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Title: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: heathers on Friday 07 May 10 14:35 BST (UK)

Is anyone going to PMB archives - who could have a quick look at the European Immigration Card Index ?  I have tried asking them by email but received no reply.

I am looking for the Horsman or Horseman family, especially Thomas and Ruth Horsman,  between 1861 and 1868. 
A daughter Elizabeth was baptised in Yorkshire in February 1861.
I believe a son Jeffrey was born in Natal in 1863,  and was named in his grandmothers will as being in Port Natal in 1873.
Thomas died in early 1868 in Broughton, Natal.

thanks

Sue

Title: Re: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: rutti tutti on Saturday 15 May 10 17:41 BST (UK)

Hi there,
Have you checked the passenger lists at genealogyworld.net. Here  is the Natal ship lists
http://genealogyworld.net/rose/natal.html

Ruth

Title: Re: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: heathers on Sunday 16 May 10 07:15 BST (UK)

Yes thanks - I checked them a while ago,  but have just re checked the relevant period - with no success.

Title: Re: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: malcolmrstevens on Saturday 29 May 10 16:53 BST (UK)

Dear Sue,

I read with interest your posting on searching for the family of Ruth and Thomas Horsman. I am trying to trace my great-grandmother with little success - she was Ruth Regina Horsman who married Frederick Dainton Stevens in Natal. She was born circa 1892 and died rather young (1923) so there's little knowledge within the family of her side of the family. Her death notice does not reflect the names of her parents and I simply can't find any birth or marriage records - at least not yet. We thought she may have been the daughter of Ruth and Thomas given the name link, but cannot validate this as yet.

In case you were not aware of some of the best places for tracing South African ancestors / descendants there are some useful links :

http://www.national.archives.gov.za/index.htm
www.ancestor.co.za

If I can find anything for you, I will be in touch.

regards
Malcolm

Title: Re: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: jukey on Thursday 06 March 14 10:12 GMT (UK)

I have just seen the enquiry on Ruth and Thomas Horsman and Family who apparatly emigrated to Natal South Africa in early 1860 s.
I am also interested in this family who are my paternal ancesters.
You may have progressed sufficiently to your own needs by this time but it would be interesting to be in contact to see what information  we both have.
I have only recently discovered the Horsman connection to my family.
Hope to hear from you in due course.
June
My Ruth Horsman was nee Watson 1840-1922 married to Thomas Horsman 1839-1868 in Yorkshire England in 1860.
I understand they had 3 children- Elizabeth b 1861 in Bedale Yorkshire. .Jeffrey b1863 in South Africa and Emma Mary b 1868 South Africa.
Thomas and Ruth with Daughter Elizabeth must have emigrated prior to 1863 when Jeffrey was born.
Thomas died South Africa in 1868 but I do not know the cause of his death.
I do not know what happened to Ruth after Thomas `s death or where she eventually died in 1922.
Would love to know more about this family.
Anyone help please,
Regards
June

Title: Re: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: pampoen on Thursday 06 March 14 12:05 GMT (UK)

Hi go to this link https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12060-71435-58?cc=2063749&wc=M9WM-PRP:1572919145 to view the marriage certificate of Ruth to Frederick in Ladysmith on the 24/6/1912. Her age given is 20 meaning she was born 1892.

I also found this DEPOT     NAB    SOURCE    MSC LEER  SYSTEM    01   REFERENCE 173/1963        PART      1   DESCRIPTION  STEVENS, FREDERICK DAINTON. BORN IN ENGLAND. PRSP RUTH REGINA     STEVENS. NO TRACE - DIED IN 1923. DECEASED ESTATE.  STARTING  19610000        ENDING    19630000.

Hope this is of some help.

Regards Derek

Title: Re: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: rutti tutti on Monday 14 April 14 13:57 BST (UK)

Hi Derek,
The cemetery records for Ruth Regina state she was 32 years old when she died- Stellawood
Ruth

Title: Re: European Immigration indexes and registers at Pietermaritzburg Archives
Post by: Nookie on Tuesday 15 April 14 19:16 BST (UK)

I found the following estate files at the National Archives.  Under familysearch, Africa, Natal marriages there is a scan of the marriage of Jeffrey.

DEPOT     NAB
SOURCE    MSCE
TYPE      LEER    VOLUME_NO 3/16    SYSTEM    01   
REFERENCE H20/1868     PART      1   DESCRIPTION          HORSMAN, THOMAS. (S/S RUTH) BORN WATSON.    STARTING  1868   ENDING    1868

DEPOT     TAB
SOURCE    MHG            TYPE      LEER      VOLUME_NO 0   
SYSTEM    01  REFERENCE 5300    PART      1     
DESCRIPTION          MENTON, THOMAS MADDEN STARTING  19040000 
ENDING    19040000  REMARKS   SURVIVING SPOUSE EMMA MARY (BORN HORSMAN).   


DEPOT     TAB               
SOURCE    MHG                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 65805                                                                 
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          JEFFERS, EMMA MARY. (BORN HORSMAN).                                   
STARTING  19280000                                                             
ENDING    19280000                                                             
REMARKS   SURVIVING SPOUSE FRANK JEFFERS. PREDECEASED SPOUSE - MENTON