it.

Nick
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: Koromo on Wednesday 19 May 10 07:08 BST (UK)

Quote from: Harold1066 on Tuesday 18 May 10 22:48 BST (UK)

I can not work out what he is a farmer of - would normally expect an land measurement.



I read the 1901 entry as:

/armer 
                               F Rel[ative]
Ethel M Standen  Farmers daughter[/list]

The blue bits have been added later by the clerk who is noting down the occupation categories,
eg. F for farmer and for grazier. There are more examples on the previous census page.

:)
Koromo
Title: Re: Help with Occupation
Post by: Harold1066 on Wednesday 19 May 10 16:34 BST (UK)
Thanks everybody that looked and especially these that noted their thoughts.

Will now mark this has completed.
Title: Re: Help with Occupation - Completed
Post by: Jim Standen on Tuesday 04 February 20 19:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this. James is my great-great grandfather and I am currently on the trail of Ethel's brother Spencer who is my great-grandfather who emigrated to Canada in 1903 and vanished from Canada around 1925.
Title: Re: Help with Occupation - Completed
Post by: Jim Standen on Wednesday 01 December 21 18:56 GMT (UK)
Not 100% sure but this looks to be my great-great grandfather James who farmed at Acton House and prior to that at Blackbrook with his father Spencer. In other census he is noted as grazier and I have found references to sheep in associated newspaper articles.