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Title: Murphy Cole Connection & Civil Registration Index
Post by: kathrynbax on Friday 23 April 10 19:40 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out more information about my great-grandmother Teresa MURPHY who married George COLE in 1849.

The only thing I have is the Civil Registration Index. I am trying to find out if it has the name of his and her father on these entries as seen below. I would appreciate a look-up by some kind soul as I live in the United Arab Emirates with no access to records.

Thanks in advance
Kathryn

Name: Teresa Murphy
Registration district: Waterford
Record type: MARRIAGES
Registration date: 1849
Volume: 10
Page: 620

Name: George Cole
Registration district: Waterford
Record type: MARRIAGES
Registration date: 1849
Volume: 10
Page: 620
Title: Re: Murphy Cole Connection & Civil Registration Index
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 23 April 10 19:52 BST (UK)
Father's names are almost always included on marriage certs but there's no way to see the additional details without ordering a cert from the GRO - see 2 Minute Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) for details on included on certs, ordering etc

be aware that since the marriage is before full registration started in 1864 it is either non-Catholic or in a registry office.


Shane
Title: Re: Murphy Cole Connection & Civil Registration Index
Post by: kathrynbax on Friday 23 April 10 20:57 BST (UK)
Thank Shane for your quick reply. The fact that it may be a Non-Catholic marriage or in a registry, would that make any difference to the type of information I might find on the certificate?
Title: Re: Murphy Cole Connection & Civil Registration Index
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 23 April 10 21:45 BST (UK)
no - same details either way.

I only mentioned that detail in case you were specifically searching for a Catholic family.


Shane
Title: Re: Murphy Cole Connection & Civil Registration Index
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 23 April 10 22:15 BST (UK)
possibly connected..Slater's 1846 Directory shows :

  Christopher Bolton Cole, corn & flour merchant, 3 Queen st, Waterford
 
see:  http://www.failteromhat.com/slater/0121.pdf  (top left of left-hand page)
He is the only Cole listing I see in the Waterford City section of the directory. The homepage for the full directory is at : http://www.failteromhat.com/slater.htm

IGI (www.familysearch.org) confirms the marriage with a full date .. but no other details :

 Name : George Cole
 Spouse: Teresa Murphy    
 Marriage: 03 Sep 1849, Ireland
   

Shane
Title: Re: Murphy Cole Connection & Civil Registration Index
Post by: kathrynbax on Saturday 24 April 10 05:00 BST (UK)
Hi Shane

Thanks for those, although I had already seen them while researching this family. This Cole is no relation that I know of, as from his South African death notice he was born in England and wasn't Irish. Only Teresa was. Now with a name like MURPHY it is no easy task to research. As it is I have been cursed with SMITH in my tree too.  :)

As you say, I will just have to put my hand in my pocket and get the marriage certificate if I want to know any more.

Many thanks for all your help.
Kathyn