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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: mafiamuma on Monday 17 May 10 15:36 BST (UK)
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HELLO EVERYONE,
IM PRETTY NEW TO ROOTS oops
and im wondering if anyone who lives in cheshire nantwich or near there would be able to check a marriage for me,
i didnt gro up with my family so my info is alil confusing, my granpa john buckley born nantwich 1865/6 was last seen in the 1899 cen living with his sisters martha ann ? on the farm in astonlane, after his parents had both passed away, his father was a JOHN BUCKLEY 1830 and mother HANNAH BUCKLEY nee CHARLESWORTH1830ISH BOTH CHESHIRE.
now i know john eventually went to south africa where my dad ws born in 1910.
i have been given a possible marriage for him .which i thought was abit strange as i thought he married in South Africa natal durban.
but it maynot be the case. his marriage is still a mystery . but i have some info and wondered if anyone would be able to check for me.
the lady name is LUCY ELLEN BAKER ALSO FROM NANTWICH THEY WED 1893 DEC, 8A 524 (not sure what that is)
BUT IF THIS IS GRANMA THEN SHE WENT TO s.a, AS DAD WAS BORN THERE IN 1910.AND HAD SIBLINGS TOO.
i have tried to get dads birth cert abt 2 years ago from the S.A. archives but can you believe they still havent responded even though i wrote 5 letters of complaint as they had already got the cash.and they havent reimberssed us.
they are rubbish, and i cant move forward.so if i am right and am on the right board can someone please let me know. i ws told to try on here. so thats it realy
thanking you for your time and efforts in advance.
ciao for now jacki(mumamafia)
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You can use the reference you have been given to order the marriage certificate online at www.gro.gov.uk or alternatively go to http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk where you will see the marriage of John Buckley to Lucy E Baker took place in St Chad, Wybunbury. There is a link to download an application form and post it with a cheque to obtain the marriage certificate in this way, but if you don't live in the UK then it's usually easier to order from the GRO as they accept payments online.
With the information from this certificate you should be able to confirm their dates of birth, occupations, addresses and father's names and occupations.
This couple appear to be on the 1901 census living in Lea, Chester
John Buckley Head M 32 Estate Labourer born Chester Lea
Lucy E Wife M 25 Chester Shavington
Annie daur 6 " Lea
Mary daur 4 " "
Ada daur 2 " "
RG13; Piece: 3354; Folio: 59; Page: 17.
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On the pilot site on familysearch the Cheshire's parish records state that the father of John Buckley in this marriage to Lucy Ellen Baker was William Buckley. So if his father was John it isn't your John's marriage.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08pf/
Evie
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hello
here is the 1891 census
Aston Juxta modrum
Cheshire
John Buckley Head single 25 Farmer
Annie Buckley sister single 30
Martha Buckley sister swingle 27
Jane Buckley sister single 21
all born Acton Cheshire
(plus 3 farm servants)
ref RG12 2855 79 23
the marriage reg means there was a marriage registered in Dec qtr (between end Sept and end Dec) 1893 in nantwich registrastion district and the 2 names on the page are John Buckley and Lucy Ellen Baker - they are the only 2 names on the page -so it looks like they married each other -nothing completely certain until you have certificate the ref is Volume 8a page 524
It may be "your" John -or could be another - the name is not uncommon -the certificate would give father's name and occupation
Hope this has explained a little
Suz
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Evie has posted a good link - it seems John Buckley who married Lucy Ellen baker is not "your" John
Possibly he is a John Buckley who was b Lea Chester(from 1901 census)
Suz
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to confirm they had left the farm by 1901
1901 --- Aston Juxta Mondrum, Aston Juxta Mondrum
RG13 Piece: 3361 Folio: 78 Page: 9
WILLIAMSON, William Head Married M 36 1865 Farmer
Wheelock
Cheshire
WILLIAMSON, Jane Wife Married F 38 1863
Stanthorne
Cheshire
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firstly thanks to all of you who have answered my query,
im feeling more confused and down now. i thought great finally i found granma. as far as i know the only children she had were all born in natal durban south africa.
unless she did in fact have children before she left.????
i do know that the buckley's in my family used different names like john buckley born 1762? went also by the name as william, gosh they luved to make things complecated hahahah
i wonder why john left the farm in one cen it gives them all as married which ws an error.
i did find a shipps record of a john buckley leaving southampton to natal durban. on the avondale castle ship. but seems he was alone unless lucy went long before him.?
oh my this is all a big mystery that doesnt seem to be resolved. mmmm i will get the cert but will have to include his mother and fathers name whatif i put the adress too would that help in anyway.
i am waiting for my new card as the lastone one stolen wen we got burgled. so will just wait awhile till then
i do thank you all so much.
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Hi
Do you have access to ancestry as there is a public member tree on there that seems to have your family.
Evie
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evening again folks,
i have also now checked the family search link mmm william?
i realy am not sure if this is him, as his father didnt have william as a second name and like i said that,
lucy granma kids were born in S.A.
Evie yes that i smy tree though it hasnt realy been used for a while and its abit mixed up.
mm wonder where i should search next? anyone have any ideas?
thnx again for all yr time and help
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i did find a shipps record of a john buckley leaving southampton to natal durban. on the avondale castle ship. but seems he was alone unless lucy went long before him.?
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It doesn't look like Lucy Ellen was his wife - so purchasing that marriage cert wouldn't really helpyou
When did you find John Buckley going to S Africa??
Suz
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hi Suz,,
this is the info i had which makes me think it could be granpa.its from shipspassenger lists someone found for me
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Mr J BUCKLEY
Date of departure: 27 January 1906
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Durban (Port Natal)
Destination country: South Africa
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 5
Ship: AVONDALE CASTLE
Official Number: 108160
Master's name: J W Hague
Steamship Line: Donald Currie & Company
Where bound: South Africa
Square feet: 5983
Registered tonnage: 3542
Passengers on voyage: 163
but this hasnt be proven either,, South african archives are none to clever and very unhelpfull from my experience.this may or may not be my granpa, jus a coincidence the name age and where he was headed.. but it could be couldnt it? especially the time scale fits from when dad was born durban 1910.dec.
oh my my head is achi9ng once again hehehe
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it does seem a possibility that is your grandpa - if he left 1906 then he should be on the UK 1901 census - haven't found him yet - we know he wasn't at the farm .
Suz
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;)good morning Suz,
how r u today?
do you know if there would be anymore info about passengers than what is givethere?
or do u have any ideas of where i could try n look..
havent as yet been well enough to go to kew archives but i will do wen better.
dont think he is an the 1901 mcen so far have never found him.
cheers for all yr time and help..
will catch up with you abit later
jacki x