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Title: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: Rilla on Sunday 25 April 10 07:59 BST (UK)
John Bird apparently married Eliza(beth) Cobley nee Goodrich  c1833/4 probably in Wigston Magna or Anstey where he was a schoolmaster (parish register 1834) I have Eliza's marriage to Thomas Cobley 4/6/1832 Then baptism of Selina Bird at Anstey Leics 24/8/1834  Both Jojn & Eliza were born c 1806
I would be very grateful if someone could solve this mystery for me
Rills
Title: Re: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Sunday 25 April 10 22:04 BST (UK)
Greeting’s & Welcome. Rills.

The only Eliza Goodrich marriage to a John 1833./34. :~

1833.
St Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester


John Hobson. ~ Eliza Goodrich.
6th. July.
By Banns.

Confirmation of Pariah Events :~

1832.
All Saints Parish Church.
Wigston Magna
.

Thomas Cobley of the Parish of North Kilworth. Bachelor.

ELIZABETH Goodrich. Of this Parish Spinster.

14th. June.
By Banns.

Occupations did not appear on Marriage Registers till 1837.

I could not see a burial for Thomas Cobley......

BAPTISMS :~

St: Mary’s Parish Church Anstey
.
ALL with Father John Bird. School Master. 
Mother :~ ELIZABETH Bird.

1834. Selina. Daughter. Bapt.24th. August.
Buried 7th. May.1840. Aged. 5 ¾.

1835. Harriett. Daughter. .Bapt… 25th. December.

1837. John Whitman Bird. Son……Bapt. 17th. September.

1839. William Whitman Bird. Son……Bapt. 17th. November.

1842. Arthur. Son. Bapt…….8th. May
     
John was also the 1841. Census Enumerator See Attachment.

MIKE……… 
Title: Re: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: Rilla on Sunday 02 May 10 08:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Mike for your unfo and the welcome.
I have William Whiteman's birth cetificate which states that hiElizaor Elizabeth's maiden name was Goodrich.  I am wondering if rhe fact that she married in a non-conformist church before 1842 (when such mattiages were recognised) has any bearing on the matter
Rilla
Title: Re: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: Rilla on Tuesday 27 September 11 11:35 BST (UK)
Hi everybody especially Mike who looked up info for me before.  Today I found a marriage for John Bird and Eliza Goodrich at Northampton on 13 August 1833.  This is on the Family Search site and has only recently appeared.  No church is named which surprised me a bit.  I'd be grateful if someone could check this for me.  Eliza seems to have abandoned her married name of Cobley and I wonder what happened to Thomas!  More importantly possibly was the fact that Eliza was bequeathed 250 pounds in her grandfather's will (Thomas Whiteman died 1829)  Did Thomas take the money and run?   John Bird was a schoolmaster in Anstey in 1834  (parish register)How can I obtain a copy of this parish record - I'd like to know the details on the record and who were witnesses.
Thsnk you everybody for your help and encouragement
Rilla
Title: Re: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: diddymiller on Tuesday 27 September 11 14:14 BST (UK)
google books has some info about John as schoolmaster:

http://books.google.com/books?id=U9lbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA420&dq=anstey+schoolmaster+%22john+bird+%22&hl=en&ei=l8qBTqnAOYzKsga1gs23Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

named bottom of page 420 but all relevent
Diddy
Title: Re: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: Rilla on Thursday 29 September 11 05:55 BST (UK)
Thank you very much diddymiller Wonderful to get such info
Rilla
Title: Re: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: seahall on Friday 30 September 11 22:49 BST (UK)
HI All.

Rills the marriage is noted on the Northants Marriage Index.

Moreton Pinkney By License
13 Aug 1833
John BIRD   of Ansty, Leics, bachelor to Eliza GOODRICH otp, spinster

Sandy      
Title: Re: Look up please John Bird marriage c1833
Post by: Rilla on Sunday 02 October 11 01:11 BST (UK)
Sandy
Thank you very much for that information.  It seems Eliza  may have committed bigamy as she had married 14 month's earlier in Wigston Magna - which would also explain being married by licence rather than by banns! and in another county
Rilla