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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: ancestrian on Friday 14 May 10 13:27 BST (UK)
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attempting to trace back from 1845, George Scarff born Hunston 1845,parents George Scarff and Susan / Susanna Scarff - any information most welcome!
Ian Wilson
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hi,and welcome to RC.
1851 census in case you haven't got:
transcribed as Scurff living in Hound,hampshire
George Scurff 33 ag lab b.Thurston
Susannah Scurff 31 b.essex
Sarah Scurff 10 Mucking,essex
Walter Scurff 8 Bakerstreet,essex
George Scurff 6 Thurston
Agness Scurff 4 southampton
James Scurff 2 hound,hamps
Mary A Scurff 4 Mo Hound,hamps
Samuel Brown 67
Maria Garrick 17
Diddy
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A tree on ancestry shows George Scarff was married to Susan Brown from Essex with marriage ca.1840. Have found possibly marriage listing in the September quarter of 1840 at Orsett, Essex where the couple are transcribed as Susannah Brown and George Scuff!
I think George's baptism is on the IGI shown as:
George Scarff bp.25/12/1817 Archdeaconry of Sudbury, Suffolk, son of George and Judith. Archdeaconry was vast so bet this baptism was actually at Hunston. George Scarff and Judith Marsh were married 8/9/1805 Norton, Suffolk.
Annette
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George Scarff senior states born in Norton, Suffolk (where he married) and there is on IGI:
George Scarff, bp.17/4/1782 Norton, Suffolk son of John and Elizabeth.
Annette
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thank you both - now I know to "try" Scurff and Scuff in my searches
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Hi,
I think I'm working on the same line as you here, as my wife's family are, I think, descendents of this George Scarff, who moved to Liverpool and had a large family with Mary Jane Neil Bezant. Let me know if this agrees with your findings.
Best regards,
Gavin Thomas.
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Present family circumstances mean that I am relatively inactive on genealogy at the moment, however it would appear that George and Mary Jane who were my great grandparents on my mothers side are the same ones that you are researching.The postings from diddymiller and Annette 7 are relevant as my copy of the birth certificate for George Scarff born 19/01/1845 lists parents as George and Susana (maiden name not listed)
Thank you I did not have the maiden name for Mary Jane
Best wishes
Ian Wilson
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Hi Ian,
Here is George and Mary jane details from her marriage certificate:
Marriage solemnized at the Baptist Chapel, East Street, in the District of Southampton in the County of the same town.
No. 197
Fourteenth May 1868
George Scarff. Aged 23 years. Bachelor. Storekeeper Screw Company. 111 Orchard Terrace.
Father's name: George Scarff. Stevador
Mary Jane Neil Bezent. Aged 20 years. Spinster. 24 Upper Canal Walk.
Father's name: Stephen Bezent (deceased). Shopkeeper.
Married in the Baptist Chapel East Street according to the rites and ceremonies of the Baptists by certificate by me Robert Craven Minister.
Witnessed by Agnes Scarff and Thomas Pittman.
Cheers,
Gavin.
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Thanks Gavin
- hoping to get back to the family research in the very near future - information like this is a great motivator!
Ian
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Are you still looking for info on George Scarff? I live in Hunston and am regularly at the small church there. Can take a look at the gravestones if that would help?
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That is very kind of you and much appreciated - the George Scarff that was the focus of my enquiry moved away from the area however his parents or grandparents could well be buried there:-
George Scarff 1817 -1897 Susannah Scarff 1819 - ????
George Scarff 1786 - ???? Judith Scarff 1780 - ????
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Ok, I'll have a look for you. I'll be there next friday if not before, so I'll get back to you before next weekend.
A
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Hi
Sorry - I drew a complete blank. There are very few gravestones left in the graveyard and those that are there are illegible. I am planning on doing a history of the village with a friend over the coming months- only 150 inhabitants in the village - so if i come across any more info in the records office etc I will get back to you.
Regards, Anthea
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Hello Andrea,
I have noticed your interest in your village. There is a vacancy for a Local History Recorder in Hunston. Would you be interested in taking it on?
You can email directly via the Suffolk Local History Council website, or send me a PM. Our Annual Conference day is held quite near to you at Elmswell and we shall be there in March for Societies Day, when Local History Groups from all over the county will be there with their publications and to give advice and help.
Best regards, Pat ...
Recorders' Secretary at
www.slhc.org.uk
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Hi Pat
Well that was a bit of a shock! I have no idea what a local history recorder is. I am happy to consider doing it, but I'd like to know exactly what it is and what it involves. I'll have a look at your website.
Regards
Anthea
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Anthea,
Thank you very much for your trouble - I too will take a look at www.slhc.org uk - I hope that one day I may visit Hunston
Ian
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Hunston is a charming village. My Great Grandparents were married in the church in 1895.
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Hi Colin
Thank you for your note. Do you have any info on the Buckles in Hunston? I am part of a group in the village who are researching the history of the village, the houses and the people who lived in the old houses. There were quite alot of Buckles - ag labourers and shoemakers I believe, but I guess you prob know more than me. We have just started going to the local records office collating info so if there is anything there you would like me to find out then I'm happy to do that. Have you been to Hunston - at one point the Buckles lived in Trotmans yard and then I believe it was called Buckles yard. There is a row of 3 cottages now called 'the yard' and we think that is prob Buckles/Trotmans yard. The village is so small there are not many old dwellings. If you have any pictures of your family here that would be very interesting. Thanks for getting in touch.
Anthea
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Hi Anthea
My ancestors weren't Hunston locals. They moved there all the way from Elmswell. My Gt Gt Grandparents (James & Harriet) moved there with their family in the early 1890's. They were farm labourers and in 1901 were living at Hall Farm. They'd moved on (all the way to Gt Ashfield) by 1911.
My Gt Grandparents (Thomas & Sarah) lived there for a while after marriage in 1895 (their first 2 children were born there) but by 1901 had moved to Ipswich and a little later to Newmarket where they remained.
I have visited the village along with many others locally where my ancestors lived. I was actually bought up in Bury, and my parents live there, so was fairly local myself.
I've noticed many Buckles in Hunston when I I've been researching but am not aware of any link but I'm sure there is at some time, mine lived in Badwell Ash at one stage. I've been in touch with a Carl Buckle who lives locally and is researching Buckles in that area, he may be of more help if you're not already in touch.
My website has my trees, etc.
Colin
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Hi Colin
Thanks for your reply. It's interesting to read - Hall Farm is just round the corner from us, a lovely old house.
I will have to try and get in touch with Carl Buckle maybe.
Thanks
Anthea
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Anthea
I suspect they weren't living at the lovely old house but perhaps some shack in the grounds :)
I thought Carl was a member on here but I can't find him, I think he lives somewhere like Thurston. If you can't find him get back to me I may still have his email.
Colin
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I have Carl Buckle on the Suffolk Surnames Listing, will PM you.
Pat ...
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Interesting when Colin says that he was brought up in Bury - I presume he means Bury Saint Edmunds rather than the real BURY in Lancashire
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Of course, too much of a mouthful when you live there!