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Title: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Tuesday 11 May 10 16:28 BST (UK)
Looking for the parents of William Christopher Chapman born Brisbane, NSW around 1880, he says he is 31yrs old in the 1911 Yorkshire Census.
Any help in finding the above greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Chapman - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 11 May 10 16:47 BST (UK)
Brisbane is in QLD   ;D

CHAPMAN William Christopher b. 6 Mar 1880 #B026506

Parents: William Christopher Chapman & Patience Hallett Lammiman


You can lookup the BDM's online here:

http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/829.htm
Title: Re: Chapman - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: Siouxsie on Wednesday 12 May 10 08:29 BST (UK)
Hi,
And William Christopher Chapman (father) married Patience Hullett Lammiman at Sculcoates , Yorkshire in 1875.

Cheers
Siouxsie
Title: Re: Chapman - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 12 May 10 09:01 BST (UK)

Here is possibly PATIENCE arriving

CHAPMAN, Patience aged 25  on ship British Nation arrived  2 Dec 1876 IMM/115 1248 Z1959 M

Still looking for William

CHAPMAN W. C. aged 23
CHAPMAN THOMAS aged 19
CHAPMAN BERTRAND aged inf.

Same voyage details as PATIENCE
Sue
Title: Re: Chapman - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 13 May 10 06:48 BST (UK)
Hi

There were three  births al together to the couple in QLD and then two more in New South Wales, I think.

In 1877/   LilianChapman. father William Christopher. mother Patience Hullett Lammiman.  reg. 22013
In 1878   Rosamond    Chapman.    father William Christopher. mother Patience Lammermond. reg 23913
In 1880   William Christopher.   father Chapman William Christopher. mother Patience Hallett Lammiman. reg. 26056


NSW   http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

In 1881 CHAPMAN    LOVELL E. father WILLIAM C mother PATIENCE H at  URALLA reg. 24519 
In 1883    CHAPMAN, SYDNEY  father WILLIAM C . motherPATIENCE H SYDNEY reg.  3251

I suspect they were back in Eng. by 1891.
I cannot see much of the census.  Perhaps someone else can.

Sue

Title: Re: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880. COMPLETED WITH THANKS>
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Thursday 13 May 10 16:26 BST (UK)
To, Sparrett, Siouxsie and Merlin,
Wow!!  Many many thanks for your quick reply, and all the information you have provided, it is very very much appreciated,
Thanx once again,
gogogadgetlegs
Title: Re: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: judb on Friday 14 May 10 08:10 BST (UK)
Yopu probably have this, and it explains why you thought Brisbane is in NSW!  ;D

UK Census

1891 at 74 Brook St, Kingston upon Hull, Yorks (all born Hull except where shown)
William C Chapman 36, book seller,
Patience Chapman 36, b Alford, Lincs
Bertrand Chapman 15, b Hull
Rosie Chapman 12, b Queensland
William Chapman 11 b Queensland
Lovel Chapman 9 b New South Wales
Sydney Chapman 7 b New South Wales
Ronald Chapman 5 b Hull
Jessie Chapman 4
Stanley Chapman 2
Musidora Chapman 8/12

1901 at 15 Ann St,
William C Chapman 46, book seller, b Hull
Lovel Chapman 19, general labourer, b New South Wales
Ronald Chapman 16, Book seller b Hull

It is hard to read but I think it says 'M' for William so don't know where Patience is.  I cannot see an appropriate death for her on FreeBMD.  Perhaps this is her with the others?

1901 at 31 Marlborough Terrace, West Sculcoates, part of Kingston upon Hull
Pattie Chapman 48, Head, Married,  b Lincolnshire
Bertie Chapman 25, fireman on ships, b Hull
Sydney Chapman 17,  hawker, b Australia
Stanley Chapman 13, b Hull
Musidora Chapman 10
John Chapman 9
Tom Riches 51, boarder, Married, fireman on ships, b Hull

Judith

Title: Re: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: sparrett on Friday 14 May 10 08:33 BST (UK)
Hi
Judith, I'm sure PATTY is PATIENCE.

I think gogo will be glad to have your information.  I think he did not have 1991 details.


Where is/was Ann Street.  Is it close to Marlborough Terrace?
Sue
Title: Re: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: sparrett on Friday 14 May 10 09:00 BST (UK)
Well, just doing a countup and that is 10 children I think ;D ;D

Wonder if Mrs Tom Riches wife of the lodger, had just popped out for the evening on census night. ;)

Sue
Title: Re: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Friday 14 May 10 15:27 BST (UK)
Hi to everyone,
Many thanks for your continued efforts, i do in fact have access to the census 1891 & 1901 and when i looked on the 1911 census i found William Chapman married Boorseller born Hull a patient in the Hull, Workhouse.

William's wife under the name of Pattie Chapman was house keeper to guess who!!
 
43 Marlborough Terrace (4 rooms)
Tom Riches, Head, age 61yrs, married, 40yrs, 2 children 1 died, Ships Fireman born Hull. (no sign of his wife)
Pattie Chapman, Housekeeper, 59yrs, married 34yrs, 11 children, 10 living, born Alford, Lincs,
Lovell Chapman son single age 29yrs, Labourer, born Queensland,
Sydney Chapman son single age 27yrs, Labouer born Sydney,
Jack Chapman son single age 19yrs labourer, born Hull.

So i guess you may be right and Mrs Tom Riches popped out again on the night of the 1911 census as well. ;D

Thank you all once again for the information you have supplied it is greatly appreciated.
Gogogadgetlegs.

Title: Re: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Friday 14 May 10 15:38 BST (UK)
Forgot to say that Ann Street is in Holy Trinity, so probably William suffered from depression or something like that with 10 children running around him, moved from West Sculcoates with two of his sons, Lovell and Ronald, to Holy Trinity and thats why he ended up in the Workhouse as a patient, as i see that his sons returned home to mum in 1911.
Obviously could not sell enough books to keep all his family!!!!!!!
Gogo.
Title: Re: CHAPMAN - born Brisbane NSW c1880
Post by: Woodlands on Sunday 01 August 10 00:17 BST (UK)
Hello,

Just seen this post. William C Chapman & Patience are my Gt. Grandparents!!
I can tell you anything about them you want to know & about the family.
How are you related?

Margaret Greenhow nee Chapman