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I am looking for information on the Chaney family of Rochester Kent. William George Chaney was born on the 15th of July 1803 in Rochester and was christened on the 7th August 1803 in the St Margaret parish in Rochester. He was married on the 9th August 1829 at Leysdown on Sea in Kent. In 1846 the growing family were living in Union St, St Gregory, near Canterbury City and WG was a stonemason. He worked on the Canterbury Cathderal for 18 years.
The family left on the “Randolph” from Plymouth for Lyttelton, New Zealand in 1850. WG was married to Sarah Susannah Chaney nee Palmer. They had 9 children between 1828 and 1853. WG came to Christchurch, New Zealand to work on the Cathedral here.
I can't seem to find them on the 1841 census, partly maybe because the census is very hard to read on the sources I have available here in New Zealand. Can anyone help on that?
Also, the various baptisms of the Chaneys appear at St Alphege, St Margarets, Staplegate, the Cathedral and St. Nicholas. I am unfamilar with Kent's geography or baptism practices at that time. Does anyone have a comment on this?
I also have a William Cheney "of Ailsford" in 1724. Where would Ailsford be?
Thank you for any assistance you can offer,
Stuart
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Hi Stuart
I can't help with the 1841 look up I'm afraid but do you not have any idea of the address at the time (from children's baptisms perhaps) which would facilitate a look up if somebody were able to do one?
Ailsford would probably be Aylesford nearer Maidstone in the Malling district:
http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/Maps/Registration_Districts/Malling.jpg
With regards to the baptisms, Staplegate is what is known as an "extra parochial" area of Canterbury (see Canterbury district above site) but there isn't a Staplegate church - did they live in Staplegate but get baptised in St Alphege perhaps? I assume you are talking about the St Alphege in Canterbury? This area, is little more than a stone's throw from Canterbury Cathedral.
There is a St Margarets in Canterbury but there are other St Margarets also ie. Rochester. There is not a St Nicholas in Canterbury but there is in Rochester (Medway district - see above site) as well as others The film or other resources for the St Nicholas and all the other baptisms would have told you where the parishes were.
More often than not, children were baptised in the parish in which they were born.
Does this help at all ???
Casalguidi
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Hi Stuart,
I've found William and his family for you on the 1841 census,
ref HO107 486-15 folio 41: parish of St Mary Northgate, Artillery Gardens (Artillery Street runs parallel to Union Street, off of Military Road), Canterbury
William Chaney age 35 stonemason
William Chaney age 9
John Chaney age 2
Sarah Chaney age 30
Emma Chaney age 7
Charlotte Chaney age 2 months
all born in county
Hope this helps with the research,
xx Carol.
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Thanks Carol,
I am enormously grateful. That is very helpful indeed. If you ever need anything looked up in the genealogical resources here in New Zealand, let me know!
Go well,
Stuart
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Do you know who the parents of William George Chaney Or any Siblings?? May link to my family tree
Jim
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Hi Jim,
William George's father was Francis Chaney (died 1845) and his mother Sarah Norris. Siblings were Charlotte Ann, James Henry, and Samuel. Chaney in generations prior to Francis were spelt Cheney, Cheyney or Chayney. Other surnames are Woodhead, Barret and Williamson.
All based around Rochester, Kent.
Thanks, Stuart
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sorry about delay in reply but can not find a link at the moment most of the chaney family in my tree come from Rochester,Chatham, and Headcorn Kent but may be a connection further back
Jim
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I have a Mary Cheney in my family tree, she married my ancestor Francis de Frates (or D'Freytes) at St Nicholas Rochester on13/8/1749. Her parents were William Cheney and Judeth Barret. They all (except Francis) came from that area but I have no more information on them. Do you think they could be connected with your Chaneys?
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Hi Goiose,
yes William and Judeth are definately my ancestors. This is what I have;
William Cheney and Judeth Barret married on the 29th of September 1724 at St Nicholas’ Rochester, Kent. William was born around 1704 and came from Ailsford, Kent. William then had another spouse Barbara Smith. They were married on the 4 December 1838 at St Nicholas. William died on the 23 Feb. 1752 at St Nicholas, Rochester. Barbara Smith had previously been married to Richard Eeles. She born around 1720, and died after 1758. She was christened in the Cathedral in Kent.
225 Judeth or Judith Barrett was born on the 17 March 1706. She was christened on the 16th of April 1706 at St Nicholas Church, Rochester, Kent. Her parents were Robert Barret and Susannah Williamson. She died on the 5th July 1738 in Rochester and buried from St Nicholas.
Williams parents were William and Mary Chayney.
Robert Barret and Susannah Williamson were married on the 12th of February 1697 at St Nicholas, Rochester, Kent.
Cheers,
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Kia ora Stuart
I am researching the SIMPSON family. Wilhelmina CHANEY, daughter of William George CHANEY married Andrew SIMPSON, 12 November 1873. Andrew is my gg-uncle.
I'd be interested to know where you fit in to the CHANEY family.
Jeni
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William George Chaney is my 5th great grandfather, would be interested in being in contact with other descendants.
Stuart have you still got my email address?
Michelle Cook
Christchurch
New Zealand
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;) Your on the right track! William George (b.15 july 1803) had two brothers and a sister - Charlotte Anne (b. 4 Dec 1797), William Thomas (bap. 30 June 1799), Charles Henry (b. 26 sept 1801). Their father was Francis (occ: Porter) (b.18 march 1775) - married at St Nicholas Rochester to Sarah ? in about 1797.
His parents were Thomas Chaney (b. 21 Aug 1735) married to Mary Winfield (a widow) in 7th Aug 1758. Francis had four other siblings as follows;
Mary Anne (b.11 June 1763), Elizabeth Jane (b. 17 Aug 1766), William Thomas (b. 5 Jul 1771), John Edmond (b.31 Aug 1773). We would like more info past Thomas Chaney (1735). If you require information after William George (b.15 Jul 1803 - d.10 Mar 1883) contact us however; if you can find out any more info we would be very interested. My partner is a Chaney from ancestry of the first fleet 'Randolph'.
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Wilhelmina Chaney (b.16 Oct 1853) in lyttleon had 7 siblings; William Francis CHANEY (b. 1832 married Emma Ford in Lyttleton 27 May 1858), Emma Susanna CHANEY (b. 1834 married Alfred Rhodes), John Albert CHANEY (b. 1838 married Mary Ann Brown), Charlotte CHANEY (b. 1842 married James Neale), Elizabeth CHANEY (b.1846 married Michael Raymond Connor then Henry Smith), Joseph Henry CHANEY (b. 9 sept 1848), Randolph Theodore CHANEY (b. 10 Sept 1850 married Sarah Ann Aswhorth) then came Wilhelmina.
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Hi there,
thanks for the info which confirms the information that I have. I am a descendent of WGC thru his son Randolph and then granddaughter Harriet. I am getting a fair bit of info and it would be good to compare notes. WGC was a stonemason who built a lot of the seawalls around Lyttelton and the Lyteelton gaol. Interesting guy.
S
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Hi All, it seems im a year or two late but just found this site.
Wiiliam George Chaney is my fourth great grandfather. His grandson Joseh Horatio Chaney or Albert Chaney made their way to Sydney and thats where my grandfather Eric Clifton Chaney comes into it.
Just wondering if anyone has traced back further to the ancestors of William Cheaney 1673-1795,this would be William George Chaney's 3rd Great grandfather?
Thx for any help in advance.
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Good evening from New Zealand,
I have got the following - I would have to check my sources now but to give you an idea: William married a Mary (ar. 1675-1745) but I am not sure about further back that that. It was Joseph who went to Sydney. John Albert went to Wellington. Cheers,
XStuart
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cheers stuart
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Hello there.
I don't think you are on the right track. Erric Clifton Chaney and Ada Chaney are my parents. I don't think you are his grandchild unless he has another son or daughter in the skeleton closet. My dad died in 1996 and my mum in 1977. He had 4 children all living in Australia. Hope this helps you.
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Hi there,
I just read my reply again, I am not sure why I said Joseph went to Australia - that is a mistake. Joseph stayed on the farm at Chaney's Corner north of Christchurch. My info suggests that his brother William Francis and Emma (nee Ford) Chaney seemed to have emigrated to Australia around 1882, when their son Joseph was married there (perhaps that's where I got mixed up). William's brother John Albert went to Wellington and owned the 'Cricketer's Arms' in Tory St for a while. Lots of Chaneys in Wellington. I am descended from a younger brother Randolph who was born on the ship the Randolph on the way to NZ in 1850. Cheers, S
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Hi,
I too am a descendant of WGC. His daughter Elizabeth is my great, great grandmother.
Love this forum!
Sarah Shallcrass (Erickson)
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Sarah
Great to see there are more family out there.
Are you from the Albert Ernest Victor CHANEY/Grace VIGERS branch? I have very little about Elizabeth, although do have her two marriages and the one child.
Michael Raymond CONNOR, married 05 Nov 1863
Harry SMITH, married 17 October 1914.
I am not directly connected, Wilhelmina CHANEY married my uncle, Andrew SIMPSON in 1873.
Jeni Simpson
Southland, Aotearoa/New Zealand
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Hey Jeni,
I'm not sure where the Albert/Grace ancestry lines up, sorry. I've only just started looking back.
The child you've found for Elizabeth from her marriage to Henry J Smith (Harry) is my great grandfather, via his son Devon Cecil (nickname Bull) Smith. DC Smith's eldest daughter, Cheryl Jane, is my Mum. (she is descended from the Bromby/Brumby family at Mataura through her Mum)
Such a small world we live in!!
Cheers
Sarah
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Hi Escape,
I'm pretty sure im eric's grandson...one of his daughters Barbara is in the living room.
Anyways still not sure who you are but we shall see if you return to the forum i guess.
Steve
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Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any stories about the Chaney’s? I’m a descendent of William George > William Francis. I don’t really have contact with this side of the family unfortunately. I know Chaney’s corner was lost in a card game but that’s about it! Thanks in advance!
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Hi there,
Wiliam George Chaney was my 3x great grandfather. He went farming at Chaney's Corner after the money ran out to build the cathedral. WCG had come out from Kent to build it. The farm was then taken over by his son Joseph who died in 1929. The old house is still there. Another son, Randolph, named after the ship on which they came out, was my great- grandfather. He worked in the freezing works in Islington near Christchurch. Stuart Vogel
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HI Stuart, thanks for the info. Do you happen to have a picture of William George? Thanks
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Hi Stuart, I'm new to all this but am very interested to learn more about my ancestors and their stories and I've thoroughly enjoyed reading everyone's posts. I'm Randolph Chaney's G.G.Grandaughter. His daughter Elizabeth Chaney married David Clements Clarke and their daughter, Edith Clarke was my Grandmother. I have discovered a Sir Thomas Cheyney who helped build Shurland Hall, Eastchurch, Isle of Sheppey during the first half of the 16th Century. He was a very important figure during the reign of Henry VIII but I'm not sure he is part of our family tree and that it was just a coincidence that William and Susannah were married on the Isle of Sheppey. The spelling of the name changes depending on what you read where. Would you know of this and whether it has a bearing on the Chaney family we belong to? In any case, it'd be great to touch base with a family member to discuss.
Cheers Cherie
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Kia ora from NZ, I'm amazed to have found this site. I am a descendant of William George Chaney from Kent, England he is my 5th Great Grandfather. My Line of descent follows as:
William George Chaney
- John Albert Chaney 1839-1896 married Mary Ann Brown Chaney
- William G Chaney (namesake) 1867-1915 married Emily Ellen Mary Knocks
- Ruby Catherine Chaney 1894 - 1973 married Andrew McDonnell, later married William Laurence Fleming in 1929
- Nyra Catherine McDonnell 1919-2008 married John Walker Bremner
- Valerie Ann Bremner 1940-1980 married Keith Borthwick Moore
- Donna Marie Moore 1960 - Living Married Haurua Haurua (My parents)
I have been researching my family tree for years, unfortunately on my mums side there has been little info passed down, except that we were told Ruby Catherine Chaney spent time in orphanages and was believed to have had maori heritage as she was dark skinned (possible love child). Unfortunately she grew up in a time when being maori wasn't good and never claimed to be, my mum as adamanet she was the daughter of a high ranking chief and had a lot of old artefacts in her house growing up this was verbal stories told to her. We visited her once as kids but she never opened the door for us. Any info on this line of the family from William, john Albert would be greatly appreciated any family photos would be awesome to add to my familysearch website.
thanks, J
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Good morning, my line comes from Randolph Theodore Chaney, who was the brother of John Albert Chaney. JAC went to Wellington and ran the Cricketers' Arms Hotel for a while. I have quite a bit of info on him. He and his wife were buried in the Bolton St cemetery. I have little bit of info on his children but nothing on futher descendants. That is new info re Ruby. I would be happy to see what I have and pass it on. I am not sure how best to do that on this site so we can work that out. Great to hear from you.
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Good morning Stuart, that's amazing info so somewhere down the line we're 6-7th cousins hahaha. Mate I would love any info really to add into the family research files I've been compiling. If it's easier to share via email i'll drop you a private message. Many thanks.
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JCKH you will have to make one more post before you can use he private message system.
Just a smiley will do.
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Please let me PM :)
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Kia ora JCKH,
I came across your post while researching Mary Ann Brown and John Albert Chaney. I am a descendant through their son Albert Abraham Chaney & Winnifred Wade > Albert Joseph Chaney & Mary Catherine Penfold > Mary Julia Chaney & John Daniel Bradley (my grandparents).
This thread has been interesting and helpful for the Chaney side (thanks everyone!), I was wondering if you happened to have any information about Mary Ann Brown please? I can’t find anything on the internet, and BDM historical records doesn’t go further back than her son. Anything would be super helpful, TIA.
Kj
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Hi there,
I have Mary Ann Brown marrying John Chaney at Holy Trinity Church, Lyttelton on 8 January 1862, He was 22 and she was 17. She had been in NZ 8 months. She was a minor but had no one in NZ to authorise the marriage. They had 10 children and moved to Wellington. She died in 1897 and is buried in the Bolton St cemetery.