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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: DarrenMW on Saturday 24 April 10 07:10 BST (UK)
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Just hoping there is something that may show any family in and/or around Mossley which is only a smallish place.?
Also, more generally under which juristiction would births have been registered in those days? County Antrim? Ballyhenry,Newtonabbey???? thanks.
I know McAlister was settled in Portsmouth England from 1900 at the latest, and MAY have joined the army as early as 1893.
many thanks indeed
Darren
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Hi,
There is a Thomas McAlister, b 14-2-1875, in Tobergill, Donegore Parish, Antrim District. His parents were Thomas McAlister and Jennet/Janet Boyd. Another child is listed, Malcolm born 25 May 1864.
Regards
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WOW! That's amazing! Malcolm is a common family name in the Thomas McAlister that I am tracing!
Is the information you have in the public domain?
I am sincerely grateful for all you have taken the time to share, and for any additional data or direction you may be able to provide.
I am thrilled...thanks!
edit: I checked on the map, and a very liberal estimate is around 10 miles from Tobergill to Mossley (where McAlister declared he was born on a later English census)...that seems viable.
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IGI Family search
Thomas McAlister b. Connor, Antrim abt. 1838
Janet Boyd b. Connor, Antrim abt. 1842
married in Connor, Antrim . 1863
Malcolm McAlister b. 25.5.1864 Connor, Antrim, Ireland
then almost 11 year gap until Thomas McAlister jr is born in Feb 1875? i wonder if we're missing anyone.
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Darren,
My source was the IGI which you have found. Be wary of the dates as these are submitted records and not Extracted records which are more accurate. I have also checked Emerald Ancestors between 1864 and 1874 with no success.
Regards
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Well sincere thanks again for your resulkts and the additional efforts you made at Emerald Ancestors.
Much appreciated.
Darren
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Hi
I found the following information on Familysearch Pilot site. You can use the informaion to order a birth certificate from GRONI www.groni.gov.uk .
Name: Thomas M'Alister
Registration District: Antrim
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: 1875
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 29
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
John
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Searching for children of Thomas McAlister and Jane Boyd in IGI (www.familysearch.org) brings up 3 children- at least one is submitted entry and it can't be assumed these all belong to one family since McAlister and Boyd are both very common Antrim surnames.
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Hi,
Following Aghadowey's hint I entered Thomas McALLISTER and Jane Boyd and found the three other children. William John born 26 Aug 1863, Female McAlister 15 Dec 1866 and Jennet 25 May 1869. Spelling was McAllister/McAlister but all born Antrim or Connor Antrim.
Regards
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Thank you all for your continued assistance.
John - I shall certainly order that cert...thanks for the link.
The Thomas I am searching (b.1875) name his first son 'William John Thomas George McAlister'...after his Uncle?...an encouraging, if common, conection in names.
'Boyd' is used as a middle name for one of Thomas McAlister jr (b.1875) grandsons....and one of McAlisters daughters was Jeanette ( a varient of Jenet?)
AGHADOWEY - Thanks for the info, interesting to know McAlister and Boyd are both common in Antrim. I had searched McAlister and found a high proportion came from Antrim, but didn't know about Boyd.
the various spellings of McAlister muddies the waters a little..
I'm not a experienced on the viability of IGI.....is there anyway to determine accuracy or is it all simply on the strength of someone typing in the names without proof.
Again, many thanks all......
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There are 2 types of IGI records- extracted and submitted. In general, extracted records should be more accurate although need to be checked with original source (there are a whole batch of Ballymoney, Co.Antrim records listed as Cork! and have seen mistakes with spellings of names and places). Submitted records vary.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but I tried these search parameters and the only one i see is the marriage in Connor...I know i am doing something incorrectly with the search settings, but can't fathom it ::)
I wanted to review the 3 children you so kindly mentioned.
Thanks in advance, and sorry to be a pain!
Darren
Searching for children of Thomas McLaiter and Jane Boyd in IGI (www.familysearch.org) brings up 3 children- at least one is submitted entry and it can't be assumed these all belong to one family since McAlister and Boyd are both very common Antrim surnames.
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On LDS advanced search page fill in Thomas McAlister for name of father and Jane Boyd for name of mother and NOTHING else- then click on search button and see 3 children listed under IGI.
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Are the children mentioned in replies #7 and #8 of this thread duplicates, or potentially 6 children?
Thanks
Ok, i found the 3 children you mentioned,...thank you..I just needed coffee!
Are we thinking there another 3?, or just 3 in total
On LDS advanced search page fill in Thomas McAlister for name of father and Jane Boyd for name of mother and NOTHING else- then click on search button and see 3 children listed under IGI.
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Same 3 children.
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Ok,...thank you!
I notice William John marries in Australia aged 24,......I was thinking 'transportation', but that seems awfully young to have already served a setence and be free to marry. I will check into that, as I'm not sure how commonplace voluntary emmigration to Australia was!
update: William John marries Isabelle Cairns Bell in Charters Town , Queensland 1887.
Quick search shows that it was a booming gold rush town settlement, in those days....interesting story beckons!
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Aren't William's details submitted? Remember may not be correct.
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yes it seems so, there is a lot of data recorded regariding 'films' and 'locations of records' etc. and I'm not certain exactly what that pertains to.
there is a name and address of the submitter in Australia, so that will be a great starting point for me.
You've been a wonderful help....thank you.
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If it is any help Darren, transportation finished about 1846, this was followed by a period of 'assissted passages' where it was possible to get to Australia from England Scotland and Ireland for as little as 6 pounds. There are some listings for assisted arrivals for NSW and Victoria. I don't know about Queensland but could be worth checking.
Wyanga
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Thanks John - Do Birth certs from Ireland show the parents info etc like British ones do?
1875 was long before the division of Ireland, so I guess the records should be similar to the mainland?
Many thanks!
Hi
I found the following information on Familysearch Pilot site. You can use the informaion to order a birth certificate from GRONI www.groni.gov.uk .
Name: Thomas M'Alister
Registration District: Antrim
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: 1875
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 29
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
John
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Wyanga - Thanks very much. At this stage, ahve done so mid level reseach, I have pretty much ruled out the Australian connection unfortunately, though this is no reflection at all on the assistance you and others have so kindly provided.
It is much appreciated.
Darren
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See here for information on Irish birth certificates-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html
and here for ordering certificates for N.I. counties-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,383526.0.html