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Can anyone tell me where I can find information about 42nd Highlanders and Greenlaw's Military Prison. Many thanks. Kirsten McTavish
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I am sure that the 42nd Highland regiment is now known as the Black Watch - a search should find their museum.
Stuart
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Thanks Stuart I will try them. Many thanks
Kirsten McTavish
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Kirsten,
If it is a particular soldier you are interested in what is the full name. I could try the PRO site.
Stuart
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McTavish
I have the pro names index [indexes to some miscellaneous
personal names occurring in documents at the
Public Record Office]
if you have a name let me know i'll see what i can find
jaq
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Hi, this might help
http://www.regiments.org/milhist/uk/inf/042-751.htm
http://www.mclink.it/personal/MC7831/english/alzo%20zero%20brit/42ndbrit.html
I think the home of the regimental museum as at Belhousie Castle, Perth (Scotland - of course)
http://www.armymuseums.org.uk/amot-search/default.asp?Category=Amot&Service=Museum-Display&reference=0000000018
The black watch website has info on the museum, history etc with pictures
http://www.theblackwatch.co.uk/newsite/
Greenlaw was originally built to house French prisoners (1813) but the war finished before it was complete so it became the depot of the Royal Scots and later became a military prison (and barracks). It is by Penicuik which is about 15 miles south of Edinburgh. It became Glencorse Barracks and is now demolished.
Hope this helps a bit
Lesley ;)
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Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but I had problems with the computer. The name is Samuel C Henry and he was born in Dumfries, Scotland. His parents' were John Henry (Sculptor) and Alice Cameron, who may have come from Ireland. Look forward to hearing from you. :)
Regards
Kirsten McTavish
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Hello Lesley
Sorry for the delay in coming back to you but I had computer problems. When did Greenlaw become a barrack? ??? It may well be that Samuel C Henry was stationed there and not as a prisoner as I first thought, though his poem refers to Greenlaw Military Prison. Many thanks for the information you have given.
Regards
Kirsten McTavish
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Glencorse Barracks are situated just outside the Midlothian town of Penicuik.
Glencorse Barracks date from 1803, when they were first used to hold prisoners, then known as Greenlaw Military Prison, during the Napoleonic Wars before being bought outright from the private estate on which they stood (1812). The only surviving building from that time is the former Guardroom, which is now the Clocktower. A memorial gateway to the Royal Scots Regiment marks the entrance to the Barracks, though it is no longer in use.
In 1804, Greenlaw House, leased from the Trotters at the Bush, near Roslin, was converted into a depôt for French prisoners of war. Additional buildings were erected in 1813, at a cost of £100,000, to house 6,000 prisoners and their guards. However, the Napoleonic Wars came to an end a year later and the prisoners were sent home.
Most of the prisoners were crews of privateers - nearly 300 men were confined in the mansion house. Ensign Hugh Maxwell was convicted of culpable homicide for the death, in January 1807, of Charles Cottier, a prisoner in Greenlaw House. Maxwell was the commander of a guard of 36 men of the Lanarkshire Militia, who were, at the time, based in Penicuik.
A monument which was erected at Valleyfield in memory of those prisoners who died in captivity is now surrounded by houses in this redeveloped area of the river valley.
Nothing remains of Greenlaw House. However, it is thought that the cellars of the Officers' Mess owe their existence to this 17th century mansion.
Although for a while is it was a Military Prison, the barracks were little used between 1815 and 1875, when they became depôt of the army of the south-east of Scotland, being converted at a cost of £30,000.
For some years, the barracks were the depot of the Royal Scots. The barracks became the training depot for the Lowland Brigade in 1964. In 1970, following the formation of the Scottish Division, junior soldiers from the Lowland Brigade moved from Glencorse to Gordon Barracks, in Aberdeen. Adult Highland Brigade recruits moved from Gordon Barracks to The Scottish Division Depot at Glencorse Barracks on the same day.
Glencorse is one of the three barracks comprising the City of Edinburgh Garrison. today, it is the home for The Royal Highland Fusiliers, 2nd Batallion, The Royal Regiment of Scotland - RHF (2 SCOTS).
Within the City of Edinburgh, Redford Barracks is the base for the guard of Edinburgh Castle. The resident Infantry Battalion has been the 3rd Battalion, The Rifles (formerly 2nd Battalion, The Light Infantry) since 2003, when they took over from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. It is also the location of 51st (Scottish) Brigade's Regional Training Centre, used for all Territorial Army basic training in Scotland, a base for the Headquarters of 52 Brigade as well as housing other administrative functions.
The Royal Scots Borderers, 1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Scotland and The Band of the Royal Regiment of Scotland are located in Dreghorn Barracks, also in the city.
It has not been demolished!
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hi I have just seen this. My 3 times great grand parents were there in 1858 as it is written on their daughters birth certificate. Would he have been a prisoner - bc gives occupation as private. Any info much appreciated M x
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. My 3 times great grand parents were there in 1858 ... Would he have been a prisoner - bc gives occupation as private...
Maybe! Maybe he was a guard?
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Thank yu I would much rather him be a guard than a prisoner but how can I find out this for sure ?