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Title: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: GUnderwood on Monday 03 May 10 21:43 BST (UK)
Can SKS plese see if William Kingsmill is listed in the Brabourne Baptisms around 1812 please.  Father is thought to be Comfort Kingsmill.
Thank you
Chris
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: lisingreece on Tuesday 04 May 10 07:06 BST (UK)
I could not see a William s/Comfort Kingsmill in Brabourne.
Comfort and Rebecca do have Sarah in 1819 and Thomas in 1821 but no one earlier.
Sorry
Lis
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: lisingreece on Tuesday 04 May 10 08:08 BST (UK)
There is a William Kingsmill c in Smeeth in 1812.. 6th Jan s/Thomas & Charlotte.

Is this your man?
Do you want more?

Lis
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: lisingreece on Tuesday 04 May 10 08:12 BST (UK)
William has a brother Comfort born Smeeth, in 1809, so must be part of your Comfort Kingsmill family.

Lis
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: GUnderwood on Tuesday 04 May 10 08:23 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for looking into this family Lis.
The William and other Kingsmills of Smeeth are related cousins.  This William from Brabourne remains a mystery.   In the censuses his birthplace is Brabourne 1811/12 and in later ones his daughter Ann (b1854) is shown as the grandchild of Comfort (b1783).  Comfort Kingsmill and Rebecca Crayford married in 1814 so I wondered if he was the son from an earlier as yet unknown relationship of Comfort's.  Of course his father might not have been listed if William was illegitimate at the time.

Chris
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: lisingreece on Wednesday 05 May 10 13:08 BST (UK)
I have sent you a private message

Lis
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: lisingreece on Wednesday 05 May 10 17:01 BST (UK)
Have now found him!!
You were right, he is there as son of Rebecca Crayford c 5/3/1815 Rebecca is A brabourne servant.

Lis
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: lisingreece on Wednesday 05 May 10 17:09 BST (UK)
This is strange as the marriage between Comfort Kingsmill and Rebecca Crayford took place in December 1814 and yet William is born to Rebecca Crayford in 1815, Why??
Am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: GUnderwood on Wednesday 05 May 10 20:48 BST (UK)
Fantastic many thanks!  But confusing!  Is it 1815?  The IGI shows a daughter Mary baptised 25 Mar 1815 at Sellinge to Rebecca and Comfort.  The marriage cert shows Comfort's parish as Sellinge.  From the censuses they seem to have 10 children the last being a William in ~1837 (Elmsted) which further confounds things since the first William lived until 1875 and second to 1876.  I do not have a baptism for the William of ~1837 and the others are from a mixture of parishes.  Maybe the first William only took on the surname Kingsmill in later life.  I cannot find him in the 1841 census despite much searching.

Chris
Title: Re: Brabourne Baptisms - KINGSMILL
Post by: lisingreece on Thursday 06 May 10 07:31 BST (UK)
If William had been born around 1812 it surely would have been written on the baptism record that he was an older child.
Apart from there being 2 Comfort and Rebeccas which is so unlikely, William must have been born before the marriage,  oh a mystery..... I hope you get to the bottom of it.

 all the best
Lis