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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kilkenny => Topic started by: MJ53 on Sunday 11 April 10 05:15 BST (UK)
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I have Edward Kealy 1797-1867 came to Australia as convict in 1822 born at Castle Dorough Kilkenny, co Kilkenny and what apears to be his son Patrick 1817-1901 born at Mahooly, Kilkenny. Edward must have been married before his conviction and he started a new family with Mary Lannen in 1824. looks like Patrick came looking for father in 1835.
Marilyn
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I dont see any townlands in Co. Kilkenny with names of 'Castle Dorough' or 'Mahooly', so I cant help with working out a distance between them. You can search the townland database at : www.thecore.com/seanruad and see if anything looks familiar..
Shane
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I wonder could Castle Dorough be Durrow, Laois, not too far from Kilkenny? There is a 16th century castle there. Maybe the family worked there. Other than that Castlecomer springs to mind. Could Mahooly be Muckalee, Kilkenny?
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These explanations both sound feasible Durrow being spelt wrong and the Irish pronunciation could be Muckalee. I often have tried saying names out loud to think of different spelling. Are these places Castle Durrow and Muckalee close to each other because Edward Kealy 1797-1867 could have worked as a farm labourer. When sent to Australia for 7 years was given and overseer's position so have to assume he had some knowledge to be assigned before he arrives. He left behind a 5 year old son who when 18 came to Australia. It is the son recorded as born in Mahooly/Muckalee.
Thanks
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Durrow, County Laois and Muckalee, County Kilkenny are just over 25km apart by road - see google map Durrow to Muckalee (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Muckalee,+County+Kilkenny,+Ireland&daddr=durrow,+county+laois&geocode=FSzlJAMdAASS_ynHC8cYzz5dSDHiC7S6p8cAJg%3BFelXJgMdHC-P_ylhx0IMJRhdSDHwgjGXqccACg&hl=en&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=52.78134,-7.274765&sspn=0.18648,0.574722&ie=UTF8&ll=52.779924,-7.301788&spn=0.186485,0.574722&z=11)
Shane
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If you look at this 1st edition OSI map (1820s/40s) you can actually see a property to the west of Durrow town marked as Castle Durrow : Durrow Town (http://ims0.osiemaps.ie/website/publicviewer/main.aspx#V1,640646,677415,6) (click on historic, or historic bw options)
Shane
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MJ53 I think Castle Durrow is definitely right see this http://www.igp-web.com/laois/civilparishes/DurrowCP.htm
Durrow was known as Castle-Durrow. It was chiefly in the barony of Galmoy, Co Kilkenny
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Thank you
I now know Patrick Kealy and Katherine Bowe were married 3 May 1843 Catholic Church, Muckalee, Kilkenny. Now my question is where is ballyfoyle were they were both born. All the time I try to understand the county, parish system ?
Thanks
Marilyn
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Thank you
I now know Patrick Kealy and Katherine Bowe were married 3 May 1843 Catholic Church, Muckalee, Kilkenny. Now my question is where is ballyfoyle were they were both born. All the time I try to understand the county, parish system ?
Thanks
Marilyn
There's a townland named Ballyfoyle just 4km north of Mukalee - see google map : Mukalee to Ballyfoyle (http://www.google.ie/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Ballyfoyle,+County+Kilkenny&daddr=Muckalee,+County+Kilkenny&hl=en&geocode=FZ57JAMdh5-R_ym_5bPbXjldSDGRd7sZqMcAJg%3BFSzlJAMdAASS_ynHC8cYzz5dSDHiC7S6p8cAJg&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=52.749612,-7.207936&sspn=0.177888,0.437393&ie=UTF8&z=13)
from memory (so might not be perfect...) - list of land divisions, from largest to smallest :
Province
County
Poor Law Union (Registration District)
Barony
Civil Parish
Townland
The borders of some of these can get a bit complicated - e.g.. townlands can sometimes be split between civil parishes, Poor Law union districts can cover areas in more than one county etc..
As well as these there are Catholic parishes, which are different to Civil/Church of Ireland parishes, and RC and CofI Diocese.
Shane
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It then is not unbieviable that they are they same
. I can take my dog for a walk of 4 km.
So in that time it would be maybe a party of their life to walk that far for work.
Marilyn
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Hi just reading your posts on muckalee & Ballyfoyle. I;m sure you probably pinpointed them by now -but if not most likely the births were registered in church in ballyfoyle which would be the parish as such. I only know this as my own ancestors came from muckalee & were baptized in ballyfoyle. Also the rural townlands in co. kilkenny are very small ( and I mean small) - in some cases only a few kms. Townslands 'moved' between church parishes over the years also. a good is kilkenny geneology and also RotheHouse in kilkenny has extesnive records .
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Muckalee cemetery;
Jack
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Glad to see you tracked him down. good for you.
I'll be visiting there shortly myself to check a few headstones.
Thanks for the reply.
Noel W