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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: dhhound on Thursday 13 May 10 20:00 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help track a marriage for this lady in California. She was born in Illinois in 1910, father Alexander, mother Jennie McElligott. She doesn't appear in the death indexes but I'm thinking its a very small chance she's still living. Any help would be appreciated if only to say, yes she is still living.
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Hello dhhound.
Unfortunately the California Marriage does'nt cover the time-frame which you need - The California Marriage Index only covers 1850 - 1877. Can plainly see her on all 3 available census but nothing else at the moment. :(
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Rose Agnes Bagley - 30 th June 1910. Birth Certificate is here if you have'nt already got it.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08o9/
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She shows up in the California voter registrations in Los Angeles in 1932 & 1934, but I don't see her beyond that.
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Thanks for that, I had the facts of her birth but very nice to get the confirming image.
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Thanks shellyesq. Good chance then that she married and so would show up under her married name in future, or moved out of state.
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It looks like Rose's sister and Rose's mother are on the California death index with death dates in 1941 and 1946, respectively. Maybe an obituary for one of them would have a married name or location for Rose.
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I've tried that through Ancestry and got nowhere. Any suggestions for a better way, thank you
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Have you made contact with the other anc..try tree that has the family listed, they may be able to throw some light on the possible living person. ???
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Yes, we co-operate already. She's a second cousin of my wife, both of whom have the sister of Alexander T Bagley, Rose's father, as a great grandmother.
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The Death Record for Alexandria states she died 9 Jan 1967 - Riverside. California. Have you contacted Riverside Public Library - they will do obituary/newspaper look ups - this link gives an address to write to, although it may take 4 - 6 weeks by mail. the service appears to be free.
http://www.riversideca.gov/library/services_reference.asp
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No, i hadn't known that service existed. Thank you for the link, I will follow it up.
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No problem, let us know what sort of a response you may get - its always nice to know how things pan out. Good Luck. ;D
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Yes, I will let you know what happens. I'm hopeful as in the past I've found most libraries more than willing to help.
I have now been told that both Rose and her sister Alexandra attended UCLA so the puzzle is gradually being filled in.
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http://news.google.co.uk/
- there is a 1942 obituary which mentions "Miss Alexandria Bagley of Riverside" and "Miss Rose Bagley"
http://books.google.com/books?id=2u3mAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Rose+Bagley%22+%22Los+Angeles%22&dq=%22Rose+Bagley%22+%22Los+Angeles%22&lr=&cd=2
- this mentions a "Rose Bagley Sarri" (Mrs Wm)
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Thank you jorose for those links. The obit is the obit of their father Alexander. Rose Bagley Sarri is the lady in question as I have received an email regarding her involvment with the founding of the UCLA chapter of the sorority, Theta Phi Alpha.
More of the puzzle put together. Thank you again
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Jorose - thank you again for the Sarri link. I was able to track a 1935 marriage to William Sarri (b 1903 d 1967). Not a successful marriage, they were separated by 1942, divorced by 1945 and he remarried. She is mentioned in her mother's obit in 1946 as 'Miss Bagley'. As a Catholic she may never have remarried. Her death doesn't appear in the California Death Index under either name
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This is a rather old thread, but if anyone is still following, I can provide this information. The source is her sister who said that, according to Rose, the marriage to Wm. Sarri was bigamous and that he had not abandoned his first wife and family when he married her. That happened before the death of her mother, Jennie Bagley. Rose was still alive at the time of Alexandria's death (1966) and boarding in Death Valley with a Mormon family. Possibly the marriage was annulled. She definitely used her maiden name after the separation.
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Thank you, your information at least gives a reason for the breakup of the marriage. If you are connected to the Bagley family, its quite a family to have a connection with.
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I have no direct connection to the Bagley family other than Alexandria (Ria). I served with her in Korea and Japan and she recommended me for a Command position when she left the Air Force Library Service. She was my mentor and a leader in every sense of the word. I remember her saying to me, "Figuring out the problem is much easier than solving it." And then she would ask what solutions you were considering.
Her life-long friend, Narcissa Bond Emanuel, who boarded with the Bagley family, always spoke highly of their mother. I think the father had passed about then.
If they were all like Ria they were indeed remarkable and I regret missing out on that.
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My connection is through my wife. Richard Bagley, b Rathmillie, Ireland 1829, m Catherine Bland was my wife's GGG grandfather. Of his children, Frederick A joined the Mounties and was present at the treaty signing when Sitting Bull came north to Canada after Little Big Horn. His brothers all moved to California, one of whom was Alexander T, father of Rose Agnes.
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There was also an older sister, Alice, who died as a child.
I have what appears to be yearbook photos of Rose and Alexandria as young adults. Will post them on Dropbox for you if you are interested. Also have photos of Ria in Korea but those need to be extracted from a HDD on my dead computer. Can also send them, when I get around to that.
My mother's family are from Belgium and the Netherlands and some thoughtful soul has them traced back to the 17th century. My dad's folks were British and emigrated on the fly also in the 17th century but some zealous family member has traced them back to the Greek City States. That is more than I care to know.
Enjoy the evening. Thankfully I do not need to listed to the Presidential Debate tonight. This makes you think more highly of the British electoral system.
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Thank you for the offer of the pictures, yes, I and my wife would really like to see them. My cousin whose father was a Texan, the family migrated south and west over the 400 or so years since Plymouth Rock, can trace her father's line back to the guy who captained the Mayflower.
I thought I had the daughter who died listed, but must look more.
As for the presidential debate, we have a 'media star' as our Prime Minister now, and although I don't agree with everything he has done, I think we needed a new broom. We are visiting Cincinnati this weekend where I'm expecting Donald will be the big subject of conversation unless our host bans all political discussions, an action I would agree with.
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Here are the links to the photos for Alexandria & Rose Bagley. I would take the death date for Rose with a grain of salt as that is also given as the death date for her mother, Jennie, which I know is wrong.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3324503/Alexandria%20Bagley.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3324503/Rose%20Bagley.JPG
Very strong resemblance in the two photos.
At the time of Ria's death, I know she had an elderly cousin who lived in Glendale who was an attorney and did her will. Do know there we several relationship errors in it which puzzled the Emanuels and me at the time. We figured that neither was playing with a full deck at the time and it was none of our business. Rose was alive at that time, Dec-Jan 1966-67, and was brought in for a visit immediately before Alexandria's death.
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Thanks for the pictures. I had seen the one of Rose before, but the one of Ria was new to me.