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Title: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Jennyalogy on Monday 03 May 10 23:12 BST (UK)
Good morning,

I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with a marriage record in Alverstoke please.

My Gx3 Grandparents Thomas WARRINER ch Kirby Moorside, Yorkshire and Phillis WILDS ch Edenbridge, Kent had their first [known] child in Sunderland, Durham in 1783.

The only marriage I have been able to find, which MIGHT be theirs, is a marriage in IGI of
Thomas WARRANNAR & Phillis WILDS 16 OCT 1780   Alverstoke, Hampshire.

I was wondering if someone would be able to check this record, to see if there is any mention of where this couple were from please.

Best wishes,
Jennyalogy
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: patrish on Monday 03 May 10 23:23 BST (UK)
They normally just say whether of the parish not actual place names.  :(
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Jennyalogy on Tuesday 04 May 10 19:35 BST (UK)
Hi Patrish,

Yes, I realise most early marriages do just say if of the Parish the couple is marrying in, but sometimes the place the parties are from is recorded.

I was hoping to be so lucky with this couple ;-)

Thank you very much for your reply which I appreciate.

Kind regards,
Jennyalogy
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: patrish on Wednesday 05 May 10 00:20 BST (UK)
I checked the Knightsroot site for Alverstoke & Gosport but couldent see the marriage you are looking for  :(
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Little Nell on Wednesday 05 May 10 13:50 BST (UK)
I've found the marriage in a register transcript but unfortunately it is only a basic transcript.  I've checked the marriage licence allegations for Hampshire, but there is no entry.  There is an entry in Pallot's but nothing to indicate if it took place by licence or where the couple came from.

I should perhaps have asked how you arrived at Phillis' maiden name if you have not yet located the marriage.  The combination of the names cannot be very common and I would be inclined proceed (with caution) that this is the marriage.

If the couple married by banns, then it means that they were living in Alverstoke at the time and fulfilled the residency requirements. 

Nell
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Kaz- on Thursday 06 May 10 12:40 BST (UK)
Hi - I'm planning to go to Hampshire Record office tomorrow and will have a quick check of the Alverstoke fiches for you
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Jennyalogy on Thursday 06 May 10 21:03 BST (UK)
Hi Kaz,

Thank you for your wonderful offer, it's so very kind of you.

All the best,
Jennyalogy
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Kaz- on Thursday 06 May 10 21:05 BST (UK)
That's OK - it should at least have witness names to add to what you already have.
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Jennyalogy on Thursday 06 May 10 21:55 BST (UK)
Hi Kaz,

Witnesses names could be so very helpful.

Thanks,
Jennalogy
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Jennyalogy on Thursday 06 May 10 23:36 BST (UK)
To Patrish & Little Nell,

I wrote to you yesterday but before I could get the email sent my internet session was finished, so I lost it.

I had been told that Phillis's maiden name was WILDS, and since then Parents and birthplaces of both Thomas & Phillis were recorded in the Baptism of one of their children at Kirby Moorside, Yorkshire - which confirmed the information.

Thank you very much for your help which I certainly appreciate.

All the best,
Jennyalogy
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Kaz- on Friday 07 May 10 15:05 BST (UK)
Well, I checked the marriage entry:

Entry No.99 Page 107

Thomas Warrannar & Phillis Wilds both of this Parish
Married in this Church by Banns 16th October 1780

Both signed their own names Thomas Warrannar
Philys Wilds

In the Presence of Wm Neilson?  Joseph Orange? or Grange?  Both witness signatures were tricky to read!

These witnesses are not on any other marriages for a few pages either side so they are likely to be known to the couple rather than just being the churchwarden...

Hope that helps in some way!
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: Jennyalogy on Friday 07 May 10 20:22 BST (UK)
Hi Kaz,

The Witnesses might have been friends, but I haven't come across the names in any data relating to Thomas and Phillis which is a shame.
 
I still might not be 100% sure that the couple is my Gx3 Grandparents, but thanks to your kindness I have learned two extra snippets:-
That Thomas and Phillis DID definitely marry at St. Marys, and that both could write.

I FEEL it is the couple I'm wanting, but that tiny clue I need to make it fact is so elusive, and without that I cannot really claim this couple {though I can keep them on side ;-).

Thank you very much for looking them up for me, I really appreciate all your help.

Sincerely,
Jennyalogy
Title: Re: St. Mary's Alverstoke Marriage Register, WARRINER/WILDS
Post by: maudie may on Wednesday 13 October 10 23:43 BST (UK)
Hi I have just read through your messages And I think Thomas's father is my 5x greatgrand father. I have Thomas as being baptised 7th June 1759 at Kirbymoorside parish. If this matches please get in touch as I have some information on his mothers side of the family, but please give me a couple of weeks as I am going to Kirbymoorside next week for a hoilday, and I might just find out a bit more :-). Sue