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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Bedfordshire => Topic started by: familychat on Thursday 08 April 10 05:07 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am looking to confirm the DOB of my GG grandfather, and his final resting place
His name is James EMERY son of Isaac Emery 1801 and Elizabeth Croot 1804 born in Potton Bedfordshire England I believe he was born sept or Nov 1824.first two wives died he stayed with his 3rd wife Emma lenton up untill he tried the kill her and I have lost all trace of him from about 1881. they lived at 92 bemerton street Islington on the 1881 census
Also his brother William EMERY DOB also have Sept nov 1824 where they twins?
Any info on James EMERY will be most welcomed as he has been driving just crazy
kind regards Jane
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Any reason why you think he was in Australia?
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Hi Merlin,
no, I had though for a long time that he died somewhere in London. However his brother thomas Emery was deported for far less crimes than James committed.
others also think william emery was deported too but i don't think he was
regards
Jane
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Yes, I was curious as you have him born/baptised 1824 & still on the 1881 census so that makes him at least 57yo, not that people didn't travel o/s at that age, just erring more on the side that he didn't :)
I'd say that seeing you have Thomas & James both listed as born 1824 it's more likely you have a baptism of both of them on the same day which was quite common for parents to have more than one child baptised together but there is always the possibility they were twins.
It's possible he died in an institution or even gaol if he tried to kill his wife :o
Just my thoughts anyway...
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Hi there,
Perhaps James death could be in the second quarter of 1884, registered at Holborn, London and referenced as Vol 1b, page 558 ? If so, then he was aged 63, giving birth year of about 1821.
Jane, I cannot see where he came to Australia, transportation of convicts to any of the colonies in OZ had long ceased by 1881 when you lost track of him ...
Perhaps if you post on the Middlesex board they will be able to help find your James...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,24.0.html
Cheers, JM
.... he stayed with his 3rd wife Emma lenton up untill he tried the kill her and I have lost all trace of him from about 1881. they lived at 92 bemerton street Islington on the 1881 census ....
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Thanks Merlin and just Moi
That one at Holborn i have looked at a number of times but James ages on the census and his weddings didn't fit. i know ages are very estimated
I have already paid for middlesex archivest to spend sometime looking for James and she has said he died between 1881 and 1891
thanks for you help
regards Jane
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Hello Jane
I take it you checked out the Beds Archives gaol database. James Emery of Potton is recorded a number of times between 1841 age 16 & 1856 age 32 (the last offence neglect of family) making him born 1824/1825. In 1844 his brother, Thomas Emery aged 17 was sentenced to 10 years transportation to Van Diemens Land via the 'Pestonjee Bomanjee' in Sept 1845.
Also from the Beds Archives catalogue I found some references to James Emery of Potton, one being the attempted suicide of James Emery's wife in June 1887.
http://apps.bedscc.gov.uk/bedsccis3/search.aspx
Just enter emery in name & potton in place & it should return a set of results
regards John
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Hi there,
Tasmanian Archives
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08eh/ (the image is number 55 of 204)
have a James Emery arriving on Pestongee Bomangee (2) (its second voyage to VDL with convicts)
He was tried for a serious crime in company at Somerset 31 March 1846, the ship departed 25 Oct 1846, arrived 17 Feb 1847. That James was aged 23, Single, Protestant and he could read. His native place was recorded as Near Bath. His sentence was Life... He was still in Tasmania in 1856, and a pardon was issued in Feb 1857.
There's also a Thomas Emery arriving on Pestongee Bomangee (1) and that voyage was in late 1845.
Cheers, JM
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thanks John,
I have not seen that Bedfordshire & Luton Archives Service
Catalogue before.
It is very usefull when looking at this emery family, not saying they were alway in trouble! the strange thing is Thomas Emery aquired a chicken and some pototes and was deported for it. James was in and out of Goal for and was never deported.
thanks again
Jane
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Hello Jane,
Was widow/wife Emma back in Potton for 1891 census ?
& have you seen this topic
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,426065.0.html
OK now that I've progressed to the 2nd page, I see you have !
regards
John
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Thanks just moi
The age fits but he was marred 3 times all in london and bedfordshire area and had kids up untill about 1868.
regards
Jane
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Yes John,
Emma was a widow on 1891 census but was together with James in 1881.
It would be really great if i could find any of James and Emma descendant as they may possible know what happen but have not found any as yet.
I believe that James and Emma's daughter Emma Emery dob 1870 migrated to Australia after she married a Henry sharman. perhap i should turn my focus on that
I had been stuck on James for so long I packed all my family tree stuff away out of frustration
thanks for your help
kind regards Jane
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Hi Merlin,
I apologise. I had know idea where you got the Austrialia from in my question, in your first reply. I am a newby to the site I didn't realise untill i logged out and in again that Austrialia showed on the post.
I didn't place that in, it must default to where you live.
I will look next time I log a post and try to get it right.. he he
Regards Jane
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Jane; There are 12 contact names on Genes Reunited that have have James Emery born 1823/1827 Potton in their trees. Have you tried to contact any ?
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Hi John,
I have a number of contacts on genes, I will log in and take another look
thanks
Jane
yes, I have been in contact with all the people on genes with James in there tree .. none are direct relatives. Jane
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MAJM.... That James Emery you are referring too arriving on board "Pestongee Bomangee" is in fact my GG Grandfather.
Cheers
Rob