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Title: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: MJ53 on Sunday 11 April 10 05:24 BST (UK)
My grandfather was William Vincent Jackson 1882-1954 he was born in Sydney and his parents are William (John) Henry Jackson and his mother Florence Tuckwell. I can't find marriage or deaths.  They were here as they had a son but not on any passenger lists or BMD.
Thanks
Marilyn
Title: Re: Marriage Jackson/Tuckwell
Post by: cando on Sunday 11 April 10 05:35 BST (UK)
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My grandfather was William Vincent Jackson 1882-1954 he was born in Sydney and his parents are William (John) Henry Jackson and his mother Florence Tuckwell.
Marilyn

Hi Marilyn

I can't seem to find his birth on the NSW bdm.  Do you have his birth certificate?  Where did he die in 1954?

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Marriage Jackson/Tuckwell
Post by: cando on Sunday 11 April 10 05:55 BST (UK)
Is this your William Vincent?

Australian Electoral Rolls
NSW  1937
JACKSON Alice 3 Irvine Street, Randwick  HD
JACKSON William Snr  3 Irvine Street, Randwick  Labourer
JACKSON William Vincent Jnr  3 Irvine Street, Randwick  Labourer

NSW 1943
JACKSON William Vincent  292 Pitt Street, King  Timber Worker

Qld 1949, 1954
JACKSON William Vincent  Union Hotel, Ruthven  Barman

Death in Qld
1958/5441   
JACKSON William Vincent   
Father William      Mother Alice KEALY

It would appear that the above William Vincent was born 1916 Qld
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=R&VeteranID=916150

Marriage in Qld
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
1913/48   
KEALY Alice J
JACKSON William


You are looking for KEALY's - is there a connection with Alice?
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I have a Katherine Bowe 1821-1887 married to Patrick Kealy 1817-1901 both born in Kilkenny and migrated to australia so i would love to find a connection.
Marilyn

Perhaps with a little more information about your William Vincent we may be able to help you further.

Cheers
Cando



Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 11 April 10 06:44 BST (UK)
Hi All
It strikes me as an unusual coincidence, too, that the name of the first child to WILLIAM JACKSON and ALICE KEALY was
 MONICA FLORENCE
reg. 15651 in  1914. QLD.
Sue
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: cando on Sunday 11 April 10 08:34 BST (UK)
Buried at Drayton Cemetery Qld

JACKSON William Vincent 
Religion  RC  42 years  Date of death 18 Dec 1958  Date of burial 19 Dec 1958
Location Section RC6, Block 10, Allotment 22

and interred in the same grave

JACKSON Alice
Religion RC  91 years  Date of death 17 Feb 1972  Date of Burial 18 Feb 1972   
Location Section RC6, Block 10, Allotment 22

Cando

Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: cando on Sunday 11 April 10 08:39 BST (UK)
and in the adjoining grave

JACKSON William
Religion RC    75 years  Date of death 12 Jul 1952  Date of burial 14 Jul 1952
Location    Section RC6, Block 10, Allotment 21

and also interred in this grave

JACKSON Thomas Joseph
Religion RC    39 years  Date of Death 15 Feb 1958  Date of burial  17 Feb 1958
Location    Section RC 6, Block 10, Allotment 21

Also born Warwick Qld
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=214516

Cando
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 11 April 10 08:46 BST (UK)
Hi cando,
William Thomas was a brother.
He has a ww2 record also and he lists his NOK as William Jackson.

This is an infant death in NSW. Bit doubtful, but worth posting

In 1906  JACKSON  SYDNEY F. father  WILLIAM H. mother  FLORENCE  SYDNEY reg. 20855 

ADDING, just saw you had the ww2 link already up
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: cando on Sunday 11 April 10 08:48 BST (UK)
Death Qld
1952/3988   
JACKSON William   
Father William Henry   Mother Florence

So you are looking for the marriage of the parents of this William who died in 1952 and according to the age on the burial record, was born c1877.  Do you have this death certificate?  

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: MJ53 on Sunday 11 April 10 08:55 BST (UK)
Thanks Cando
I had that as I knew all those jacksons as Alice was my grandmother Thomas my father and Patricia my mother.  It is the jackson tuckwell connection that I can't find.  I have nothing on them except their name off Williams death cert.
Marilyn

Yes I have his death cert
Do you think there could be any connection to Sydney or is 19 years too long to behaving children. I don't have any brother or sisters for william Vincent (1882)

Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: cando on Sunday 11 April 10 09:09 BST (UK)
Firstly the information on a death certificate is only as good as the knowledge of the informant and is often inaccurate.

Nineteen years is certainly not too long a period over which a woman may bear children.

The dates you gave us for William 1882-1954 were not quite correct. They are c1877-1952.   The only Wm Vincent I can find on any records is for Wm Vincent b. 1916.

I have searched very thoroughly in NSW even using just the given names for William, Florence and son William.  Nothing.  There is no JACKSON/TUCKWELL marriage in NSW.  Of course they may not have been married in Australia and there is also the possibility that William was not born in Sydney.  Are you saying that William b. 1877 was also William Vincent?

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: MJ53 on Sunday 11 April 10 09:15 BST (UK)
yes it was 1952 I just checked my printout from Toowoomba Cemetery his birthdate I got from his marriage cert.  I might purchase that Sydney Jackson birth cert and see if william is a sibling.   I have most certs as source and passenger lists and cemetery records.
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: MJ53 on Sunday 11 April 10 09:17 BST (UK)
Yes I have death cert of William Vincnt and his marriage cert to Alice.
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: cando on Sunday 11 April 10 10:45 BST (UK)
I might purchase that Sydney Jackson birth cert and see if william is a sibling.   I have most certs as source and passenger lists and cemetery records.

I suppose you are aware you can purchase transcriptions of certificates in NSW...a cheaper and quicker option.  Saves a few dollars on purchasing a certified certificate.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToSearch.htm#TranscriptionAgent

It would appear that the date of birth for William is not the same on his marriage certificate as the burial record.  I wonder why his death registration on the Qld index and the burial record have only recorded him as William.  Was is full name on the death certificate?

Cheers
Cando

Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: MJ53 on Sunday 11 April 10 11:34 BST (UK)
Chando
You are so good at this.  I've been spending hours and getting nowhere.  Death cert only has William Jackson but father is William Henry. Thanks for tip on transcriptions  this is nearly half price I have been paying.  These are the things I need to know.
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 11 April 10 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi Mj 53

I might purchase that Sydney Jackson birth cert and see if william is a sibling.   MJ

You can request a PARTIAL Transcription if you are only seeking to learn one aspect of a record.
Sue

Sue
Title: Re: Marriage JACKSON/TUCKWELL
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 11 April 10 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi again Mj 53
You will get the best results from the Rchat group if you give the most accurate and detailed information possible in the first place.

Sometimes it may seem tedious to type it out, but, in the long run, searchers will be saved the time-consuming business of seeking information in the wrong direction or which is already known.  It saves helpers from covering old ground all over again. :D

Certificate details are a case in point.

It is surprising how small things do matter in the overall picture.

Sue