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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: msr on Saturday 24 April 10 10:18 BST (UK)
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Hello Canada,
I've posted the following in Scotland forum but because I know that at least 3 of this family were in Alberta 1914-16 I am hoping to get some help here.
I know there's an army of RC'rs waiting for a challenge. If any of you can help me I would greatly appreciate it.
Trying to trace what happened to the following family:
Margaret Graham Roy b Glasgow 1880
Charles Roy b 1882
Eliza Roy b 1883
William Graham Roy b 1886
Jessie Ann Roy b 1889
Frederick (David?)and twin Douglas Forrester Roy b 1890
Arthur P(otts?) Roy b 1892
Last known address in 1901 was 5 Westbank Quadrant,Glasgow. Margaret was head of house, I can't find parents anywhere in 1901, perhaps dead. Mother was from Cheshire but can't find them visiting any of family.I have found Fred, Douglas and Charles in Edmonton, Alberta through Ancestry Military. Fred joined Canadian Army 1914, Douglas 1916, Charles named next of kin; don't know after that. Did all the family move to Canada perhaps? or can any kind person find any still in UK.
I'll post on Canada forum in the hope that someone may be able to help with immigration and onwards.
Can anyone help please?
Living in hope
Susan
ps if any Bartlett in Vancouver originally from Lancashire is reading this, we may be related ;)
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www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html
www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/index.asp
Fred D. Roy, Regimental # 559
b. Dec. 8, 1890, Bookkeeper, next of kin - Douglas Roy, Brother
410 Fifth St., Edmonton, Alta
Douglas Forrester Roy, Regimental # 911417
b. 08/12/1890, next of kin - Charles Roy
11409 123rd St, Edmonton, Alta
You can view the attestation papers at the above site and can also order the complete military files on Fred and Douglas at the same site using a credit card. The cost is quite reasonable and can contain a lot of information including death certificates in some circumstances.
The Great War Project has Frederick David Roy listed and gives more information on him. You can search on the site using his regiment #, shows that he was PPCLI, Canadian Pay Corps and was wounded. This site is contantly being updated and more information added as they receive it.
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http://automatedgenealogy.com
1911 Census of Canada
1911/Alberta/Edmonton/55 Edmonton/page 18
lines 42 and 46
Douglas Roy, b. 1890, immigrated 1903, roomer
Frederick Roy, immigrated 1911
1911/Alberta/Edmonton/51 Edmonton/page 12
Charles Roy, head, b. 1881, immigrated 1903
Harriett Roy, wife, b. Alta
The address appears to be Fifth St., Edmonton
You can click on split screen at the top of the page and it will bring up the original documents that you can check for more information such as religion, occupation, etc. I am fairly certain these are your family. I didn't find any other Roy's but the females could have been married and immigrated under married surname.
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www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
This is a great site for researching Scot ancestors and may be helpful in your search for those that remained in Scotland.
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Thanks for response Valerie
I have seen the attestation papers as hints for my tree on Ancestry. Thats how I knew that these 3 had come to Canada.
The other links you provide are completely new to me, and I thank you so much for your help. I will have to check them out later.
I hope to find the rest of the family at some point. Interesting to see that Charles was married, Harriet is a new person to me, don't know where Alta is. Is that short for Alberta or an actual place I wonder. To be researched.
Thanks again
Susan :)
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Alta is short for Alberta.
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If you go to the section Canada Resources at the top of the page you might find some sites to search for obituaries and graves for Alberta. There are quite a few different sites listed for research.
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On the 1916 census for the prairie provinces of Canada Charles Roy, 33, b. Scotland, Anglican, accountant married to Harriet C. Roy, 27, b. Canada living at 11409 123 St. Edmonton. This link will let you search Edmonton directories and also newspaper indexes for obituaries. The obituaries would then have to be ordered and it is a pay service.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abwcobit/index.htm
Choosing 1925 at random you find Fred D. Roy, clerk for CNR (Canadian National Railway) living at 12316 118 Ave. Edmonton and Chas Roy, accountant for Scona Creamery Co. living at 11409 123 St. Edmonton.
Douglas Forester Roy sailed home from WWI on the Olympic departing Southampton arriving Halifax 13 Jun 1919. Religon Presbyterian going to brother in Edmonton.
Possibility for Fred Roy's arrival in Canada on the Virginia leaving Liverpool and arriving Halifax, N.S. 11 March 1911. Age 20, single, b. Scotland, Church of Scotland, destination Edmonton, occupation clerk.
http://www.afhs.ab.ca/data/cemeteries/search.php
http://webproxy.edmonton.ca/external/cemeteries/default.aspx
There are no BMDs for Alberta online. You have to try and find traces of relatives in other ways for this province.
Debbie
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Hi Debbie and Valerie
Thanks for input. I've been under orders to stay away from computer for a couple of days, just popped in briefly for an update.
Will look into thes leads as soon as I dare. (family concerned about me, had some sort of forgetful episode on Saturday, frightened us all)
Have to go now, will be back.
Susan
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I hope all is better now, Susan! :)
In case anyone can find a marriage, parents are: William Roy & Janet Ann Potts (a.k.a. Jessie)
from other thread/Scotland http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,452215.msg3140395.html
Douglas Forrester Roy / death Sept. 27, 1941 Easton, Kittitas, Washington
Age 50 years 9 months 19 days (born circa 1891)
William Roy & Jessie Potts
1905 Medium length article on Frederick David Roy, wounded in ww1...(pay site)
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abwcobit/Data/Papers/1915E/Article1915EPage17.html
Or you can order the fellows' full military files using the attestation information you found, same site.
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G''day, I'm looking for family of Campbell Roy transport to Van Demons Land, Australia ....
Campbell was born 1808
we think his dad was Charles Roy, & in the army
his grandmother was Mary
he had an uncle John ( house Painter)
we don't know his mother
they may have moved a lot, depending on his posting
I'm new to this so please bare with me, if I'm not doing it right
I am 5th generation Aussie Roy's
hope someone can help :)
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Welcome to rootschat...
Yes you are on the Canada board, and replying on someone else's thread, so I'll see if you can be moved to Scotland board...
This site says Campbell Roy was born 11 Jun 1808, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Left Portsmouth 5/1/1825 arrived 18/4/1825. Granted conditional pardon 13/6/1837.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kiwiadams/59390.html