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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Kerrynt on Monday 19 April 10 06:27 BST (UK)
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Would anyone have a copy or be able to tell me where I could get the passenger list for the ship Travancore which brought many orphaned and poor Irish girls to Fremantle WA in January 1853. I have a copy of the book "The Bride Ships" by Rica Erickson which gives a wonderful insight into Irish immigration to WA.
My gg grandmother, Catherine Barry, was on the Travancore. This information came from the Dictionary of Western Australians. Catherine Barry married George Adams in June 1853 at Fremantle and I cannot find this George arriving on any shipping list as yet. I wondered if he was also on the Travancore. Pretty sure I have him in 1851 census in England so the time frame for hiss arrival is narrowed.
Many thanks
Kerryn
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BARRY Catherine Miss 20 years Departed from London and arrived at Fremantle on the TRAVENCORE on 13 Jan 1853.
The only George ADAMS I can see on my resources -
ADAMS George Departed from Plymouth and arrived at Fremantle on 14 Oct 1851 on the MINDEN. Convict No 973.
There is more information here, including a physical description.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08hk/
Cheers
Cando
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Thankyou Cando I have already looked at that George Adams and it isn't him unfortunately.
There was also a Mary Ann and Honora Barry on the Travancore that were initially thought to be Catherine's sisters but all of our research to date tends to dispute the fact.
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If George ADAMS travelled to WA on a coastal trader eg from any of the Eastern States, there may not be a record. His death certificate may give you an idea of time in WA.
Cando
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I am searching for the same passenger list as I think that my GG grandmother
Mary Kissane was on the Travancore arrive Fremantle Western Australia 1853.
Have you found a copy of this passenger list ?
maurie
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Hi Mauri
Welcome to rootschat :)
I have a resource which lists the 241 passengers and the ship is TRAVENCORE
The only information is KISSANE Mary 25 years Acc115/7-8
Cheers
Cando
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Thanks Cando.
I have been trying to find a copy of the Travancore passenger manifest
for the sail that arrived in Fremantle /Perth Western Australia in 1853
on 13 Jan. I understand that the husband of Mary Kissane who is my
GG Grandfather Patrick Kissane may have died at sea before arrival.
Is there a Patrick Kissane listed on Travancore Passenger Manifest and
how many if any passengers died at sea on this cruise ? What does the
Mary Kissane reference Acc 115/7-8 mean?
Are there any children listed including Michael Kissane b 1847 Kerry
Ireland as he is my Great Grandfather but I understand that young children
may not be listed on a shipping passenger manifest from the 1852 sail date.
Finally where can I find a resource which lists this Travancore Passenger List?
Many Thanks
Maurie :)
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According to Rica Erickson's book "The Bride Ships" the demand for single women to WA was so great and the shipping records done in such haste that a lot of information was not recorded or misrecorded especially regarding the Catholic Irish girls coming out to balance the sexes in the Colony. Comparison with other documents reveals that false information was sometimes given regarding the number of passengers, their ages, occupations and marital status. The fault lay not only with the agents. Some migrants were known to give misleading information in order to comply with regulations.
I still haven't found a copy of the passenger list.
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Thanks Kerryn,
Cando has been kind enough to say that the WAGS (Western Australian
Geneological Society) in Perth WA does have this 1852/53 Travancore
pasenger list on CD. The Mary Kissane age 25 on this pax list maybe my
GG Greatmother but she was by then a widow with two young children.
Her Husband Patrick Kissane m Mary Walsh 04 may 1846 Beaufort Co Kerry
Island may have died at sea on the Travanocore which arrived in Fremantle
Western Australia on 13 January 1853. This is based on family folk lore but
may be just that. I am glad that you have some basic confirmation about the
Barry sisters. Good luck with your research. Maurie. :)
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I can't help you with a passenger list for the Travencore January 1853, but I know that because of the success of this first ship, a second lot of poor and orphaned irish girls was sent again later in November 1852, sailing from Plymouth. My Great great grandmother Mary Dooley was on this second ship arriving in Fremantle in April 1853. We have traced our Mary back to the Mount Bellew Workhouse, Co Galway and Mary's passage was paid for by the trustees of the workhouse. It would seem that many of the girls on this same ship were from Co Galway. Noted in the minutes of the Mount Bellew Poor Union Board meeting it mentions the Travencore:
"3 September 1852
‘Letter from Lieutenant Sunders, [R.N. Emigration Agent stating that the
Emigration commissioners had instructed him to make a selection of 30
young women from the female inmates in Mount Bellew workhouse who
are candidates for emigration to Van Diemen’s land, for passage to that
colony by the ship ‘Travencore’ which will sail from Plymouth on 23rd
instant, and requesting to be informed of the day that he could make his
selection’ (p339).
10 September 1852
‘That Lient Saunders Emigration Agent had selected 30 of the female
inmates for passages to Van Diemen’s land by the ship “Travencore” which
will sail from Plymouth on 23rd inst and from the limited time given to have
the outfit necessary for them prepared he purchased 500 yards of grey
calico for the requisite number of shifts, which are complete and prayed
the Board’s sanction to his so doing; he submitted the following list of
articles necessary to complete the outfit prescribed by the Colonial Land
and Emigration Commissioners and requested the Board’s attention to
same viz:40
yards calico
210 yards flannel
540 yards cotton
360 yards cashmere
120 towels’ (p374).
Resolved That the Master be authorised to purchase the above articles
required or the emigrants outfit. Board approve of his having purchases
calico in anticipation of their sanction’ (p374)."
I hope this is of some assistance.
Kerryn
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Sorry, I meant to say my gggrandmother arrived on the 'Palestine', shortly after the Travencore.
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Thank you KFerraro (Kerryn?)
I don't know where in Limerick my gg grandmother came from. I see on the map Co. Clare is between Galway and Limerick but they aren't terribly far apart. Did you get records from the Mount Bellew workhouse?
Kerryn
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No, I got the records from the National Archives of Ireland or Galway....think this was their website http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/ArchivesService/
Good luck.
Cheers
Kerryn F (different to Kerryn T)
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Sorry....it was the Galway County Archives. Same web address as previous.
Kerryn F
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Thanks Kerryn - nice name ;D I'll have a look there.
regards
Kerryn
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I'm the one that thinks you've got a nice name ;D hehe
Kerryn F
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Hello everyone, can anyone help me with a record of my g g grandmother Honorah McCUTCHEON who was believed to be on the Travancore arriving WA 1853. It is thought she came from Co Clare. There may be a discrepancy with the surname spelling - QUICHEN? CUTCHEON?
Thankyou!
Col