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Title: burts scotland to america
Post by: beansgram on Sunday 18 April 10 04:04 BST (UK)
while researching beveridges i found the following burts immigrated on the same ship sept 15 1851

andrew burt  1817

david burt 1826

margaret burt 1818

agnes burt 1842

isabella 1844

margaret 1846

peter age listed as 8/12 which puts his birth dec 1850

i think the margaret 1818 is the wife of either andrew or david but cont connect them to my other burts any help would be appreciated

beans
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: davaar36 on Sunday 18 April 10 11:00 BST (UK)
Other than "Andrew" this seems to tally with the following family. (Perhaps the "Andrew" is a mis-transcription and is in fact "Peter"). Peter Burt (b1818 Dunfermline  d1888 Oregon) married Margaret Beveridge (b1819 Dunfermline) in Dunfermline in 1839. Their children Agnes, Isabella Spowart, Margaret, Thomas Peter and Peter were born in Fife. A daughter Catherine was born in Ohio 1854. Peter b1818 was the son of Peter Burt (b.1795 Dunfermline  d1844 Kelty) and Isobel Spoward or Spowart (b1792 Dunfermline d1856 in Ohio) married 1817 in Dunfermline. Can't go further back with the Burts but can take Spowarts back several generations.

Dod
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: beansgram on Sunday 18 April 10 15:40 BST (UK)
thanks for the reply.  this must be a family i didnt get re-entered after my old computer crashed

because someone in oregon sent me an envelope full of births wills deaths etc. connected to this family

so they were on my tree at one time.  there are other spowarts beveridges and burts so  i should be

 able to connect them..


beans
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: hdw on Sunday 18 April 10 18:35 BST (UK)
I remember a Mr. Burt who had a little bookshop in Kirkcaldy in the late 60s, when I worked at Fife County Library HQ there.

Harry
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: lexxi on Sunday 18 April 10 19:34 BST (UK)
Do you have the name of the ship the Burts and Beveridges were on?

On April 2, 1852, Joseph Burt, his wife Helen Kirk Hutchison , their children, Peter Hutchison, Robert Hutchison, Isabel Kirk, and Joseph Hutchison, along with Josephs mother, Isabell Spowart  and her younger children, Isabel, David, Andrew, and Thomas left Greenock quay Scotland for New York.   Six weeks later they arrived in New York.

They spent one night in New York then boarded a train to Tamaqua, Penn. where they were met by Josephs brother Peter Burt.
Peter Burt and his wife Margaret Beveridge & children were already in the states.  I have been trying to find the dates Peter and Margaret immigrated to the states.

 

Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: beansgram on Monday 19 April 10 03:01 BST (UK)
hi this is what i have on this families immigration

margaret beveridge burt immigrated with her brothers andrew and james and james wife euphemia and james and euphemias sons james born in 1851 and alexander born in 1846.  also margaret and peters children agnes, isabella, margaret, and peter.  the ship is the statira morse left glasgow scotland and arrived in new york on sept 15 1851.  hope that helps
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: beansgram on Monday 19 April 10 03:02 BST (UK)
i also have pictures of some of them and margarets husband peter burts will and estate papers.


beans
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: lexxi on Saturday 24 April 10 10:14 BST (UK)
Thank you Beansgram for the information.  Yes I am interested in any photos or documents you may have about the families-Burts, Beveridges, etc. 
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: llrieks on Tuesday 19 October 10 15:46 BST (UK)
I just found "The Statira Morse" ships list last week and my immediate thought was that it was a mistranscription and that the Andrew Burt listed as age 34 was in fact Peter Burt - husband of Margaret (Beveridge) Burt age 33 as all the other Burt names and ages matched my records.
Peter Burt had a brother David who I had been told immigrated with Peter's mother and brothers and sisters, but David does not show on their immigration on the "Champion" April 30, 1852. 
So I am thinking the David on "The Statira Morse"  must be him.

This is my first day on RootsChat and so don't know how it works - but Bones mentioned having pictures and I am wondering how I contact her about getting copies? 
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: jac2 on Thursday 21 October 10 01:09 BST (UK)
hi llrieks

welcome to rootschat as a new member you will have to make 3 posts before you can send beans a personal message with your email address. don't post your email on the boards. so far you've made one, a reply to this posting will count as a 2nd.
good luck

jacci
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: llrieks on Thursday 21 October 10 01:21 BST (UK)
Thanks for the welcome.  I have been enjoying the posts I am reading.

I forgot to say on my original post re: the ship "The Statira Morse" arriving in NY --  that I read on the posts and interpreted as the Euphemia Burt listed is really probably Euphemia Beveridge - therefore my thinking that Andrew Burt is really Peter Burt is further enhanced.
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: jac2 on Thursday 21 October 10 01:26 BST (UK)
hi llrieks

one more reply and you will be able to pm beans.

i don't have any connection to the burts that i know of, but my grandsons tree has beveridge.

jacci
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: llrieks on Thursday 21 October 10 02:44 BST (UK)
Peter Burt married Margaret Beveridge.  They ended up in Oregon, but I think all of her brothers that came over stayed in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: beansgram on Monday 25 October 10 00:33 BST (UK)
Margarets brother James and his wife Euphemia Hynd beveridge settled in allegheny county pennsylvania their 2 oldest children were born before they left scotland Alexander and james. Agnes and john were born in pennsylvania.
James beveridge is buried in Salem Cemetery in Pine Township Allegheny County Pennsylvania I have not been able to find where his wife is buried. She is not on our 1900 census so I assume she died before 1900   Beans
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: SalmonDream on Saturday 15 March 14 18:21 GMT (UK)
I have been researching Isabell(a) Spowart Burt McArthur of New Era, Oregon.  My grandmother passed down some quilts made by Isabell and a very large portrait of her as well.  I have recently had the quilts looked at by a quilt historian, the main fabrics are from the 1820-1900. Some of the cloth (black ones) were mourning cloth, some probably other clothing. They are beautiful quilts with no signs of wear.  They were made for my grandmother, Veda Alice Brown Schroeder.  I would be happy to post pictures, but I am not sure how to do it on this site.

Birth:  Sep. 9, 1843
Glenrothes, Scotland
Death:  Feb. 6, 1944
Canby
Clackamas County
Oregon, USA

 
Family links:
 Parents:
  Peter Burt (1818 - 1888)
  Margaret Beveridge Burt (1819 - 1891)
 
 Spouse:
  David Elmer McArthur (1842 - 1937)
 
 Children:
  Margaret Velona McArthur Brown (1866 - 1925)*
  George Thomas McArthur (1868 - 1956)*
  Mary Agnes McArthur Haines (1871 - 1961)*
  Isabell McArthur Newman (1872 - 1950)*
  Burt Peter McArthur (1874 - 1953)*
  Alice Mae McArthur Pitts (1877 - 1966)*
  David Elmer McArthur (1880 - 1960)*
  Frank Eugene  McArthur (1881 - 1927)*
  Robert Burns MacArthur (1883 - 1967)*
 
 
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: SalmonDream on Saturday 15 March 14 18:35 GMT (UK)
I need to make a correction on the dates of the fabrics in the quilts mentioned above.  The correct dates are 1880-1900 in one of the quilts.  The other quilts are in the 1920's to late 1930's range.
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: beansgram on Saturday 15 March 14 19:10 GMT (UK)
No the Andrew is Andrew Burt and the Peter is Peter Burt 2 different people.  Peter Burt came over before the rest of his family.  The Andrew is Peter's brother. All of this has been verified.   Beans
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: llrieks on Sunday 16 March 14 02:09 GMT (UK)
I have been researching Isabell(a) Spowart Burt McArthur of New Era, Oregon.  My grandmother passed down some quilts made by Isabell and a very large portrait of her as well.  I have recently had the quilts looked at by a quilt historian, the main fabrics are from the 1820-1900. Some of the cloth (black ones) were mourning cloth, some probably other clothing. They are beautiful quilts with no signs of wear.  They were made for my grandmother, Veda Alice Brown Schroeder.  I would be happy to post pictures, but I am not sure how to do it on this site.

Birth:  Sep. 9, 1843
Glenrothes, Scotland
Death:  Feb. 6, 1944
Canby
Clackamas County
Oregon, USA

 
Family links:
 Parents:
  Peter Burt (1818 - 1888)
  Margaret Beveridge Burt (1819 - 1891)
 
 Spouse:
  David Elmer McArthur (1842 - 1937)
 
 Children:
  Margaret Velona McArthur Brown (1866 - 1925)*
  George Thomas McArthur (1868 - 1956)*
  Mary Agnes McArthur Haines (1871 - 1961)*
  Isabell McArthur Newman (1872 - 1950)*
  Burt Peter McArthur (1874 - 1953)*
  Alice Mae McArthur Pitts (1877 - 1966)*
  David Elmer McArthur (1880 - 1960)*
  Frank Eugene  McArthur (1881 - 1927)*
  Robert Burns MacArthur (1883 - 1967)*

I am in touch with a grandson of Mary Agnes McArthur Haines.  He would like to get in touch with you.
Lois
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: SalmonDream on Tuesday 18 March 14 04:26 GMT (UK)
Lois, that would be nice.  How do we go about doing that?  Where does he live?
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: llrieks on Tuesday 18 March 14 15:23 GMT (UK)
Lois, that would be nice.  How do we go about doing that?  Where does he live?
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Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: ElaineBlackmer on Monday 15 September 14 13:21 BST (UK)
Hello All, Noticed the posts on the Burts, Beveridge and McArthur line.  I am also researching these.  David Elmer McArthur and wife Isabella Spowart Burt were my 2nd Great Grandparents. 
As with Nathan Haines I am also in the Agnes Mary McArthur Haines line.  He has helped me a great deal with piecing the Burts and Beveridge together in America. 
It's always great to see other family members doing research on our family line. Elaine
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: beansgram on Monday 15 September 14 13:59 BST (UK)
I have been trying to post the pictures I have of the Burts but I can't figure it out can someone tell me how to post photographs.   Beans
Title: Re: burts scotland to america
Post by: llrieks on Tuesday 16 September 14 01:33 BST (UK)
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