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Title: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Pippakit on Sunday 11 April 10 01:08 BST (UK)
I have a 1897 silver fob engraved with fancy ornate initials, but the trouble is they are too fancy! I can't make them out. I don't know which member of my family it belonged to, so the initials should give me a clue.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Xenoid on Sunday 11 April 10 03:16 BST (UK)
Yes! I see what you mean  :o

My suggestions would be four letters, I think I can see a "T"  a "C" and an "S" with a large "R".

The wide stroke going across the top looks to be part of the "R" with the tail ending up at the extreme right!
The first letter on the left looks to be an old style "T".

Regards, Ken
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: PrueM on Sunday 11 April 10 03:18 BST (UK)
I thought it might be "HCR"  :-\
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: dblun on Sunday 11 April 10 03:34 BST (UK)
I'm leaning HCR as well with the R possibly a family surname ??
D Blun

Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Xenoid on Sunday 11 April 10 04:24 BST (UK)
I found this example of "Ribbon Script".

The letters are TFP

Perhaps you should consult an oldstyle hand engraver!
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Xenoid on Sunday 11 April 10 05:51 BST (UK)
Hmmmm... I'm starting to think it is HCR as well  :-[

Here is an example that is "clearly" CRG

What I thought was an "S" is probably the "straight bit" of the "R".

Regards, Ken
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: LoneyBones on Sunday 11 April 10 06:33 BST (UK)
I can see H B S.  ???
Not an excelent example....

Leonie.

Added; changed my mind, HRS. With bottom of H tailored to fit the shield.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: sampoony on Sunday 11 April 10 10:38 BST (UK)
Looks like HCR to me.
John C
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: hmcmillan29 on Sunday 11 April 10 10:48 BST (UK)


Hi Pippakit,

Im deffo seeing the letter "H".  The letters C and R are a possible, but not 100% sure.

Hazel  :)
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: hmcmillan29 on Sunday 11 April 10 10:50 BST (UK)

Hi...I just realised I spelt your name wrong!

Sorry.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Pippakit on Sunday 11 April 10 11:35 BST (UK)
Thank you everybody for your replies. My family surnames include Ruscoe and Rathbone, so I am pleased that you think the last letter is an R. The fob comes from that side of the family, I am inclined towards the Ruscoes as I don't think the Rathbones would have had the money for such things!

However I willl now have to investigate a bit further as I can't think who would have had HC as their first names. There is a Henry, but as far as I am aware he didn't have a middle name.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Colin Cruddace on Sunday 11 April 10 23:07 BST (UK)
It could possibly be TCR, where the C has 2 downstrokes to make up for its otherwise simple form, and the first downstroke doesn't have flourishes like the other letters.
I can't see a bridging line to make and H of the first letter.

Colin
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: PrueM on Monday 12 April 10 00:52 BST (UK)
Looking again, I think Colin might be right about the first letter not being an H.  What I thought was a cross-line is actually a scratch in the silver.

I've gone over each of the engraved lines with a different colour.  This doesn't necessarily mean that one colour = one letter, I just thought it might make it easier for people to sort out all the different curlicues  ;)

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Colin Cruddace on Monday 12 April 10 02:17 BST (UK)
Nicely done Prue. :)

What I see is the Yellow line as part of the flourishing R, which leaves the purple C shape in the middle to join up with the red C.

Colin
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: PrueM on Monday 12 April 10 02:21 BST (UK)
I think the purple "C" should be a separate colour, actually, now that I look at it...the flourish out to the left of the "R" ends where the top curl of the "C" begins.

Still, I'm glad you think it has helped!  ;D
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: Pippakit on Monday 12 April 10 04:28 BST (UK)
Wow, thanks Prue! The colours certainly make it much easier to see the letters.

I can see what you mean Colin about the first letter being a T. This was actually my first thought when I got this fob - either a J or a T.

It gives me more food for thought as to who it might have belonged to.

Thank you everybody for your input.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Tell Me What These Initials Are?
Post by: LoneyBones on Monday 12 April 10 10:06 BST (UK)
That helps a lot Prue.   :D
I still think it's H R S. Also, I think the central R is larger and probably the family name, with the H S as given names.

Leonie.