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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Caernarvonshire => Topic started by: Joy123 on Saturday 10 April 10 22:53 BST (UK)
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hello everyone
where would someone who died in Bangor 1859 be burried?
his name was August Robert Martin, and was the Editor of the North Wales chronical when he died, his gravestone (bought by the freemasons) is over 6ft high
I would love to find photographs of him but don't know where to look
Joyce
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oops spelt his name wrong
Augustus Robert Martin!
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try glanadda cemetery bangor in google search box jimbach
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thanks Jim
do you know if the graveyard has been indexed?
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try glanadda cemetery bangor index............in google search box .....j
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Hi Joyce,
Re: Glanadda cemetery - this might help: (at Gwynedd archives)
http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/DATRhagorolNET/RhestrEitem.aspx?iaith=en&rhif_archif=12&rhif_rhiant=36179&maint_testun=100&cyferbyniad=
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thanks for that link Rhos, I see from reading it the earlest dates for for these cemeterys is 1861, the grave I am looking for is 1859, does anyone know if there are any old churches in Bangor with graves?
Joyce
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Hi Joyce
Have you tried the Bangor Civic Society for more information?
http://www.bangorcivicsociety.org.uk
Heather
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thanks for the link Heather, didn't know about that site, have just asked for help there so fingers crossed
Joyce
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I will check the photos I have of Glanadda cemetary headstones later today. If it is that large then I probably have it. I also have a list of many of the printers in North Wales and their families somewhere, will dig it out and have a look.
There is a pdf on the Gwynedd archives for the Chronicle http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=B1202
Augustus died in the Oct., Nov., Dec. quarter of 1859.
Can't find a photo of the headstone so since I have covered 2/3rds of this cemetary, if he is there then he may be in the South West corner near the road which is the section I haven't covered.
There is a family tree on Ancestry.com that looks like it has this person in it.
Other details are B. 1805 - Gosport, Hampshire, England, Married 3 May 1832 Prestbury, England to Charlote Browne
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thanks for the help guys. I'm still looking for a cemetery or churchyard from the 1850's. The main cemetery's didn't open till 1862, and he was buried in 1859. I would have thought his own newspaper would have carried a story of his burial, as he owed it. Does anyone have access to The North Wales Chronicale for Novemer 1859?
Joyce
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A small point worth mentioning is that amongst the photos I have of Glanadda cemetary there are deaths that go back to at least 1804 and probably before that. It is only the records kept that start in the 1860s or just after.
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I will keep my fingers crossed you find something welshgen
joyce
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hi welshgen
was wondering if you manage to look for the grave of Augustus Robert Martin?
Joyce
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Joyce
See my post (about 3rd or 4th) in this thread which explains the situation at Bangor in the time period you refer to and provides a document refernce at the University Archives.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,292458.0.html
Gwil
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There is refernce in that thread to Pentir Churchyard. I have checked that MI and he is not shown on that.
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thank you for the link Gwil xxx
can someone translate this for me please
Joyce
Dilynwyd y brodyr Brown gan Augustus Robert Martin, gŵr a fu eisoes yn golygu'r N.W.C. am sbel yn 1827, cyn mynd i Lerpwl ar staff y Liverpool Mail. Bu A.R. Martin yn argraffu, yn cyhoeddi ac yn golygu'r N.W.C. hyd ei farwolaeth yn hanner cant a phump oed ar 13 Tachwedd 1859.
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ERBYN diwedd y pumdegau yr oedd y N.W.C. yn amlwg fel prif newyddiadur yr eglwys sefydledig yn ardal deupen Menai, ac yn ddigamsyniol yn lladmerydd brwd y blaid Dorïaidd.
Olynwyd A.R. Martin fel perchennog yn 1859 gan John Kenmuir Douglas, ac ef a fu'n gyfrifol am olygu ac argraffu a chyhoeddi'r newyddiadur hyd ddiwedd Medi 1873, pryd y trosglwyddwyd y busnes i'w feibion Kenmuir Whitworth Douglas, a weithredai fel rheolwr-olygydd, a Malcolm Percy Douglas.
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Hi Joyce,
A rough translation for you:
The Brown brothers were succeded by Augustus Robert Martin, a gentleman who had previously edited the NWC for a short while in 1827 before going to Liverpool on the staff of the Liverpool mail. AR Martin printed, published and edited the NWC until his death aged 55 on 13th November 1859.
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By the end of the 50's, the NWC was prominent as the leading newspaper of the established church in the area between the 2 ends of the Menai, and was without doubt a fervent advocate of the Tory party.
AR Martin was succeeded as owner in 1859 by John Kenmuir Douglas, and it was he who was responsible for the editing, printing and publishing the newspaper until the end of September 1873, when the business was transferred to his sons, Kenmuir Whitworth Douglas who acted as manager-editor, and Malcolm Percy Douglas
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thanks for the translation and your pm I really do appreciate all the help I am recieving guys xxx
I can't believe we had a family member who was a tory!!! lol lol...
Joyce