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Just received this info in an e-mail.
Finally, we have it on very good authority (Sharon Hintze, of the LDS
church speaking at the Guild of One Name Studies Conference this
April) that the IGI is going to be totally re-launched in a new format
either later in 2010 or in 2011, with the extracted entries separated
from the member submitted entries.
That's a good move, because I find it really annoying when I think I might have found an ancestor to find that the info has been submitted.
Lizzie
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I think this would be the link to it https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/unsec/welcome however after I registered, and acknowledged the email, it seems that it's not yet ready after all, and we are to look for announcements.
It will be useful if all those user submitteds were weeded out, a lot of them annoyed me - especially when finding a marriage of a Joe Bloggs to a "Mrs" Bloggs. >:( Just how useful is that!!
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marriage of a Joe Bloggs to a "Mrs" Bloggs
Yes that type of thing is useless. At least the submitted ones that give dates, places and full names can be checked out.
Not sure about having to re-register. Maybe I'll just wait and see what happens.
Lizzie
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I think they also need to make their search engine a bit better like entering just a last name and country rather than have to add the first name as well.
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I think they also need to make their search engine a bit better like entering just a last name and country rather than have to add the first name as well.
I expect that they are waiting for a volunteer to make the enhancements. It is after all a free site.
David
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You can search I.G. with surname and country only already- just click on IGI link on left side of search page- think this also works for PRF, etc. if you search on the individual pages rather that basic or advances search pages..
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Thanks.
Is the IGI ever updated in terms of extracted records being put onto it?
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Is the IGI ever updated in terms of extracted records being put onto it?
This was posted on The Ancestry Insider (http://ancestryinsider.blogspot.com/2009_07_01_archive.html) in July last year:
IGI Dies Without Fanfare
This week saw another significant, yet unheralded milestone. On Monday the final two temples feeding data into the venerable International Genealogy Index (IGI) switched to the new recording system used by NFS. I assume no new data will be added to the IGI. At an appropriate, as yet undecided, future date, it will be removed from the FamilySearch.org website.[/list]
It goes on to say that it is being replaced with the New FamilySearch, with the extracted and submitted records being separated, etc.
K.
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All very interesting. So who is doing the pilot pages? I'm surprised that the info on there is not on the normal IGI and vice versa.
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They tried a while ago and again more recently to get family history societies to transcribe Parish Registers, unfortunately there were no takers.
One of the items on the Pilot scheme is the Irish BMD Registers, so presumably whatever they can get their hands on, already transcribed, is what is going up there.
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presumably whatever they can get their hands on, already transcribed, is what is going up there.
The Durham Diocesan Bishops Transcripts are on the Pilot Site. They are in scanned form, i.e. not transcribed or searchable by keyword. However, they are a tremendous boon to researchers with an interest in Durham and Northumberland.
Durham Wills are also to go on the pilot site, hopefully later this year. These have apparently been indexed and will be searchable by name and place, after which one will be able to a view a digital image of the actual document. http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/index.htm
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I have used the Durham records on the Pilot site and they have proven very helpful.
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I found the Cheshire ones somewhere, ages ago, it might have been the Pilot scheme, not sure how long that's been running, and they were copies of the originals. I found my g.grandmother's baptism.
Lizzie
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Is it the intention that the "submissions" will still be available to researchers outside of the Mormon church but separated from the extracted records? I ask because there are apparently major alterations to be made to Legacy 7 in the fairly near future, members of LDS already have access while outsiders do not yet have it.
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I shall be glad the the Pilot site adds more Pennsylvania records and Oxfordshire records.
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Roger
Have you got Legacy 7 de-luxe or the free download? I have the de-luxe and there was an update yesterday so that I now have Legacy 7.4. There were lots of alterations, the most obvious being that each name on the family page now has two arrows in the name box one above the other, one facing left and one facing right. If you click on them you are taken to the first screen, (first photo) where it does a search for any matches with the names on the LHS (I clicked on one of my ancestors), then it takes you to the second screen (second photo).
Lizzie
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Lizzie, I parted with money to buy Legacy 7, so I have the deluxe. Last time I was in I declined to check for an update as I was pressed for time, and the net was very slow so I left it. Will download this afternoon. Thanks for info.
Roger
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Roger
Hope I've caught you in time. I've just downloaded an update of the update!! There were some hitches with the update I downloaded a few days ago, one being the font size wouldn't stay set, so I ended up with the Family page and others in gigantic font size and the home page in a font size so small I couldn't read it. Anyway I'm now on Version: 7.4.0.38. which I expect is the one you'll find on your home page. If not go to their website and download that one.
If you've got relationships set, i.e. self, wife, mother, father etc. you will have to re-set those, but that's easy enough, Tools, Set Relationship.
Lizzie
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Thanks Lizzie, You were too late, I did it when I left Rootschat last night, luckily the download is now 7.4.038 so hopefully no problem. Will find out soon anyway.
Roger
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Hi Roger
Version: 7.4.0.38 seems to be fine, apart from the index which, as with all upgrades, reverts to default settings. I have extra columns for birth/christening date and place, extra wives, etc. It's easy enough to add them back in though.
At least the problem with the font size has been sorted.
Lizzie
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All very interesting. So who is doing the pilot pages? I'm surprised that the info on there is not on the normal IGI and vice versa.
The transcriptions for the pilot site are being done by volunteers - many of us have nothing to do with the LDS - we just want the data available asap! I worked on the Cheshire data that is now online and am currently working on parish registers from the Isle of Man, Essex, more Cheshire registers, Warwickshire and Bristol. Anyone can volunteer - and do as little or as much as you want to - the more that do, the quicker the data will be available!
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That is all god then. The Pilot site is getting better as I have found a few London burials I didn't find even on the LMA records on Ancestry.
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Anyone can volunteer - and do as little or as much as you want to - the more that do, the quicker the data will be available!
I'd love to volunteer, but already transcribing other records. How much time each day do you spend on the transcriptions?
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Some days more than others, and I only do it when I have the time - it really is up to the individual how long they spend - no one will hassle you over it! I arbitrate as well so a post 1812 baptism or burial batch might only take 5 minutes - fits in to a coffee break quite nicely. A batch (typically one or two pages of a register) has a time limit of one week to be completed, but it saves your work as you go, and if you don't finish it, another indexer will pick it up and finish the remaining lines. An early parish register will obviously take a lot longer to complete - they estimate that each batch is an hour's work, but in my experience that is over optimistic with some of the early pages and way longer than it would take to enter a post 1837 marriage page!
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Thanks Kaz.
Lizzie
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A new website appears to have been launched - seems to be the same records as on the pilot site but presented differently:
http://fsbeta.familysearch.org
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I wonder why that is?
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I think this is the site which will be replacing both the pilot site and the old familysearch site - once it's ready. Sometimes there are images on the new site that have been unavailable on the pilot site. It's all just in beta at the moment though and so things can appear and disappear.
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Interesting to hear.
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A new website appears to have been launched - seems to be the same records as on the pilot site but presented differently:
http://fsbeta.familysearch.org
Just had a look and the first query I entered returned my 3rd gt-grandfather as a 13 yr old girl in 1841 !!
Going back to the submissions on the IGI .. I had my family on a website - over 2000 entries. Some person who shall remain nameless took all my information and not only put it on THEIR website, but also submitted my ancestors to the IGI, obviously without the sources and proof that I had spent years and $$ researching.
Now when I go to the IGI looking for any possible new entries etc., I always get these damn submissions ... yes, I'm annoyed !!
cheers ... Paul
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Thank you to everyone transcribing the Pilot records.
I've found lots of entries to help me.
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The pilot site is probably one of the best free genealogical websites now.