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Title: Can anyone help me
Post by: jigguy29 on Thursday 15 April 10 21:56 BST (UK)
I have managed to trace my family tree to my great grandfather frederick william wilkinson who married in 1908 in Lurgan Co.Armagh in Northern Ireland, can anyone help me get back any further please or give me some tips on how to do it?

He married a Lady called Ruth, they had 5 children, Florence, Molly, Roy, Samuel and Frederick
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 15 April 10 22:01 BST (UK)
the irish 1911 census has a ruth wilkinson with daughter florence living with her grandparents...that should help.....

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/Brownlow_Terrace/335852/
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 15 April 10 22:11 BST (UK)
following on from the census return gortonboy found, there seems to be  a good match for the marriage from the civil index :

 Name: Frederick Wilkinson
 Registration district: Lurgan
 Record type: Marriage
 Quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1908
 Volume: 1 / Page: 930

 Name: Ruth Matthews
 [same index details as Fredrick]

see the topic 2 Minute Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) for details on searching the index, ordering certs etc.

A marriage cert would give your details on the Bride & Grooms fathers etc.


Shane
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: jigguy29 on Thursday 15 April 10 22:53 BST (UK)
thank you for the answers, i am useless at this trying to search further up my tree and still getting nowhere, patience is a virtue i suppos. Thank you for the help its very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 15 April 10 23:06 BST (UK)
Hi,
   Shane is correct, Frederick Wilkinson married Ruth Matthews on 21 Nov 1908 in Shankill Church of Ireland, Lurgan.

Regards
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: jigguy29 on Thursday 15 April 10 23:09 BST (UK)
Hi there thanks for that, can you give me some advice on how I go about finding both sets of their parents please?
Title: i have searched the census
Post by: jigguy29 on Friday 16 April 10 00:07 BST (UK)
I have searched the census and I cannot find any trace of Frederick Wilkinson in it, I know that he and ruth had 5 kids, she was living with her mother and grand mother but there is no mention of my great great grandfather there. would anyone know where I can search the next census that would have been done in this area? I would be very greatful for any help
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 16 April 10 08:11 BST (UK)
Hi there thanks for that, can you give me some advice on how I go about finding both sets of their parents please?

The marriage cert will give you the father's names and occupations, which you could then follow up by searching for them on the 1911 Irish Census.

The other census that will be available soon is the one for 1901. No later census returns are available. To search for other children born later than 1911 you could check for other Wilkinson births in the same area on the civil index

Do you know what Frederick's occupation was ? (it might help find him on the census)


Shane
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: doylers94 on Wednesday 06 October 10 08:55 BST (UK)
Some Lurgan men are missing in the 1901 Census because they were serving in the Boer War Do you still need his fathers name?
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: Jaemiwilk23 on Saturday 22 March 25 23:05 GMT (UK)
Hello my name
is Jamie Wilkinson that is my great grandfather, i don’t have any information currently but i’ll come back here if and when i do. 🙏
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 08 May 25 08:03 BST (UK)

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Frederick Wilkinson married Ruth Matthews on 21 Nov 1908 in Shankill Church of Ireland, Lurgan.

URL-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10071/5663163.pdf
Fathers- William Wilkinson, weaver and Robert Matthews, labourer.
The two witnesses - James Wilkinson and Ellen Matthews.

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He married a Lady called Ruth, they had 5 children, Florence, Molly, Roy, Samuel and Frederick

Florence Eveline 1909
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1909/01596/1641540.pdf
Frederick William 1912
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1912/01495/1608036.pdf
Mary Ann 1913
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1914/01425/1584933.pdf
Robert Roy 1918
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1918/01275/1528757.pdf
Samuel Davis 1921
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1921/01195/1497600.pdf

1911 Household Return (Form A)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001654736/

Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: jigguy29 on Thursday 08 May 25 08:25 BST (UK)
He would be your Great great grandfather same as me. Are you pauls son?
Title: Re: Can anyone help me
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 08 May 25 09:13 BST (UK)

He would be your Great great grandfather same as me. Are you pauls son?

If you are referring to Jaemiwilk23, he/she has made two posts so you should be able to send them a PM (Personal Message).
Note that he/she posted on the day of registration and hasn't been back here since.