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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: MKsylvia on Friday 14 May 10 18:14 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have any access to or any information about this family?
All I know is that they were George and Sarah Ryder, they lived at 1 Marsh Lane NewRoss Wexford
They had 6 children, who I know about and my grandmother was one of them, Isabella. The others were John, Elizabeth, Sarah, Florence and one other I don't have a name for.
George was born 1864 and was a master mariner.
ANY other information as to who Sarah was before she was married or the Ryders further back would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
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Birth certificate for your grandmother (or any of her siblings) will list mother's maiden name.
This is the 1911 census entry for the family. There is no street number for the property listed ('1' is the number of the house on the census form).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/New_Ross__Urban/Marsh_Lane/690119/
Form says married 21 years so marriage took place around 1890. At the moment the civil index is not available (hopefully LDS are fixing problems that have appeared since recent update).
The 1901 census is due to be added in June 2010.
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Hi Thanks for the info,
I have already seen the census which is where I got what I already have about the faimly.
Unfortunately we don't have any documents we can refer to at all.
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It's not possible to do further research online at the moment as it requires searching the Civil Index which as aghadowey mentioned is not available at the moment.
When it's back online I'd say the first step would be to find a reference for the birth of one of the children - the youngest, or least commonly occurring name is usually best, in this case Isabella born about 1908, and use the references to order a birth cert. The details on this will include her mother's maiden name, which will then help find the correct marriage in the index.
Shane
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Unfortunately we don't have any documents we can refer to at all.
do you have marriage details for Isabella ?
A marriage cert would give her father's name and occupation and would confirm her connection to this family.
Shane
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Hi
No as I said we have no documents at all. My grandmother died in 1969. I shall to wait for the LDS site.
I understand about ordering certificates I have done this many times, but have never dealt with the Irish side of it.
Thanks
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The familysearch Irish BMD Index is working at the moment and there's a possible marriage for George & Sarah :
Name: George Ryder
Registration District: New Ross
Event Type: Marriage
Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1890
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 317
Name: Sarah Ellis
[same index details]
I dont see a match for Isabella's birth at the moment.
see the topic 2 Minute Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) for details on searching the BMD index, ordering certs etc
Shane
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a probable index match for Isabella's birth :
Name: Isabella Ryder
Registration District: New Ross
Event Type: Birth
Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1907
Volume Number: 4 / Page Number: 553
Shane
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Thank you very much Shane.
Where do I order this from? GRO?
Sylvia
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details on ordering certs are included in the introduction to Irish records link posted above
Shane
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Sorry yes I just saw that, I missed one of your messages. I'm looking now.
That's great, Thanks.
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do you know when & where Isabella married ?
I dont see any promising matches on the Irish BMD Index
Shane
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My grandmother married in the UK, she married Edward Arthur Doughty in Woolwich 1933.
I have most of the details of her life in England but not Ireland.
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New Ross Town Roots 1901(taken from 1901 census, but less details)
Marsh Lane (11)
Ryder Sarah, John, William, Elizabeth, Ethel.(lodging house keeper)
No surname Ryder found in the Elector's list 1955/56.
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Thanks for that. William, that might be the missing child. It says 6 living on the 1911 census, but only 5 showing.
It all helps.
Sylvia
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I now have the marriage certificate for George and Sarah. Could anyone help with the following information.
The cert is dated July 31st 1890
It says on the certificate that the residence for George Ryder was.......
Sailing Vessel Robert and Elizabeth now lying at Waterford.
His profession is Sea Captain and also his fathers profession was the same, he was John Ryder.
I can't find any ships called that or any reference to any Ryders being Sea Captains.
Can anyone assist?
Sylvia
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As a small boy I met Sadie Ryder who was a good friend of my late aunt Lily Stewart of New Ross.
Sadie married George Tyrrell who was a master mariner, no doubt one of the well known Arklow shipping family.
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Hi Jack
Thanks for that information, every little bit helps.