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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: janjan on Wednesday 21 April 10 13:21 BST (UK)
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Hi i would like any help with this branch as it is driving me crazy ??? ??? ???
Hector is on the 1901 census and 1911 living carlisle but born london, cant find a birth for him anywhere at all !! so cant find his mothers maiden name so cant find his parents marrage !! parents were william edgar and elizabeth living pack horse lane in 1901william was a policeman but didnt register in cumberland so no info there, living at stanwixs carlisle in 1911 .so without some more info i cant find williams and elizabeths deaths either !! think hector might have ended up living in bournemouth now not sure if its him or not?? could he get married without a birth certificate ??? ???
help please janjan
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1891
RG12 4292/37/26
William Edgar 27 water bailiff b Todhills Cumberland
Elizabeth 30 wife b Bubwith Yorks
3 Eden Town,Stanwix,Carlisle
marriage
Jun qu 1888 Carlisle 10b 735
William Edgar
Elizabeth Jackson
it appears to be the only William Edgar marriage with an Elizabeth in the country between 1888-1892
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hector is transcribed as just frederick in the 1911 census,,,and is shown as born Carlisle,,,,nearest birth i can find is
Births Jun 1893
Edgar Frederick Wigton 10b 580
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Hi,
have sent for the marrage certificate to see if it holds any clues!! i dont think thats my fredrick edgar as traced that one with another family in 1901,
but thanks for all your help
janice ???
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Recieved the marrage certificate and its not my william edgar this one married a margaret frost and his dad was called nicholas not one of my family at all,im so confussed :'( :'( :'(
janjan
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Hi
That's a shame. That's the other woman on the page.
Strange though: also 1891, there is a William Edgar at Bubwith,Yorkshire - not a huge place - railway signalman with mother, Jane widow and siblings, Frederick G 12, Gwendoline 10 and Walter7. He is son 24 b Barrow in Furness!
Same age as1901!
lookingat births.How many?
Emms
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Hi
Even if age is exact we have:
births Ulverstone 8e 652 Sep1866 and Carlisle 10b 438
and others close by.
MMM??!!??
Emms
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Hi
Looking at a wider date range, wehavequite a few posibilities -some wulld be a second marriage - including one in Barrow and a very early one Carlisle, 1881 to Eliza Sharp - stetching age range and needs census check.
As you sy, reallyneeds Hector's birth cetificate!
Good luck!
Emms
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Hi
1881
There is indeed William Edgar atTodhills, b 1864 with widowed mother Jane b 1817 and siblings, Georgina, Daniel, John.
(5161/93 on RG11).
Emms
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Also,
Wlliam aged 14 at Kingstone, Carlisle with parents Peter and Nancy and siblings John, Sarah, Margare
(5161/14)
Emms
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Ooh!
Also 1881, William b Longtown, 1868 isat Barrow with father George a police sergeant!
More to follow!
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Right - can we make it work?
George Edgar police sergeant 38 b Dumfries and wife Elinor 36 b Longtown with children:
Reginald 14, William 13, George 11, James 9 all bLongtown and
Janet3, John 1 and Matilda 1m all b Barrow lancs,
servants MargaretBatistic?22 b Alderney, ChannelIslands and boarder William Boulton, enginedriver, bGloucester, Cheltenham.
(4290/62).
Can it work?
Emms
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Hi agan
Struggling now !ooked at births,so just a few thougts:
An siblings in 1911 with birth cert?
Birth in Dumfries or near?
Police service record? Lancashire?
Army service? Hector WW1? Wiliam WW1?
Did William work for metropolitan police at all?
Will check Lancashire. office police service index. I had one record from there.
Bestwishes
Emms :) ??? ??? :) ::) ::) ;) ;) ;)
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Hi
Just three years early 1870's for Georg. Also a couple for John. Worth an email for both.brother?
None for William
Search here
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/records/policesearch.asp
thooght: also try newspaper searches.Police often appeared. My gggrandfather did.
Also, try the Lancashire board and Lancashire OPC here,if you think it's him.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.htmlBest wishes
Emms