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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: JulieInNornIron on Saturday 17 April 10 05:57 BST (UK)
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I'm new, so I apologise if the advice needed has been answered to death !!
My Great x3 Grandfather WILLIAM HOLLIDAY was born in Scotland. Relocated to Carlisle at some point.
Married at St. Cuthbert's, Carlisle in feb 1825 to CATHERINE GRAHAM
The Parish Marriage entry doesn't give any parents names. Only witnesses.
Parents may have even been deceased.
I think the Witnesses are related to the bride & groom (possibly siblings)
Thomas Holliday & Ann Graham
( I also noticed the Witnesses had handwritten signatures, where as mine both signed with an X.
Were older sibs educated, while the younger ones worked or looked after the house ?)
Anyway, I'm at a dead end as I don't know their parents names.
The Holliday's were most likely from Dumfries & Galloway - but I don't know which town & name is quite common there.
I have all the Census info I need from 1841 onwards.
I'm in Belfast, so I can't get to the Records Office.
Any advice would be great!
Thank you :D
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Have you checked on Scotlands People? There only seems to be one baptism for william holliday between 1790 and 1810, but cant look for you - no credits.
I also have Holliday's in my family tree and some were known as Holliday and some were Halliday even within the same family!
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Welcome to Rootschat - and there's no need to apologise for asking a question, that's what we all do all the time.
I know SP has already been checked for you, but do you have an approximate date of birth for William?
Was his age given on the marriage certificate?
There are around 12 William Halliday / Holiday / Holliday entries in Dumfriesshire alone and a lot more for the rest of Scotland so any further information would be useful
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Wiliam Holiday 4 /5/1805 Dalton Dumf.
father George
mother Mry Brown
best I can do
audrey
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There was a brother with him in 1851 so that's someone else to check. Then there was your witness Thomas ... had he been the husband of Elizabeth who had a son Thomas 15 in 1841? They seem to have lived nearby.
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I'm a bit slow today. Have just realised why the 2 of you seemed so far ahead of me! Having looked at the 1851 census I now see why Audrey managed to isolate just one birth from the list of 12 I had.
Just tried to redeem myself by checking for a birth for James to cross reference the parents, but can't see anything
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best I can do with Thomas
25/12/1793 Thomas Holiday
June 1790 William Holiday all born Saint Mungo Dumfries
father William Holiday
no mother listed
audrey
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There was a brother with him in 1851 so that's someone else to check. Then there was your witness Thomas ... had he been the husband of Elizabeth who had a son Thomas 15 in 1841? They seem to have lived nearby.
I haven't connected any other siblings yet - except James (born c1793), I'm afraid.
Where did you find the info? I'm just using free sites at the moment.
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I know SP has already been checked for you, but do you have an approximate date of birth for William?
Was his age given on the marriage certificate?
There are around 12 William Halliday / Holiday / Holliday entries in Dumfriesshire alone and a lot more for the rest of Scotland so any further information would be useful
He was listed as a minor. Catherine was a year older & not listed as a minor, so I was thinking he was 20, so, 1805 or 1806
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Wiliam Holiday 4 /5/1805 Dalton Dumf.
father George
mother Mry Brown
best I can do
audrey
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???
If it helps, William & Catherine's childrens names were:
William, Robert, John, Thomas & George, (possibly a Mary & an Andrew)
Unfort' no listing of a George & Mary in Dalton having a James in the 1790's in Scotland.
They had an Andrew, Robert Hudson & William - unless James in an older half brother or something.
Then there's Thomas Holliday & Elizabeth Little in Troqueer with a James (1792)& William (1795). Could this William be an older deceased brother?
Aargh !!!
You're all GREAT by the way !! ;D
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Hi Julie,
I've just come across your post. It was a while ago, but I wanted to ask if you had got any further in your search. William Holliday is also my Great, Great, Great Grandfather - with my descendants moving down through his son Thomas - and I'm just beginning to look further into the Holliday line.
I don't think I have much more information than you, but I am planning to visit the ScotlandsPeople Centre in the coming weeks, and so will be able to open up greater search possibilities there than online.
Are you still looking into William Holliday?
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Hello Scotchprofessor,
Because I'd posted two (not very helpful) additions to this thread I had an alert of your new contribution.
I've just looked at Julie's profile and it seems that she hasn't logged onto the site since October 2010 so may not see your message
Hopefully she will come back again sometime and see your post, but in the meantime good luck with your own research