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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: lnr on Thursday 22 April 10 03:47 BST (UK)
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I am looking for Rebecca Mitchell ch. 5 may 1867 Wimbleton eng and her brother William ch 24 feb 1869. Came on ship Zealandia to nz with mother Sarah who died on board, and father Henry, brother George Harrow mitchell whom i know about also sarah my gg grand mother apparently rebecca and william may have been Farmed out as they say.cannot find a marriage for Rebbeca or death. can any one help lnr
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Hi lnr
So this is the family that arrived in Auckland - 15 October 1874 ?
* Did they stay in that area ?
Mmm ... very difficult to find Rebecca and William if they have been "farmed out" and perhaps given new names ?
You mention knowing about "George Harrow MITCHELL".
I see he was the youngest (aged 3 in 1874).
* Was he adopted out too ?
* What became of father Henry - did he re-marry ?
~ Lu
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Hi Lu, I have George Harrow mitchells death died 14 nov 1950. buried waikumete.dont know anything about his life, Father Henry apparently married twice? To Annie Ashby 1893 and Beatrice Adalaide Freeman. Henry James the other son died at 16 on the coromandle. my ggg grandmother was put into service on a farm at Western springs nz where my ggggrandfather george Morrison met her. they married 1879. thanks lnr
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Hi lnr
Do you have the death printout for Henry (the father). ?
Can you tell me please,
* where/when he died
* ages and sex of his living issue (his surviving children)
* if the names of his wives are on the printout - if so, who were they.
~ Lu
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Hi Lu, I have George Harrow mitchells death died 14 nov 1950. buried waikumete.dont know anything about his life,
Father Henry apparently married twice? To Annie Ashby 1893 and Beatrice Adalaide Freeman.
Hi lnr
Hmm ... interesting. ;)
I went looking for more on George Harrow and found a son - James Percy MITCHELL b. 1898, to George Harrow and Annie. [There are 3 other births which are "possibles" for the same couple, but parents listed as just "Annie and George".]
When I searched for a George MITCHELL marriage to an "Annie", all I got was (1893) and "Annie ASHBY" as the bride ? ::)
So, if your family information has this Annie ASHBY in the mix, perhaps this young George remained part of the family ... and it might be that his descendants, know something about Rebecca and William ?
~ Lu
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Son of Annie and George Harrow MITCHELL
1898 - MITCHELL - James Percy
Marriage
James Percy MITCHELL - Leah Mavis KEESING - 1920
Death
1986 - MITCHELL - James Percy - d.o.b. 23 May 1898
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James Percy is also buried at Waikumete.
Died : 13 March 1986 - aged 87 years.
[Couldn't see burials for either wife - Annie or Leah. ]
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Hi lnr
Do you have the death printout for Henry (the father). ?
Can you tell me please,
* where/when he died
* ages and sex of his living issue (his surviving children)
* if the names of his wives are on the printout - if so, who were they.
~ Lu
From a family tree on ancestry.com
Henry Mitchell 1832 - 1886
m. 1860 Sarah HARROW, Lambeth ( -1874)
Sarah Maria MITCHELL 1861 – 1918
Henry James Mitchell 1863 –
Rebecca Mitchell 1864 –
William Mitchell 1869 –
George Harrow MITCHELL 1870 –
Infant Mitchell 1874 –
Henry m. Elizabeth Heatley Auckland 1875
Simon
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Looks like Henry James died in NZ 1879 aged 16y.
Simon
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:) Is this MITCHELL tree on ancestry, one which is viewable to the public ?
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:) Is this MITCHELL tree on ancestry, one which is viewable to the public ?
I think it is a public tree, but am not sure whether one needs to be a subscriber to see it. I searched using "George Harrow Mitchell" as the search term.
Simon
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Cheers Simon. :)
Mmm ... lnr
"Henry MITCHELL" deaths on NZ index are for 1882 (55 yrs) and 1884 (51 yrs). ???
Rebecca MITCHELL shows on 1871 census as being a 4-year-old (bc 1867). ???
Added: FREE BMD - BIRTH -- MAR -- 1867
MITCHELL - Rebecca -- Reg'd. Kingston (Surrey / Middlesex)
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The same census gives a birth for Henry MItchell around 1836 and Sarah around 1834 (1837 and 1835 in the 1861 census), so the family tree has a few errors.
Simon
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This is what I know. I am no relation but a researcher about the Industrial Schools.
Henry was not a nice man.
After Sarah died just a week before arrival he married Elizabeth Heatley in 1875 who looked after his 5 children. He was violent towards her as he was frequently drunk and she left him around the end of 1875. He deserted his children leaving them in a house with a neighbour Mrs Brown feeding them. He appears through 1875 and 1876 in court news for failing to contribute towards his children and from all accounts was pretty unrepentant about it all. William and George were sent to the Burnham Industrial School in Christchurch in 1875. By 1876 Henry appears in Dunedin and he is in court for failing to contribute towards a child in the Caversham Industrial School in Howe St. This is either George or William having been transferred from Burnham or another 3rd child.
In 1880 back in Auckland, Henry is once again in court (twice during the year) for failing to pay towards his children still in Industrial School/s. He is unemployed and had spent 3 months in jail in 1879 for the same offence. By August 1880 he owed 118 pound and had spent another 3 months in gaol. The court news states here that he abandoned his children on a wharf in Oct 1876, but George and William had already been committed to Burnham in March and reports then said they had been abandoned in an empty house in Wellesley St and fed by neighbours.
In court news in 1875 William is described as 2 years older than George, however I think the dates were the wrong way round. Upon the death of James Henry in the Coromandel is states that Henry the father was from Wimbledon Common near London. He would have been born about 1836 if passenger dates are correct.
I have the paperspast links for this but you can search using Henry Mitchell as an exact phrase.
I know nothing about 3rd and 4th marriages. Hope this helps. Gwila
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thanks you so much for this very much appreciated regards lnr
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Glad it was useful.
The marriages mention in the posts here, I don't think relate to this Henry Mitchell. The newspaper reports indicate that he was living in boarding houses or in gaol and no mention of other wives, plus it looks as if he could be the Henry Mitchell who died in 1886.
There are mentions of a baby born on the voyage and/or that Sarah died in childbirth but on the Zealandia records it says she died of chronic bronchitis and diarrhoea and no mention of a child. The newspapers mention 5 children which are the older ones we know about. There are too many William Mitchell's to work out which one he might be, but dates that would match could be 1925, 1940, 1945, 1951 if that helps. Given that the mother and stepmother Elizabeth were off the scene and Henry patently couldn't give a toss for his children I very much doubt the children came back into a family situation with him. They most likely were licensed out as farmhands or servants as soon as they were 15 under the Industrial Schools Act and William may have made a life in the Canterbury Otago area as he nothing to back to Auckland for.