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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: AnneMM on Wednesday 05 May 10 16:13 BST (UK)
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Trying to track down information on Walter Ellams born abt 1890 and his parents.
I was told he was in a Barnadoes Home on Isle of Dogs and assumed he was an orphan. Now discovered that his father (Charles Ellams)died, but his mother (no name known) put him and brother (William) in home, but kept sister (Nelly - christened Ellen May) and remarried. She then apparently lived in Signalmen's house, Seaford Road, Fulham. Can't find her name anywhere.
Would like to find evidence of Walter and William in a Barnadoes home, but don't know how to find this information.
Also informed that Willaim emigrated to Canada or USA and wondered whether he was one of the children from homes in London who were sent abroad.
Thank you :)
Anne
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Hello Anne and Welcome to Rootschat ;D
Is he the Walter Ellams who aged 24 married Emily Jane Picken on Xmas day 1914?
His father was Charles Ellams a labourer.
The church was St Andrews Chelsea.he is listed as shop assistant and the address they both were staying at was 22 Callow Street.
The witnesses were Ellen May Ellams and Henry Edward Prime.
Sounds like he was still around the area and may appear on the 1911 census.
Regards
Carol
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Ellen May Ellams married William Vincent on 8 Jun 1919 at St Oswald, Anselm Road,Hammersmith. The writing is impossible to read but I can seec that her dad was Charles Ellams,and that the witnesses were Walter Ellams and Emily Jane Ellams(his wife,nee Picken !)
Carol
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Hi Carol
That's right that's him. I just can't seem to find a definitive date of birth for him or anymore details of his parents or time in the childrens home. ???
Thank you for looking.
Anne :)
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Hi
Births Jun 1885
Elams Emily Alice Lambeth 1d 356
Births Sep 1887
ELAMS Albert William Kingston 2a 358
Births Dec 1891
Elams Walter Jackson Kingston 2a 355
Births Sep 1893
Elams Ellen May Kingston 2a 365
1901 census RG13 357 folio 11
169 Stebondale Street Poplar
Eliza Elams 45 Head Widow Laundress London Middlesex
Emily Elams 15 Daughter Domestic London Middlesex
Walter Elams 9 Son Teddington Middlesex
Ellen Elams 7 Daughter Teddington Middlesex
1891 census RG12 618 folio 67
41 Florence Road Teddington
Eliza J Elams 35 Head Married Laundress London Middlesex
Emily A Elams 5 Daughter Lambeth Surrey
Albert W Elams 3 Son Teddington Middlesex
William Jackson 54 Lodger Widower Excavator Norfolk
Marriages Jun 1881
AYLING Eliza Jane Lambeth 1d 670
Elams Charles Lambeth 1d 670
22nd May 1881 St Mary Lambeth
Charles Elams 21 Bachelor Labourer St Johns Street Richard Elams Labourer
Eliza Jane Ayling 25 Spinster Regent Street William Ayling Boot manufacturer
Marriage by banns. Eliza signed, Charles made his mark
Witnesses William and Emma Daniels
St Mary Lambeth 10th May 1885 born 17th April
Emily Alice Elams parents Charles and Eliza, 26 High Street, father's occupation labourer
St Peter and St Paul, Teddington 20th July 1887 born 24th June
Albert William Elams parents Charles and Eliza, Upper Teddington, father's occupation labourer
Eliza Jane and Emily Alice appear to be together on the 1911 census in Kensington - surname spelt Ellams.
Regards
Valda
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Hi
Canadian Home Children
Surname Given Name Age Sex Ship Year of Arrival
ELAMS Albert 9 M Labrador 1897
A Doctor Barnardoes child
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/001015-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=46259&&PHPSESSID=7mgutpht9mcpc5l6g30rl8bgh1
Regards
Valda
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Hi
1861 census RG9 458 folio 37
Hanworth ? ? Hampton Middlesex
Richard Ellam 38 Head Married Farm Labourer
Rebecca Ellam 35 Wife Married
Eliza Ellam 12 Daughter
Richard Ellam 10 Son
William Ellam 8 Son
Elizabeth Ellam 5 Daughter
George Ellam 3 Son
Charles Ellam 11 Months Son
all born Hampton
Births Jun 1860
ELLA[M_]S Charles Kingston 2a 215
1871 census RG10 865 folio 70
?mans Lane Hampton Middlesex
Richard Ellams 47 Head Married Labourer agricultural
Rebecca Ellams 45 Wife Married Laundress Hanworth Middlesex
George Ellams 14 Son Labourer Hampton Middlesex
Charles Ellams 11 Son Hampton Middlesex
Thomas Ellams 2 Son Hampton Middlesex
Not sure what happened to Charles
Walter Jackson Ellams (on the 1911 census according to the index) is in Kingston registration district. Surname is transcribe in the index as Ellarias. He is not in an institution.
You cannot request lookups from the 1911 census on Rootschat because of copyright reasons. You must search the census for yourself.
http://www.1911census.co.uk/
Regards
Valda
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Thank you so much Valda. I really appreciate your time and efforts on my behalf.
Anne
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Oh WOW Valda,I never thought to look for them with just one L ;D
Talking of Walter in 1911- lucky lad hey? Hope he liked the ladies 8)
Carol
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A possible trace of Albert William Ellams, as I can't see him in Canadian censuses or WWI records (there is "a" Albert Ellams but his birth date and next of kin/birthplace on WWI records is wrong)
In US Navy, enlisted 1907:
http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/action/ExternalIdSearch?id=3268273&Gsm&jScript=true
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Tried to do a search for Eliza and Walter on 1911 census - no record found. Now after your comment Carol I will have to pursue it.
Thanks again everyone.
Anne
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Walter Jackson Ellams (on the 1911 census according to the index) is in Kingston registration district. Surname is transcribe in the index as Ellarias. He is not in an institution.
Regards
Valda
Anne ,if you spell his surname the way Valda has said you should find it okay.
He's the only chap with a load of ladies ;D
Carol
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Really frustrating, but I can't get a response - always no record found. Can you give me the street name for Walter and Eliza in 1911 and maybe I can find them that way?
Thank you
Anne
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Anne
Am sending you a PM.
Carol ;)
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Eliza Jane and Emily Alice appear to be together on the 1911 census in Kensington - surname spelt Ellams.
Regards
Valda
Anne,
I know you are having trouble finding the rest of the Ellams family in 1911.
Did you read this that Valda found for you back on the 5th May?
Just Ellen to look for then.....she marries in Hammersmith in 1919 so shouldn't be too far away.Will reply to your PM in the morning.
Regards
Carol
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Eliza Jane Ellams married George R Bowden in Fulham in Dec 1929.
Ref 1a page 857.
She would have been quite old by then....so not sure if it's the same one,but it's a fairly unusual name.
Could this be her death?
Sep 1938 in Kensington
Eliza J BOWDEN age 83 ref 1a 157
Carol
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Just Ellen to look for then.....she marries in Hammersmith in 1919 so shouldn't be too far away.
Regards
Carol
Just for completeness,I found Ellen as a servant and have PM'd the info to Anne.
Carol
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Hi Carol
I think this must be right regarding Eliza & George Bowden. I was told by my aunt that Eliza remarried and lived in Fulham in the signalman's cottage, Seagrave Road. I looked George up in 1901 and he was living in a cottage in Seagrave Road and was a carman. These were usually linked to the railway so it all seems to make sense. Also Ellen May her daughter listed her address as Seagrave Rd when she married so there seems to be a family link.
Thank you again for your efforts.
Anne