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Title: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Monday 17 May 04 15:34 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone
As of Next Tuesday (5th of Jue 2007) can now start doing the lookups again.
I go everyweek  to the lds on a tuesday if anyone would like a lookup done.
they have CERTIFICATES to view from 1855-1881 and also the Scottish Birth Marriage and Death index  from 1855-1955 this covers all of Scotland

Also 1841-1891  Census for Fife and for most of scotland
if you require a lookup on any census except the 1881-1891 please give me the place were they would be on the census as i cant do blancket searches it would take to long. Also if you require a Lanarkshire lookup like GLASGOW could you please give a possible street or parish there is alot of films for glasgow and it justs takes to long to go through   Sorry but this Lds Center doesnt have records for Inverneshire and Nairnshire . List of Census Area they have


All of Fife Scotland
Aberdeen
Angus
Lanarkshire
Midlothian
Perthshire
West Lothian
Stirlingshire

If you require a look up of the 1881 i have this at home so can lookup anywere know problem.

the 1891 census  has an index so can look up a name if you are not sure were they might be.


1901 Census


If anyone needs a 1901 lookup i can do that at the local library for Fife but this will only be for fife and as it doesnt have an index you need to give me alot of info because i wont be able to do blanket searches for names.

If you require a 1901 census lookup please staight this in your reply

So need as much info you can give me.

They also have Fife Old Parish records  but need as much info on this as you can give me.
Also have Irish Marriages  from 1845 app there isnt any earlier than this so dont ask for any further back than this date  and please give a date i will lookup 2 years either way .
Angela(Fifer) :)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: ~meg on Monday 17 May 04 20:10 BST (UK)
Fifer, Your generous offer of lookups is very much appreciated!  I'd like a lookup request on the 1841 Fife Census, if possible, for a Morris family:
Henry Morris, b.c1817, Abdie.
Janet Morris, wife
Euphemia, daughter, b.1837, Dunino.

Hope this is enough info?
meg
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 19 May 04 10:36 BST (UK)
Hi Meg
Do you have any idea were they might be on the 1841 census as it would be easier to search for them.
 I will be going to book into the lds tommorow so will have a look for you then and get back to you as soon as i find something.


Angela
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: ~meg on Wednesday 19 May 04 19:57 BST (UK)
Angela, Hopefully they will be in either Abdie or Dunino, but I can't be sure.  Please don't go to any length looking for them as I do realize that I haven't really given enough for you to go on.  meg
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Wednesday 19 May 04 20:55 BST (UK)
Hi fifer

Perhaps you may be able to help me with a query please.

William married in Macclesfield, Cheshire in 1830, but he lost his wife in childbirth in 1848; two weeks later losing his son as well - so he upped and left Macclesfield and went to Southwell Notts where his eldest daughter was now living and working in Maythorne Silk Mill as a twister.
But I then found a second marriage for him and a new wife as follows:

Parish Register - Glasgow Old Parish
1850 13th February :
William Swarbrooke, silk throwster in Glasgow & Margaret Wylie
residing there married 1st Feb by John Graham, Independent
Minister in Glasgow.

A son James was born to them in 1852 at Paisley in Scotland (site of a silk mill?) so it is probably safe to assume that they were there for the 1851 census, but I know he was back in Southwell, Notts when a daughter Sarah was born 28th December 1856.

Is it possible that you could possibly find an entry in the Scottish 1851 census, possibly Paisley or district.

I would be most gratefull

Chris in 1066Land
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 20 May 04 08:15 BST (UK)
Hi Meg,Chris

I will check for both of you when up at the lds today will let you know later today if i have any luck finding them.



Angela
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 20 May 04 16:18 BST (UK)
Hi Meg and Chris

Sorry there wasabit of a problem with the lds today and they had to close.
So it will be next week before i can check them for you .


Sorry Again


Angela
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: ~meg on Thursday 20 May 04 16:26 BST (UK)
Fifer, No apologies needed!  Will wait to hear at your convenience.  Thanks again for this kind offer.  meg
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: floridagirl on Thursday 20 May 04 22:47 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,
Just wondered if you would be able to look up anything in Falkirk if I send you the details. I have trawled through countless Scottish Records for a marriage for my aunts ancestors because her great grandparents were both born in Falkirk, and she reckoned they married up there before they moved to Liverpool (she didn't know when) I eventually found that they married in Liverpool ( I came across it by chance when I was looking for a marriage on my own side) She wants to find the births her great grandparents and has a good idea of when they were born.
I would appreciate any help
Thanks
Viv ::) ::)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Thursday 20 May 04 23:08 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Thats no problem

Details have not been known for more than 150 years - so whats 7 more days.

Chris in 1066Land
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Friday 21 May 04 10:44 BST (UK)
Hi Viv
yes i would be glad to help just sned me details and i will look them up for you when i can.


Angela
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 02 June 04 12:38 BST (UK)
Hi viv
Do you still need that lookup done let me know before tommorow if you do as ill be going to lds tommorow.

For Everyone still waiting on a reply i will be looking for the information for you tommorow sorry for the delay ive had a busy week with helping my sister move to a new house.But will definatly go tommorow so will post any replys i have tommorow afternoon,evening




Fifer
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Patches on Wednesday 02 June 04 16:24 BST (UK)
Can you help with my McNalty man, I've tried everywhere on net including Scotlandspeople but Fife records seem hard to find.  The man I'm looking for was my great great grandfather, the details I have are:

John McNalty
Army discharge papers say born in Parish of Lochgelly Fife, attested at Edinburgh on 9 July 1879 for the Royal Engineers at the age of 20 3/12 years.  He was discharged 8 July 1891 in Chatham Kent.
His marriage cert says his father was Alexander McNalty.
His sons marriage cert says John's middle names are Henry Patten but Army and his marriage cert show his name as just John McNalty.

I've tried everywhere I can think of to find him or his father but have had no luck.

If you can help with any info on him or know of any sites which cover Fife I would be most grateful, thank you.
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 03 June 04 16:33 BST (UK)
Hi meg
had a look for your morris but im afraid there isnt a 1841 for abdie that was one of the places that went down on the ship there wasabout 6 other places as well as abdie that there isnt the 1841 .
I also checked Dunino but there wasnt any sign of them


Sorry


Fifer
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 03 June 04 16:35 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Checked Paisley 1851 Census For you but couldnt findthem on either of the films for paisley started to check Glascow itself with the parents being married there but there id 5 films for that district so it may take a while to find them.



Fifer
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 03 June 04 16:42 BST (UK)
Hi Patches

Had a look for your John Mcnalty could only find 2 johns born Lochgelly for the right time going that you said he was 20 when he joined the army in 1879 but none of them have a father Alexander.

Both entries i found

Were

John Mcknolty  Born  24 MAr 1824 1858  Lochgelly
Father John Mcknolty and Margaret Kelly

And John Mcnolty  Born 19 MAr 1859 Lochgelly  Father Anthony Mcknolty/Margaret Linch.



that was all i could find i could look again next week for you i checked for 1857 as well there was none there.


Let me know if you require the rest of the details of the above it will be just awritten copy of them though as the lds doesnt have there machines fixed to a printer



Fifer
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: ~meg on Thursday 03 June 04 18:02 BST (UK)
re Morris Lookup on Census:
Fifer,
Thanks for looking.  Appreciate your time and generousity.  meg
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 03 June 04 21:10 BST (UK)
Hi Patches
While Searching the Death Index on Rootsweb
I came across the following death Entry dont know if you already have it as you didnt say but thought i would post it anyway



John patten Mcnalty
Death 1892 Dec Quar  Kent
no 2a  326

If you send for this it may give you his mothersname which may be something else i can go on up here


hope this is some help

Angela
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Patches on Thursday 03 June 04 21:39 BST (UK)
Hi Angela

Thanks everso.  It looks like this man is going to be hard to track down, I've tried everwhere to find him (I can't help thinking there is something amiss with the info on army or marriage cert), I think you're right I'm going to have to spend some pennies and get the death certificate, which'll hopefully give me a few more clues.  I'll post again when I get it but thanks for trying.

Patches
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Patches on Friday 11 June 04 13:45 BST (UK)
Hi Angela

Got the death cert but it doesnt say much, just that he died 11 Dec 1892 and 33 he was a Stonemason (journeyman), his name was shown as John Patten McNalty, and the address is the right one for the family.

looks like I'll not be going much further with this one

Thanks for your help

Patches
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: nutkin on Monday 14 June 04 01:47 BST (UK)
I am looking for information on a Yuill family that resided in High Church Paisley in 1860 and Abbey, Paisley in 1861.  Dugald Yuill (b. 1836) and his wife Janet Cochrane (b. 1839).  Dugald was the son of James Yuill (b. 1806) and Margaret Hardie (b. 1807).  In March 1861, Dugald and Janet had a son James Yull (a bit early as they were only married for 5 months when he was born).

Could you look up the 1851 and 1861 Census for James and Margaret Yuill and Dugald and Janet Yuill?  The Yuill's worked in as weavers in the shawl manufacturing business.  Dugald and his wife and kids came to the US in 1868, settling in NY as a block cutter.  He became moderately successful, owning his own home and remaining active in Scottish clan groups.  

Any information on their households would be greatly appreciated.  Not much is known about the family in Scotland and I would love to learn more. Please let me know if you need more information.  
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Wednesday 16 June 04 16:32 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Just noticed you message posted on 3rd June

Checked Paisley 1851 Census For you but couldnt findthem on either of the films for paisley started to check Glascow itself with the parents being married there but there id 5 films for that district so it may take a while to find them.

Apologies for not answering it earlier, but as previously said, have only just found it.

Thanks for looking, and keeping my fingers crosssed that you may still be able to locate them.

Chris in 1066Land
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: twink on Wednesday 16 June 04 18:40 BST (UK)
Hi

Please could i request a couple of census look ups...

Aberdeen

William and Caroline WEBSTER (in 1881 they were in Shiprow, Aberdeen St Nicholas)

Henry and Isabella ELRICK (in 1881 they were in Causeway End, Aberdeen St Nicholas)

Many many thanks
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 17 June 04 08:33 BST (UK)
Hi twink

What year are you wanting me to search for you



Fifer
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center
Post by: twink on Thursday 17 June 04 11:21 BST (UK)
1871 please
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center Yuill
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 17 June 04 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi Nutkin


Here is the information you requested


Film 0103747   Renfrewshire   539  ABBEY

1851 Census

Stock Street   Formarely part of Abbey Paisley



James  Yuill    head   MAr   44   Forman ? Paintwork   Paisley
margaret Yuill  Wife  MAr   44                                     Paisley
Alexander Yuill  Son  Unm  21  ? Block Cutter              Paisley
MArgaret  yuill  Dau  Unm  19    Cloth ? Painwork      PAisley
Helen    Yuill    Dau   Unm  17        "                           Paisley
Dougal  Yuill    Son   Unm  15  Ass to MAchine Painter  Paisley
James Yuill     Son              11  "                                  Paisley
William Yuill   Son                5                                      Paisley



Abbey PAisley  page 2   Enumeration Dis 32(2)
1861

4 Stock Street

James Yuill   Head   MAr   55  Shawl Weaver      Paisley  
Margaret     Wife    MAr    55                              paisley
Margaret     Daug   unm   29  thread Factory Worker  Paisley
James          Son     Unm   21  Shawl Worker    Paisley




Also came accross the following will be connected also

Abbey Paisley   PAge21   enumeration Dist 20  1861

95 Faucet Bank
John Yuill    Head  AMr 40   Shawl Manufactor   Paisley
Marion         Wife         30  Employer ?              Paisley
mary           Dau            5                                 Paisley
Jane           Dau             4                                  Paisley
William       Son              2                                Paisley



let me know if i  can help you further


Fifer :)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 17 June 04 20:23 BST (UK)
Hiya Nutkin
Also found the following on Familysearch.org


 All Countries
Father: Dugald Yool, Mother: Agnes Johnson
Married 21 Nov 1802 Middle Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
 1. AGNESS YOOLL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: 03 JAN 1804 Oakshaw East Associate Congregation, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
 
 2. JAMES YOOLL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 09 FEB 1806 Oakshaw East Associate Congregation, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland

Dont know if you had this but thought i would post it anyway for you in case


Fifer
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Sunday 20 June 04 02:30 BST (UK)
Fifer,

Thank you so much for the information on the Yuill family.  I have found some information on Familysearcg.  I will probably ask you for more later this week.  I greatly appreciate your time.  It is so hard to get the Scottish Census in the US and I really want to learn more about my mother's family.

Thank you again!- Kristin (Nutkin) ;D
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Karenn on Sunday 20 June 04 05:16 BST (UK)
Hello Angela,
I hoping you can help me with two families in the Newton, Midlothian area. They are David Phillip b 1792, wife Isabella and children Jean b 1830, Elizabeth , 1827, James b 1825 and Alexander b 1822.  There is also a son, David b 1815 and wife Janet and their children Elizabeth b 1838 and Mark b 1840.

If you can give me any details either with the 1841 or 1851 census, that would be much appreciated.  Thank you

Karenn ::)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Monday 21 June 04 14:12 BST (UK)
Fifer,

After all your fantastic help with my Yuill family, I am going to ask about my Cochrane family.  I would like to find Michael Cochrane and wife Margaret Young Cochrane in the 1841 and 1851 Census.  They had a daughter born in 1839 in High Church, Paisley, Renfrew.  So I am assuming they were still residing there.  The pickle is Michael was born in Stewarton, Renfrewshire and Margaret were born and they married in Loudoun, Ayreshire.  So they might be in Ayreshire.


Thank you for all your help!- Nutkin ;D
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Monday 21 June 04 14:42 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone

I Will check all new Qeuries on Thursday and let you all know Thursday from 5pm onewards uk time



Angela :)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Libraryfor Karenn
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 24 June 04 16:56 BST (UK)
Hi Karenn


Here is the info you requested or atleast i think its the right one let me know if it isnt. couldnt make out alot of the address's


Film 0103733 Midlothian 693-701

1851 Census Cant make out street address only no 13 as the house No Sorry
Newton  
 
Isabella Philip   58    Lab   Wid   Midlothian  Inveresk with Mussleburgh
James Philp      25    LAb    S                    Newton
Charles Philp Gdson   10  Sch                       Newton


MArriage of David Philp /Isabella Sawers   18 Feb   1814 Newton

Christening of some kids of David and Isabella

Alexander C  21 April  1822   Inveresk with Mussleburgh
Jessie      C   18 July 1819        "
Sophia     C   30 MAr  1817      "
-------------------------------------------------------
Film 0103733 Midlothian 693-701

No 23    Neu  Dis   4 Newton

House no 13

David Philip    H   M   37   Coalminer             Newton
Janet             W  M    36                                Newton
Elizabeth       D   S    12                               Newton
MArk             S           11     Sch                    Newton
Tho's            S          9       Sch                     Newton
Jane             D          6                                 Newton
David           S          4                                  Newton
Andrew        S          2                                  Newton
James Shaw  Cousin  14    Coalminer           Newington ?


Here is some of the christining dates above above kids

Parents David Philip/Janet Wright MArried 2 Feb 1838 Newton

Elizabeth Philp C  29 July  1838
MArk        Philip C 26 JAn 1840
Thomas   Philip C 2 Dec   1841
--------------------------------------------------------


Also came across the following dont know if you have these


1841  Newton  Film   0101895   Midlothian  693-701

MArk Philips   55   Coalminer   Y
Jane Philips   57                     Y
Christina Philips 19                Y
JAmes Philips      16                 Y


MArk Philips and Jane are down for a marriage as Mark and Jean Adam  married 27 MAr 1805 Newton

Thought these could be connected because of the name mark



Also the following

David Philip   27   Coalminer   Y
Isabella          3                     Y
MArk                16m                Y


thats all i managed to find out hope this helps


Angela :)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library for Nutkin
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 24 June 04 17:02 BST (UK)
Hi Nutkin

Couldnt find much on these as they are really big films to look through and i dint manage to get through it all so i will check again next week.

but here is one entry i found on the 1841 Census

Film  0101929  Renfrew  573 PAisley   1841  Census
183 Smith Street   Paisley
MArgaret Cochrane  40   Sewer     No
Thomas Cochrane     19                  Y


Dont know if this is yours let me know if it isnt



Angela :)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 24 June 04 17:14 BST (UK)
Hiya Twink


Sorry i didnt manage to get yours looked up as someone else was using the film so i will try and get it next week for you.



Sorry again :(


Angela
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: twink on Thursday 24 June 04 17:41 BST (UK)
No problem.  You learn patience in the family history game.....  ;)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Thursday 24 June 04 17:53 BST (UK)
Fifer,

I do not think these are my Cochranes.  

Here is a bit more to narrow it down.  I have a marriage license of Michael and Margaret Cochrane's daughter,Janet,  from 1860.  Michael Cochrane is alive and his occupation is a light porter.  Janet Cochrane(the daughter) was born in High Church, Paisley ,Renfrew in 1839.  The marriage certificate is for High Church, Paisley, Renfrew in 1860.  I am assuming that they still lived there and Michael was alive.  The wife was born in 1805 in Loudoun, Ayr and I blieve but not sure that Michael was born in Renfrewshire.

I greatly appreciate your work.  Let me know if you need more details that can assist you.- Nutkin ;)
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: dubbleu_b on Friday 25 June 04 02:36 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm wondering if you would be able to look for LIVINGSTONE the next time you go.  My 4th grt-grandfather JOHN LIVINGSTONE (b. 1833) married CRAWFORD SPENCER (b. 1833) 31 Dec 1851 in Glasgow.  Unfortunately I have not yet uncovered the names of John's parents and wonder if you have access to any sources that may help locate them.

Thanks
Wendy
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Karenn on Friday 25 June 04 07:04 BST (UK)
Thank you Angela for all your help.

Cheers

Karenn ;D
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Jaki on Monday 28 June 04 11:53 BST (UK)
hi Fifer

When you have the time could you look for the following family in the 1841 and 1861 census. The following information was given to me as being from the 1851 census. All I really know about this family is that they were in Inverness and that there should be a Peter or Patrick born approx 1829. I have been told that it was in the Parish of Moy and Dalarossie, Knockandroo Village or Hamlet if that is of any help.

 NAME      HOUSEHOLD    AGE      BORN          PROFESSION

John Grant      Head      50 yrs     Elgin Buthil           Blacksmith
Elizabeth      Wife      45 yrs     Moy & Delarossie
John         Son      20 yrs      Moy & Delarossie       Blacksmith
Janet         Daughter   17 yrs     Moy & Delarossie        Scholar
Donald         Son      13 Yrs     Moy & Delarossie        Scholar
Eliza         Daughter   4 yrs     Moy & Delarossie           
Donald        Grandson   1 yr     Moy & Delarossie    

TIA
Jaki
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Tuesday 29 June 04 17:07 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer!

I am looking for the Parker family in the 1841/1851 Lanarkshire Census.
Barony, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.

Archibald Parker
Wife Agnes (nee Andrew) Parker
Children Jean (b. 1832) and Archibald Jr. (born 1834).  An older daughter Agnes died in 1838.

Archibald and Agnes were probably born around 1810 in Barony as they married in November 1828.

These names come from a bible in our family.  I am at an impasse in finding the next generation to link with my Yuill/Kennedy g-g grandparents as the surnames Andrew and Parker are not in my recent tree.  I am guessing a maternal line though the Kennedy family rather than the Yuills.  I am hoping the Census will help me with the ages and place of birth of the parents.

Thanks a bunch- Nutkin
Title: Aberdeen Lookup for twink
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 01 July 04 17:20 BST (UK)
Hi Twink


Sorry it took so long found your  Webster but couldnt find your Elrick
i will try again next week to see if i missed them


Film  0103925    Aberdeen  City  168A   20-51  Book 40 Page19    Census 1871



William Webster    head    MArried    28    Baker    Aberdeen
Caroline  Webster  Wife    MArried    32    baker England
?   Webster          D                             2            Aberdeen
Mitilda  Webster  D                             7 hours   Aberdeen



Sorry couldnt make out the first name of oldest child



Angela :)
Title: for Jaki
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 01 July 04 17:42 BST (UK)
Hi Jaki

the Fife Lds Center doesnt have records for Inverness im afraid
So wasnt able to look this up for you



Sorry


Angela :(
Title: For Nutkin
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 01 July 04 17:46 BST (UK)
Hiya

Sorry i had alot of bother with the 1841-1851 census for you lookup  for somereason all the films were numbered wrong and we didnt know which one was witch as soon as i am able to i will check again for you



Angela :(
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: twink on Thursday 01 July 04 20:08 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer.

Many thanks for the WEBSTER 1871 census info.  The eldest daughter is Louisa.  Great that Matilda is on there.  Was the Scottish census for 1871 taken on 2nd April like England?


If you do get a chance (I know you've had a lot of requests) could you possibly look on 1861 census for William Webster?  He married in 1864 so I am hoping he will be with his family.  His father was called James and his mother Elizabeth (I think!)

Elrick

between 1865 and 1869 I know that the ELRICKS i'm looking for where living at 35 Jack's Brae Aberdeen.
between1861 - 1863 they were at 1 Upper Leadride (?) Gilermaton (?), Aberdeen and before that 14 or 16 Jack's Brae and Gerrard Street.
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 01 July 04 20:56 BST (UK)
Hi Twink

I just Reliased i forgot to add what street they were in

They were at 48 Shiprow St Nicholas South Aberdeen


Sorry again



Angela :)
Title: From Jaki
Post by: Jaki on Friday 02 July 04 00:44 BST (UK)
Hi Angela

Thanks for letting me know

Jaki
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Friday 02 July 04 13:34 BST (UK)
Fifer,
Thank you for letting me know.  I can wait patiently.  I understand that Glasgow is a rather lsrge area and there are probably tons of Cochranes and Parkers living there.

-Nutkin
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Jo3 on Tuesday 06 July 04 19:56 BST (UK)
Hi
Thank you for your look-up offer.  I know it takes a lot of time, as I do a little myself but I find it very rewarding.  have had a problem for some time now as my ancestor appears to have been born in Fifeshire about 1729 according to his obituary in the local paper.  His name was John Pitblade or Pitbladdy or Pladdy (Pronunciation has produced many variations and he was a gardener at Millom Castle - his first child in Cumberland was down as Andrew Peart Bloddy!)  This child was baptised 27 December 1861 in Millom, to John and Jane, but Jane was also known as Jenny Pladdy - again quoted from her obituary, though her age wasn't given.  The nearest to age in the IGI baptisms for a John Pitblade is 1725 and I know that some are not on the IGI and that the ages do not always tally.  If you have time could you check any BT's for this.   Thank you
Jo3
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Sunday 11 July 04 22:46 BST (UK)
Hi everyone


Just to let everyone know i will be away for 2 weeks from next Wednesday the 19th so wont be able to do lookups in that time but please feel free to still post and i will start looking again the first week in Aug.




Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: essexbird2004 on Monday 12 July 04 10:31 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Thanx for your Kind offers of look ups, I was wondering is it possible for you to look up a death record for me please.

i have found the info on scotlandspeople.gov but there is no image and i was wondering if that would be the case if you went in person to look it up.

here is the info from scotlandspeople

Year=1916
Name=CLARK JOHN
Sex= M
Age= 29
District=SERVICE AND WAR RETURNS
County=MINOR RECORDS
GROs data=130/AF 0129

many thanx again Fifer

Regards
Kath xx
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: roma on Tuesday 13 July 04 08:11 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Next time you are at the LDS if you have time could you please look up 1861 Census for Townhill, Dunfermline for
Lewis MORGAN age 32 Coal Miner b England or maybe Wales.
Wife Margaret age 32 b Carnock
Son Lewis age 1 b Dunfermline

Thank you
Roma
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: ~meg on Thursday 15 July 04 22:26 BST (UK)
Fifer, When you can, I would like to request a lookup in the Fife Old Parish Records, for the birth of a William Chalmers in May 1836.  He was married in Forgan Parish, but he was entered as a Paper Mill Worker, Markinch.  His mother listed as Euphemia Chalmers, Father Thomas Watt.
If you can find any info on his birth, it would be very much appreciated.  With thanks meg
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Monday 26 July 04 08:55 BST (UK)
To All who requested lookups i will check tommorow at the lds if i can get in otherwise it will be thursday





Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 27 July 04 10:16 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone


Just to let all you are waiting on replys to there lookups i have just found out the LDS is closed this week so wont be able to check untill next week.



Sorry


Angela :(
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 05 August 04 20:25 BST (UK)
Hi Meh


Couldnt Find the Bith if William Chalmers if he was Illigitimate you will have to get the Kirk Records for his birth i think


But i did find him and his mother on both the 1841 and 51 census let me know if you dont have these and i will post the details for you.




Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: ~meg on Friday 06 August 04 02:23 BST (UK)
Angela, Thank you so much for your reply.  I do not have the census details, and would very much appreciate the info.  Thanks again for your kind offer, and I'll look forward to hearing further at your convenience.
~meg
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Friday 06 August 04 12:25 BST (UK)
Hi Meh

here is the info from the census

Markinch 1841    Couldnt make out the address


Isabella Chalmers   40   ? Papermill   Yes
Euphimia Chalmers 30                        No
Thomas Fraser       5                            Yes
Willliam Watt           5                          Yes


1851   Markinch
No 45 Couldnt see address
Isabella Chalmers   Head   U    48    Paper Folder    Mid  Pennicuik
Euphimia  Chalmers  Sis    U     42    Flaxyarn  Mid   Cl?
William Watt            Nep          15     Carter            MArkinch
Thomas Fraser         Nep           15      Flax Dresser  MArkinch




i forgot to mark down the Film and Page no and such let me know if you would like these and i will check again when i go next week.

Couldnt make out Place of Euphimia ,Birth other than it was Midlothian but it started with a Cl i m sure but it could be Currie wich is 6 miles from Edinburgh





Hope this helps


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: ~meg on Friday 06 August 04 17:51 BST (UK)
Angela,
It helps immensely - thank you!  I would appreciate film and page numbers, but there is no rush for that.  What you have provided already is more than I could have hoped for.  Thanks so much!
~meg
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Kewtonia on Friday 20 August 04 04:06 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,
 Do the Scottish Birth Marriage and Death indexes at the LDS Centre have a search facility the way they do on Scotlandspeople?

IF they do & you have the time I'd appreciate any references to the surname Kreglin.
I have already got the years that you can search online, so I have the deaths of Elise 1924, Katherina 1935, Clara 1943, Ernest Charles Christopher 1953. 
I also have the marriage of Olive Tina Rubin Kreglin to Donald Orr in 1928.
The information I have so far has been registered in either Greenock or Glasgow.

So it's basically any marriages after 1928  or births after 1903.
(The son's might have had children, tho I haven't found marriages for them)

The family were still in London til at least 1914 so I already have the census info.

Is what I'm requesting possible? I certainly don't want, or expect something that will take up hours of your time.

Regards
Chris
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Friday 20 August 04 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

the index;s are just an index i wouldnt be able to do lookups for the bride or groom depending on if it was a male or female for example as i would need the name .

as the index's will be upto 1955 it would take to long to search ias im waiting on films comming in at the moment to search through i would not have the time at the moment .But if you are willing to wait it may be a few months i would be able to maybe search through a couple at a time and give you the results.




Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Kewtonia on Friday 20 August 04 18:27 BST (UK)
Thanks Fifer,
I'm more than happy to wait, IF you have the time/inclination to search.
Both the Kreglin boys were much older than their sister, (Ernest Gordon born 1888, Herbert Charles 1898) so I very much doubt that there would be a marriage to find.
So it would be just births from the Orr - Kreglin marriage so after 1928, providing of course the index lists the mother's maiden name.

I fully understand if it's too difficult/time consuming to do.

Thanks
Chris  :)

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 25 August 04 20:18 BST (UK)
Hi Chris


i have had a look at the years from 1928-1936 for ORR births but havent came across any orrs that had the right mother but ill check later years next week .


Sorry



Angela  :(
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: capricorn on Friday 10 September 04 18:09 BST (UK)
Hello Fifer,
                  I wondered if you could please look up 1841 census for Lanarkshire,  I guess it would be Glasgow.
I'm looking for an Elizabeth McDougall (widow) with three children.  Duncan born 1836, Elizabeth born 1838 and Archibald born 1840.  Any help greatly appreciated.
Regards
Liz
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: minime on Saturday 11 September 04 03:01 BST (UK)
Fifer,
 I don't want to be a burden, but if you get the chance..can you check on the details of my gggrandfather's birth in Scotland. I don't know if it's even the right area, but he was born March 17, 1856 in Clyde Glasgow Scotland. If you could do that it would be much appreciated. If not..I still appreciate the offer. Thanks so much!! :)

Minime
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Saturday 11 September 04 09:26 BST (UK)
Posted by: capricorn  Posted on: Yesterday at 06:09:12pm 
Insert Quote 
Hello Fifer,
                  I wondered if you could please look up 1841 census for Lanarkshire,  I guess it would be Glasgow.
I'm looking for an Elizabeth McDougall (widow) with three children.  Duncan born 1836, Elizabeth born 1838 and Archibald born 1840.  Any help greatly appreciated.
Regards
Liz 


Hi Liz

I will be going back on tuesday will check then but it may take a few goes to find anything because glasgow is a big area.



Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Saturday 11 September 04 09:28 BST (UK)
Posted by: minime  Posted on: Today at 03:01:27am 
Insert Quote 
Fifer,
I don't want to be a burden, but if you get the chance..can you check on the details of my gggrandfather's birth in Scotland. I don't know if it's even the right area, but he was born March 17, 1856 in Clyde Glasgow Scotland. If you could do that it would be much appreciated. If not..I still appreciate the offer. Thanks so much!!

Minime 



Hi Minime

I will look at the indexs for you on Tuesday.but you will need to let me know his name as it will be impossible without it.

 ;) Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: capricorn on Saturday 11 September 04 11:02 BST (UK)
Hi Angela, Thank you for replying, I'm not sure if I can narrow it down for you a bit.  Elizabeth McDougall's youngest son Archibald was born  Oct 1840 in Old Wynd, Trongate, Glasgow.  Possibly the family could still be there.  If not please don't  trail through miles of micro film for Glasgow, I thought the FHS might have had a names index for 1841.
Thanks again for any help.
Liz
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: minime on Saturday 11 September 04 18:35 BST (UK)
Oh duh..just showed the true nature of being a blonde there Fifer. So sorry. :-[
 His name was Thomas Francis Birchall and his parents were Thomas N. Birchall and Frances Cooper.
 Again, thank you.
Minime
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Wednesday 15 September 04 18:08 BST (UK)
Fifer,

Could you do a look up in the BMD Indexes for me?

Agnes Bryden Young.  She was born 1783 (+or- 1 yr) in Mauchline Ayrshire.  I have her husband's death cerificate that says she died x months before her husband.  Andrew Young died on November 25, 1862.  He worked as a cow feeder and they lived on Wellmeadow Street  in High Church, Paisley, Renfrew and with their daughter's family: Michael Cochrane.  The  the death must be in 1862.   Her maiden name is also transcribed as Braidie or Brayden.

Question 2 is for the 1841 Census in Ayrshire:
Houshold of Michael Cochrane in Darvel, Loudon Parish, Ayrshire.  Michael was a farmer and born in 1775 in Avondale, Lanarkshire.  Wife was Agnes Mair born in Loudon in 1778.  I belive the farm's name is Dyke Farm.

Thanl you very much!- Kristin :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 22 September 04 21:11 BST (UK)
Hi everyone


Just to let you all know that im hoping to get into the LDS tommorow i have been busy with decorating the last week and never made it to the lds .I will get back to you all tommorow that have asked for a lookup.





Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 23 September 04 16:26 BST (UK)
Fifer,

Could you do a look up in the BMD Indexes for me?

Agnes Bryden Young.  She was born 1783 (+or- 1 yr) in Mauchline Ayrshire.  I have her husband's death cerificate that says she died x months before her husband.  Andrew Young died on November 25, 1862.  He worked as a cow feeder and they lived on Wellmeadow Street  in High Church, Paisley, Renfrew and with their daughter's family: Michael Cochrane.  The  the death must be in 1862.   Her maiden name is also transcribed as Braidie or Brayden.

Question 2 is for the 1841 Census in Ayrshire:
Houshold of Michael Cochrane in Darvel, Loudon Parish, Ayrshire.  Michael was a farmer and born in 1775 in Avondale, Lanarkshire.  Wife was Agnes Mair born in Loudon in 1778.  I belive the farm's name is d**e Farm.

Thanl you very much!- Kristin




Hi Kristin

I had a look for the Death of Agnes but couldnt find her im afraid i will keep looking for her when i go for you.


The census you asked for :

i came across the following but not sure if its right if it is he may have remarried.



Film 0101819 598-603  Loudon   `1841  Census


Darvell  Loudon PArish
Address is just listed as Darvell
Michael Cochrane   age 65   Cotton?(couldnt make out the rest)  Not Born in area
Isobel Cochrane    age 55      Not born in parish


let me know if this isnt him and i will look again



Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 23 September 04 16:28 BST (UK)
Hi Angela, Thank you for replying, I'm not sure if I can narrow it down for you a bit.  Elizabeth McDougall's youngest son Archibald was born  Oct 1840 in Old Wynd, Trongate, Glasgow.  Possibly the family could still be there.  If not please don't  trail through miles of micro film for Glasgow, I thought the FHS might have had a names index for 1841.
Thanks again for any help.
Liz #




Hi Liz

Sorry i wasnt able to find Elizabeth but there was other mcdougall's in there let me know if you would like them and i will check again next week


Sorry Again


Angela :(
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 23 September 04 16:32 BST (UK)
Oh duh..just showed the true nature of being a blonde there Fifer. So sorry.
 His name was Thomas Francis Birchall and his parents were Thomas N. Birchall and Frances Cooper.
 Again, thank you.
Minime



Hi Minime

this is what i came across but i dont know if it will help much because you already have the date but atleast it will confirm the area for you.



Thomas Birchall   : Clyde Glasgow      335      1856






Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Thursday 23 September 04 16:53 BST (UK)
Angela,

That looks to be my Michael Cochrane.  He was born at the right time.  Born in Avondale, Lanarkshire.  he must have remarried.

If you see anything else when you look again it would be greatly appreciated.

Kristin ;D
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: capricorn on Thursday 23 September 04 21:45 BST (UK)
Thank you Angela,  This lady and her family are proving very difficult to find, in fact impossible. I have the 1851 and 1861  census index for Glasgow and they are nowhere to be found in either of them.
Archibald was born Glasgow 1840 and married in Glasgow 1862, so where on earth has he disappeared to?
     If you don't mind Angela, yes I would like to see those other McDougalls  The other two children that I know of were Duncan born 1836 and Elizabeth born 1838.
Thanks again for your help and your time
Liz
   
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: minime on Thursday 23 September 04 21:59 BST (UK)
Thank you Angela. Now I know for sure and can get a copy to see what else I can find. You're the best.  ;D
Minime
Title: Please read kazza Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 05 October 04 11:14 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
Just to let you all know for the next 2 months i will not be able to do lookups on this subject as i am transcribing 2 films i have in at the LDS so im asking Kazza to locked the subject for a while.i will let you all know when i can resume looking these up.





Please lock this for me Kazza



Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 26 October 04 20:06 BST (UK)
Hi everyone


I can start doing lookups again for a while  i still go on a Tuesday and Thursday will be going on thursday this week if anyone wants something looked up if i have to change this day i will inform you on thursday morning.




Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: twink on Sunday 31 October 04 14:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer

Is there any chance you could look up the ELRICK family for me on the census returns.  1861 and 1871 if possible.  Do they have earlier?

They were in Aberdeen (see previous postings by me).

Henry elrick was born c1834/5 (although i've had no luck on line finding his birth through scotlandspeople). 
His parents were John ELRICK and May COUTTS (she died in 1857 age 64).
He married in 1856 to Isabella COPLAND.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 03 November 04 14:04 GMT (UK)
Hi twink


Did i not get back to you about your lookup im so sorry ive had major problems with pc lately and have only just managed to get back to the lds this week so ill check your info when i go next tuesday.

I cant go tommorow im afraid as a family freind died and its his funeral tommorow but i wil llet you know on tuesday after 5pm how i got on


I think they have the census's from 1841-1891 but i coudnt say for deffinate as its not a place ive searched alot off .
 
Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: arabella on Wednesday 03 November 04 14:42 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure if you will be able to help, but keeping my fingers crossed....in 1853 an ancestor from Yorkshire died in Helensburgh.....Maria Dunlop (nee Simpson) no idea why she was there - but have been unable to find her husband Robert Dunlop in any of the English census after that.

As she was born 1816 I would think he would have been about the same age....and he was a plasterer.  Would there be any indexes for the 1861 and 1871 census in and around that area that you could have a peek at please? They had one son that I know of - Thomas Simpson Dunlop born in Yorkshire in 1840...again have nothing on him - so possibly with his father.

Any help appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 03 November 04 14:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Arabella


Il see what i can do for you.




Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: jackie walker on Thursday 04 November 04 10:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer

Could you please look at b m d to see if you could find my g g grandmother, all I know is that she was born in Glasgow in approx 1862 her name was Margaret McAlpin, don't know her fathers name but mother's was same.  I think she went back to Scotland after g grandfather died in 1899 and married again as when she died in Stockport her name was then Jones, but can not find her on England 1901 census, so presume she may have gone back to Scotland.

Any help appreciated.

Thank you

Jackie
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Saturday 06 November 04 16:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Jackie



ill do my best but it may be thursday or into the following  week before i can do this lookup because ive got alot to search on tuesday already.




Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: troods on Tuesday 09 November 04 03:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer

If you have any spare time could you please lookup for my Scottish ancestors thanks. I am new to tracing my family in Scotland.
I have

William McIntosh died 1861 Nairn
Isabella McIntosh died 1855 Nairn

they had the following children
Angus b 1824
James b 1826
Isabella b 1830
William b 1832
Alexander b 1837
Donald b 1842

Many thanks
Troods
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 09 November 04 18:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Twink

Here is info from the 1861 census




Old Macher Aberdeen   168B 1-30


421   I  U  Leaddide (couldnt make out this address properly)
2 Widows


Henry Elrick   Head Mar    26   Comb Maker    Aberdeen
Isabella         Wife  Mar     26                            Aberdeen
Barbara          Dau             4                             Aberdeen
Robert          Son                3m                          Aberdeen
Jane Mcarther   Boarder      2 or 21                   Aberdeen




Also came accross the following in the 1841 census not Henry Im Afraid but i thought they would be connected.



Film 168B 1-30 Book 3   page 9   1841 census
Parish of Old Macher Aberdeen

Kingstreet Road

Alex Elrick  35   Carter Brickworth  Y
Anne          30                               y
Jane           2                                 y
Ann            2 months                      Y


Page 17 same film as above

traton Road (not sure about address hard to make out)
Joseph  Elrick  70   taylor    Y
janet               40              Y
Anne               30               Y







1861 Census   Film  168B  1-32    0103778 Aberdeenshire


21 Charles Street       

James Elrick   Head    Mar   25    Tobacco Pipe Cleaner    St Nicholas
Christina        Wife              27                                         Rosshire Tain




Also came accross following on OPR   


John Elrick/Marjory   Coutts   m 21 Oct  1820   Old Machar



John Elrick son of above  C  19 Sep  1827   Old Machnar




Couldnt find Birth of henry 


Will check  other census on thursday  for you. they were very big films so takes a good couple of hours to go through them.





Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 09 November 04 18:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Arabella


they dont have any info for that area im afraid so couldnt help with this one sorry again.




Fifer
 :-\

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 09 November 04 18:51 GMT (UK)
Sorry troods


Didnt have time to start looking on yours today will try and search on thursday or next tuesday when i go again. was all the kids born nairn do you know.





Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 09 November 04 18:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Jackie


had a look for  MArgaret Mcalpine  only found the following


MArgaret Mcalpine  B 1 MAr 1862   High Church Paisley Renfrew

Parents William Mcalpine/MArgaret Burns   



If you think this could be them let me know as i have other kids for them.





Fifer
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: twink on Tuesday 09 November 04 19:06 GMT (UK)
Many thanks fifer, I appreciate all the effort and time this takes.

I know the following about henrys parents:

John ELRICK was a cotton weaver and he died prior to 1856. His wife May ELRICK Nee COUTTS (Marjory possibly - i'm waiting for the marriage certificate which you mentioned above) died on 24/9/1857 aged 64 at 17 Jacks brae, Old Machar.




Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 09 November 04 20:46 GMT (UK)
Hello. This is a very kind offer. If possible and not too much trouble, could you please look up the following:

William Youngson married Elizabeth Doig 25/2/1833 in Parish of Dundee

Batch No M112825
Dates 1820-1854
Source Call No: 0993404
Film
Printout Call: 6902959


Ages of William & Elizabeth would be appreciated (hopeful that it will tie in with a William Youngson born 21/9/1809 and possibly Elizabeth Doig born 7/6/1812). Looking also  for any possible info on parents names or indeed anything else that may be recorded, to help me tie in with my own findings.

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

 :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: jackie walker on Tuesday 09 November 04 23:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer

Thank you so much for taking the time to check for me, I don't know if it is my Margaret McAlpin but I am certainly keeping a note of details just in case, her mother was called Margaret McAlpin, never thought of checking for any more McAlpin's in Stockport so if you have the name I would appreciate if you could let me know them.

Again thank you

Jackie
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: troods on Tuesday 09 November 04 23:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer

Thanks for the reply and the answer is yes all the kids were born in Nairn
I also know that  Isabella McIntosh born 1830 came to Australia in 1854 and settled here.
I don't know what happened to the rest of the family.

Regards
Troods
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 16 November 04 11:01 GMT (UK)
Re same family as above: 

William Youngson married Elizabeth Doig 25/2/1833 in Parish  of Dundee

Just realised you said you may have access to 1841 and 1851 Census returns.

Trying to tie down William and Elizabeth Youngson with their children Isobel, David, and John (John would probably only be in 1851 census)  Sorry, don't have a district within Dundee.

 Anything you may find would be welcome, and very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance  :).  
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 16 November 04 11:48 GMT (UK)
Really, really sorry to ask for another lookup but having problems tying this one down as my Ann Flinn and her parents don't seem to have been born in Dundee although Ann did marry there (to David Youngson in 1861).

Here goes,
2nd June 1854 an Owen Flinn married a Mary Farril

details of IGI are Batch No.: M112825 Dates:  1820 - 1854   Source Call No.: 0993404   Type:  Printout Call No.:  Type:  Film  6902959   
 

I am trying to trace info on an Ann Flinn daughter of Owen Flinn and Catherine Fitzsimmons and am hopeful that this Owen Flinn marriage may be her brother (or, possibly, a re-marriage of her father) as she herself named one of her own son's Owen Flinn Youngson.

As before, anything you may find would be most welcome, in particular, if Owen's parents are a match for Ann's, then their marriage date/place would be a huge help to me.
 
I suppose if Ann's parents also lived in Dundee, she may be with them on an 1851 Census, although obviously I don't know exact area.

Huge thanks, in advance, yet again for any help you can give....it really, really is so much appreciated.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: dubbleu_b on Tuesday 16 November 04 22:09 GMT (UK)
I am looking for my 5th gr-grandfather JAMES REID and I am wondering if you might be able to locate a death record or if you have access to the 1851 or 1861 census that may help me locate a death record.  I have found his wife’s death record in 1863 in Bridgeton, Glasgow, and she was a widow at the time, but I’ve been unable to locate info on him.

I believe he was born Apr 1777 in Renfrew, Renfrew, Scotland.  He married CRAWFORD WARNOCK 26 Dec 1802 in Renfrew, Renfrew, Scotland, daughter of THOMAS WARNOCK and AGNES MCMOULTRY.  She was born Abt. Jul 1779 in Greencock, Renfrew, Scotland
   
Children of JAMES REID and CRAWFORD WARNOCK are:
   i.   JAMES  REID, b. 28 Apr 1803.
   ii.   THOMAS REID, b. 23 Jan 1805, Renfrew, Scotland.
   iii.   AGNES REID, b. 21 Jan 1807, Renfrew, Scotland.
   iv.   MARY REID, b. 20 Feb 1810, Renfrew, Scotland; d. 11 Mar 1892, Glasgow, Scotland; m. JOHN SPENCER, 04 Jun 1830, Parish Church of Eastwood, Renfrew, Scotland   
   v.   MARGARET REID, b. 15 Aug 1813, Renfrew, Scotland.
   vi.   JOHN REID, b. 21 Oct 1815, Renfrew, Renfrew, Scotland.
   vii.   JANET REID, b. 16 Jun 1818, Renfrew, Scotland.
   viii.   WILLIAM REID, b. 09 Nov 1821.


Anything found would be sincerely appreciated.
Thanks
Wendy
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 17 November 04 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone


Just to let you all know i havent forgotten about any of your requests ive just been laden down with alot of them.i will get back to you all as soon as i find anything.



Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 17 November 04 16:07 GMT (UK)
No problem...your offer was very generous and I am sure no one minds waiting....take your time and don't feel you are being pressured, if you can't manage to do it then don't worry, just say.......you are lucky to have a centre nearby and those of us who don't really do appreciate someone offering look-ups at them but please, not if it hinders your own personal researching.

I for one am more than happy to wait.  :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Thursday 18 November 04 02:47 GMT (UK)
Fifer, I am so sorry as I know you are busy but I just received a death record today that gave me some more leads that i am dying to trace...

I am looking for the birth of a Jessie Kennedy.  Her death record in the US says she was born on May 16, 1872 in Glasgow, Scotland.  Her parents were  WIlliam Kennedy and Annie Jamerson (it is hard to read so name could be Jaimeson).  I would like to confirm this.

THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOO much.!  I have Jessie's portrait on my dining room wall and know next to nothing about this woman.  - Kristin
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 18 November 04 08:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Kristen


Its no problem.
You may just have to wait a few weeks for this one as i have about 10 others to lookup and i wont be able to go today as im going down to the mother inlaws tommorow and still havent got anything sorted yet .but as long as your willing to wait i will find out for you.


Spending to much time on here cant get anything else done but i think im not the only one :-\    we are all addicted to this site now.



Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Thursday 18 November 04 13:26 GMT (UK)
Angela,

No problem.  I am patient.  I can look at Jessie's picture on my wall as I wait patiently.  I waited 4 years to find her death record.  I can wait a few more weeks for a confirmation of her birth.  Your help is so welcome.  I just paid for Scotland's people last night and could not find her definitively.  Oh well.  Glasgow is just too large of a place.- Thank you again- Kristin
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: ~meg on Sunday 21 November 04 18:50 GMT (UK)
Fifer,
When you have the time, I would appreciate a lookup in the 1851 Lanarkshire Census for the following family in Glasgow:

1851 Lanarkshire, Glasgow:
Hughes, James, 29, b. Fettercairn, Kincardineshire
             Barbara, 24, b. Fetteresso,       “
             Amelia, 2, b. Navan, Ireland
             James A., infant, b. Glasgow

Thank you very much, Angela, for your generous offer of lookups.  I know you are swamped with requests, and will be happy to hear from you whenever you get the opportunity.

~meg



Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: sherylbadger on Saturday 04 December 04 01:28 GMT (UK)
Could you please check the following from Fife

either BMD and or relevant census

Jane Meldrum born 16 Oct 1861 Scoonie Fife  married Hecotr Millar in 1881 Leven

Also death information for a Robert Meldrum born nov 1830 Leuchars fife.

Is more names but that will do for now.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Saturday 04 December 04 17:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone




Just to say to everyone asking for glasgow lookups i have checked this week and havent come accross any so far :-\  If i havent replyed to any of you yet its because im having bother finding your people.

As glasgow is a very big area there are about 5 films for there it takes alot to go through the films if anyone has any other info they can give me to narrow down the search for them.It would help if you know a street they may be at or previously at or a parish if you can  shed some light on this please send me a personal message i will see the message alot quicker will be back on tuesday again.




Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: arabella on Thursday 09 December 04 15:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Arabella


they dont have any info for that area im afraid so couldnt help with this one sorry again.




Fifer

Thanks for looking - sorry to have been a so long sending my thanks - got side tracked(!!!)  and then been away.
Arabella
 :-\


Title: For SherylRe: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 14 December 04 18:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Sheryl


here is the two Certificates




1861  Birth   Scoonie Fife

Jane Meldrum   1861   Oct 16    11h  55 m pm

Durie Homefarm
Parents Robert Meldrum  and Jane Bird
Married 1854  June 4th  kennoway  Fife
Reg by Roberty Meldrum  Father   (Present)
Reg on 1861 Oct  22nd  at Leven  by Andrew Smyth  Registrar


--------

1881  28 Oct   P Manse leven   (couldnt make ihs out very well)
after banns According to the banns  of the united? union Church

Hector  Millar   (Coachman  ) Domestic Servant  BAtchelor
age 24    Durie House  Scoonie
Parents Andrew Millar   LAb   at  ? stores and MArgret Millar Ms Laing

Jane Meldrum  21  Durie Farm
Parents Robert Meldrum  Ploughman and Jane Meldrum ms Birrell
Wittness   James Meldrum  ,Isabella Watson




Also came accross Robert in 1891 census
film 456 006  1    Scoonie Fife  1891

5 Durie Cotier Houses ? Scoonie

Robert Meldrum   H  Wid  63   Farmservant   Collesie
Margaret              D  Un   23  ? Dairymaid   Scoonie





Couldnt check the 1901 will have to do that at the library if you would like me to. Untill i can check the 1901 census its a bit of guess work for roberts death im afraid but will check 1901 as soon as i can sorry this has taken so long.




Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: sherylbadger on Wednesday 15 December 04 02:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the information it is nice to get information that you don't already have.  I was interested to find out that on her birth cert her mothers name was Jane Bird but the marriage cert is Jane Birrell.

The 1901 census might shed some light on the Meldrum family and give me an approx 10 year span to work on for the death.

Other Meldrum names in the same family were
James born 1859, Mary 1864, Margaret born 1867 and of course the Jane that you looked up born 1861 who married Hector.

Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: sherylbadger on Wednesday 15 December 04 06:13 GMT (UK)
Could someone please lookup a Robert Meldrum born 2 Nov 1830 Leuchars? or Collessie, Fife, Scotland looking to find out his parents.  I think his mother is Jean Scott

Thanks

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 06 January 05 10:12 GMT (UK)
To Everyone looking for the glasgow lookups



Bad news everyone i still havent come across anything yet the only thing i can do is keep a note of them all and if i come across them while searching the Glasgow films for anyone else i will let you know.it like looknig for a needle in the haystack  with the glasgow films as there is that many.


Sorry


Fifer :(
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: ~meg on Friday 07 January 05 17:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Angela,
I'm one of your Glasgow look-up requesters and would like to thank you for your post.  Please do not give another moment's thought to my request.  Don't expect you to go searching after that needle, that's for sure!

No apologies necessary!
Cheers,
~meg
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Friday 07 January 05 18:02 GMT (UK)
Angela,

I also don't want you going cross-eyed trying to find my Glasgow ancestors.  Please give your self a break!! And consider my Glasgow requests closed.
Thank you for all you have done!!
-Kristin
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: twink on Friday 07 January 05 18:10 GMT (UK)
Hi

Is it possible to have any pre 1881 census for the following:

William NESS born 1848 Wemyss, Fife.

He was the son of Andrew and Isabella/Isobel.

He married in Feb 1871 to Janet Campbell.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Sunday 16 January 05 12:47 GMT (UK)
Hiya twink

Do you know for deffinate that they are in wemyss before 1881 or could they be somewhere else.




Fifer :)

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: twink on Sunday 16 January 05 13:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer

In 1881 William Ness and wife Janet were in New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton.  They married in 1871 In Anderston, Glasgow.

In 1881 Andrew Ness and wife Isabella were in Markinch, Fife.  They married in 1844 in Cameron.


I think Andrews parents were Walter Ness and Jean Chalmers who married in 1806 Wemyss.  I think Walter died in 1856 in East Wemyss and Jean died in 1867 in West Wemyss. 

I've been told that Walters parents are Walter Ness and Catherine Beveridge who married in 1784 Wemyss.  From the IGI i found two children called Walter - one born 1786 and one born 1791.  The walter that died in 1856 says his age was 78 (1778) and parents Walter Ness and Catherine Chalmers.....

It gets to be a bit of a muddle.  This is my friends family tree and I just wanted to try and comfirm abit more for her. 


Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Sunday 16 January 05 13:15 GMT (UK)
Hi twink

I was posting a message back to you at the same time you must have posted the last one lol so im having to write it again.


If you go to the following site he has transcribed all of the wemyss for 1851 i did notice about 20 different ness familys on there im sure your walter was on them coudnt see andrew though but i may have just missed them.
Im also looking for ancestors from weymss name of Hughes and Dryburgh,

here is the website


http://members.aol.com/drewhss/drew.htm

go to fife onsite databes on there and you will see a list of places they have.
hope this helps if not let me know and ill check the lds for you .




Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Lucky Leo 1966 on Saturday 05 March 05 02:19 GMT (UK)
Could you possibly look up my Great Grandfather Thomas Herd, I believe he was in Auchterderran in 1891.

I would like to find out the names of the people living with him, I believe he was born around 1866-1868.

I would also like to know any info on my Grandad, the only thing he was not born until 1912, but he was one of the youngest of at least 9. His father being Thomas mentioned earlier.

Thank you Ian Dawe.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 08 March 05 17:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Ian


There was two Thomas Herds in 1891

here is detials of both for you



405   001    12   Auchterderran

Westfield
JAMES HERD    H     M     28     coalminer     Auchterderran
ISABELLA       W     M     25                          beath
AGNES            D             5      Schollar         "
ELIZABETH     D             4                             "
ISABELLA       D              2                            BEATH
JANET             D             8 MONTHS                  "
THOMAS         BRO         22                           AUCHTERDERRAN
WILLIAM        BRO           19                          AUCHTERDERRAN





405    002    21      AUCHTERDERRAN

73   KEIRS BRAE   ?

DAVID HERD     H   53    COALMINER      AUCHTERDERRAN
MARGARET m    W  48                            MARKINCH
THOMAS            S  22        COALMINER                     AUCHTERDERRAN
JANET                D  20    gEN SERVANT      aUCHTERDERRAN
ALISON             D   13     SCH                     AUCHTERDERRAN
DAVID               S  11     SCH                     AUCHTERDERRAN
EUPHIMIA          D   7      SCH                   AUCHTERDERRAN
ROBERT CLARK  NEP  19   COAL MINER      AUCHTERDERRAN



If i can be of more help let me know i didnt have time to search for your other request sorry.



Fifer :)               
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: diddyaddy on Monday 21 March 05 01:01 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any information on the death/burial of my great grandmother Mary Ann Dale (born March 1853). She married Elfred William Stevenson in 1885 in Bury, Lancashire, and then supposedly died soon after my grandmother, Ellen Dale Stevenson, was born in October 1887 in Holcombe, Lancashire.  I am wondering if she died in Glasgow. since Elfred (who apparently went by William) was remarried in East Greenock, Renfrew in 1892.  He then died in Kirkcaldy around 1815.   Mary Ann was born in Ramsbottom, Lancashire and we had thought that maybe she died there too, but I can't find any record of it in any database.  Can you help me?
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Monday 21 March 05 13:34 GMT (UK)
Hiya diddyaddy
I will check in the index for you not sure exactly when im going back this week if i can get in tommorow i will check for you then and let you know tommorow night.



Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scotmum on Monday 21 March 05 14:23 GMT (UK)
Hello Fifer

Just noticed you were kindly doing look-ups again. I had posted a couple a while back (think they are on page 7). Just wondered if you had ever had chance to check them?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Monday 21 March 05 14:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Scotsmum
Sorry its taken so long about this i havent been able to get to the LDS alot the last month as been finishing the house.I will going back tommorow i hope if i can get in i only go once a week for the moment so thats why it may take me a while to get back to people.

For everyone else that has asked for a lookup and i havent replyed to you just send me a private email or tell me what page your posting was on and i will get back to you as soon as i can.



Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: diddyaddy on Monday 21 March 05 22:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks.  Anything you can do will be appreciated.  I have family in Scotland and England, but they aren't interested in genealogy so I appreciate you taking the time.  I was in Kirkcaldy a few years ago and went to the library, but didn't really find anything on any of my lines and wasn't sure what or how to find anything.  Next trip over I'll try the LDS centers.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 22 March 05 15:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone

Just to let you know i couldnt get in today but booked in for thursday so i will check for you then.



Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Friday 25 March 05 13:03 GMT (UK)
Hi All

For diddyaddy and scotsmum

Bad news im afraid i had a hunt for yours diddy but couldnt find anything im afraid.

And Scots Mum dundee is to big im afraid to look through without knowing an area .it would takes ages to look through all the films.
if you get other info that has an address on that would be a help.
I will look again for you.



Fifer :(
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: diddyaddy on Sunday 27 March 05 02:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for trying. I need to contact one of my aunts and see if she has any thoughts about where and/or when to look.  It was her grandmother so hopefully she might remember something.  Thanks again. 
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: snowwhite77 on Wednesday 06 April 05 14:25 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,

Would you be so kind as to check for the following for me please
1841 census

Elizabeth (Betsy) Paterson b 1821 Carnock, Fife
Parents George Paterson & Ann Henderson

Much appreciated.

My nearest LDS centre is Alloa, and is closed Temp. Don't know how long for. Do you know how much information they have in there?

Regards
Amanda
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 06 April 05 14:39 BST (UK)
Hiya

Do you know if they are deffinatly in carnock in 1841.

If its Alloa you are asking about i havent a clue im afraid .
Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: snowwhite77 on Wednesday 06 April 05 14:54 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,

Elizabeth (Betsy) was born Carnock 1821 and also married there 1842 so i assume she was there the year before she married.

Really appreciate your help.
I am a bit disappointed my LDS centre is closed at the moment and can't find out when it is reopening (if at all)

Regards
Amanda
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 06 April 05 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda


I will have a look for you next week im not to sure yet if i will be going tommorow yet so it maybe next tuesday but will get back to you as soon as i can



Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: snowwhite77 on Wednesday 06 April 05 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,

Much appreciated, many thanks
Amanda
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: reenie on Monday 11 April 05 11:23 BST (UK)
Hello,

If it's not too much trouble, I wonder if you could look up the Scottish BDM Index 1855-1955 for the marriage of William Gray  to Sarah McClutchy and any children born to them before 1881.
Any help is much appreciated.
Reenie
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 12 April 05 12:39 BST (UK)
Hi Reenie
Could you let me know more details as there is alot of films between 1855-1881 and would take a while to try and search through them.
If you can try narrow the dates down for me.Do you have them on the 1881 census if so could you tell me were.


Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 12 April 05 17:22 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,




Would you be so kind as to check for the following for me please
1841 census

Elizabeth (Betsy) Paterson b 1821 Carnock, Fife
Parents George Paterson & Ann Henderson

Much appreciated.

My nearest LDS centre is Alloa, and is closed Temp. Don't know how long for. Do you know how much information they have in there?

Regards
Amanda


Hi Amanda

Found the following for you .Couldnt find elizabeth though.

1841   Carnock   Book 4    Carnock
Carneyhill 
George Paterson   53    ?      Yes
Ann                       45              Yes
MArgaret                8              yes
Ann                        11             Yes
John                        15   Ag Lab   Yes

Also came across two others will give you them just incase they are connected.

Cairney Hill North Side of Street   Book 5  Carnock
Robert PAterson   45     ? Weaver    Yes
Eliza                      45                        Yes
John                       12                        Yes


South Side of Street   Book 6 Carnock

George   Paterson     57     ? Cotton Weaver     No
MArgaret                    45                                    Yes
Thomas                       25                ?  Ship(shop) Yes
James                          14            ?                      Yes
William                        20                ?              Yes
John                            11                                  Yes
Margt                          15                                     Yes
Janet                          6                                    yes



Hope this helps

Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: snowwhite77 on Tuesday 12 April 05 19:35 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,

Thank you very much for the trouble you went to. Much appreciated.
 Regards

Amanda :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: reenie on Wednesday 13 April 05 04:10 BST (UK)
Hi Reenie
Could you let me know more details as there is alot of films between 1855-1881 and would take a while to try and search through them.
If you can try narrow the dates down for me.Do you have them on the 1881 census if so could you tell me were.


Angela



Hi Angela,

Great news!   Have found the marriage of William & Sarah.

Thanks for your help,

All the best,
Reenie

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: alastair_banks on Wednesday 13 April 05 08:09 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Would you mind looking up a few OPR christenings for Dunfermline, Fife, please?

They are some of the children of Peter BAIN and Mary HEARNE.

Margaret BAIN, b 19 Feb 1815, c 26 Feb 1815.
Nathanail BAIN, b 27 Jul 1817, c 17 Aug 1817.
Mary BAIN, b 20 Nov 1819, c 26 Dec 1819.

I'm interested in whether they give an occupation for Peter, as he was described as a soldier on his son's (Jeremiah) christening record in 1810.

Cheers

Alastair
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Friday 15 April 05 15:25 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,

If you have the time could you possibly look at this query (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50165.0.html) for me on the 1841 Census. It's most likely to be in the Calton area of Barony. If you have even more time than that could you possibly check the same family in the 1851 census.

Thanks
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Friday 15 April 05 16:43 BST (UK)
Hi Alistair,Robert

I will check for you both on tuesday and let you know if i find anything.



Reenie   Glad to here you found your people.



Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Friday 15 April 05 16:59 BST (UK)
Thanks Fifer, that is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 19 April 05 16:38 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Would you mind looking up a few OPR christenings for Dunfermline, Fife, please?

They are some of the children of Peter BAIN and Mary HEARNE.

Margaret BAIN, b 19 Feb 1815, c 26 Feb 1815.
Nathanail BAIN, b 27 Jul 1817, c 17 Aug 1817.
Mary BAIN, b 20 Nov 1819, c 26 Dec 1819.

I'm interested in whether they give an occupation for Peter, as he was described as a soldier on his son's (Jeremiah) christening record in 1810.

Cheers

Alastair

Hi Alistair
on all above baptisms Peter is listed as a Flax Dresser   ihave coppied the full transcriptions if you would like this info let me know.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 19 April 05 16:40 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,

If you have the time could you possibly look at this query (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50165.0.html) for me on the 1841 Census. It's most likely to be in the Calton area of Barony. If you have even more time than that could you possibly check the same family in the 1851 census.

Thanks
Hi Robert
I had a look for you but couldnt find them im afraid but there is over 20 books in all on the carlton film i didnt have time to check the 1851 if you want to wait i will have a look at that next week for you.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Tuesday 19 April 05 17:00 BST (UK)
Hi there Fifer,
Is It possible for you to do a 1851 Census lookup for me?

I'm searching for a James Hendry, DOB according to 1871 census 1825 in Ireland, whereabouts, not noted, so can't trace his Birth Cert for sure.

I Know he was in the Old Monkland, Coatbridge area in 1858, as I have his sons Birth Cert for then, on another sons Birth Cert it gives his Marriage to Susan Clark nee Pollock as 1852, Girvan or St Quivox, Ayr (the text is blurred), and on a Daughter's Birth Cert, it states her, as being Born in  Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.

So Fifer... if you could do a lookup for me in the Girvan, St Quivox, Kilmarnock areas of Ayrshire, I'd be very grateful.

Thx
Jim.Hendry.  :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 19 April 05 17:04 BST (UK)
Hi Jim

I will have a look as soon as i can it may take a few weeks for this one if i have to search diferent areas but will let you know as soon as i find something for you.




Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Tuesday 19 April 05 17:21 BST (UK)
Angela,

Thx for your prompt reply, and thx for taking the time to help me out, I'll look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards

Jim.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Izzy on Thursday 21 April 05 01:38 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer
I wonder if your still doing look ups if you could look for death of Donalld Watson all Iknow is he lived east cambell st glasgow with his daughter Jeanie Idont even know what name she used the date I dont know but could be late 1920s or early 1930 his wife Marion died Aberdeen no maiden name
when Ive tried to get this family on scotlandspeople I dont seem to get any matches on my mothers birth cert it says mother jeanie watson father henry Rossini but they never married jeanie and her siblings were brought up in Aberdeen
by parents donald and marion until about 1915 but Istill keep coming up with nothing would be grateful for any help thankyou in advance.         Izzy
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Thursday 21 April 05 10:20 BST (UK)
Hello;
       If you have the time, I would be very grateful if you could find a marriage for George Brunston Robertson. He was born in Cupar Fife. The marriage would be in the late 1850`s early 1860`s.
     Georges father Robert Robertson is listed as a jeweller [Cupar] Would there be any record of Him [1820`s onward] Thank you. Pam  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 21 April 05 12:36 BST (UK)
Hello;
       If you have the time, I would be very grateful if you could find a marriage for George Brunston Robertson. He was born in Cupar Fife. The marriage would be in the late 1850`s early 1860`s.
     Georges father Robert Robertson is listed as a jeweller [Cupar] Would there be any record of Him [1820`s onward] Thank you. Pam  ;D ;D

Hi Pam
I willcheck your details next week for you when i go i just wanted to let you know i have just reciently got the Scotlands Pigot Directory for 1825/6 and found the following for you
If you would full details let me know.send me your email address my private message

Watch and Clockmakers  for cupar 1825/26
Robertson Robert, Jewleller   crossgate

Will let you know as soon as i have the marriage for you.

Fifer
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Friday 22 April 05 11:03 BST (UK)
Hi Robert
I had a look for you but couldnt find them im afraid but there is over 20 books in all on the carlton film i didnt have time to check the 1851 if you want to wait i will have a look at that next week for you.


Angela :)

 :o 20 books. Thanks for having a look anyway. I didn't realise how deep it would be buried- I'll give that a body swerve too then. I appreciate the offer to look next week at the 1851 census but please only do this if you have some spare time and give other look ups the priority. I'm far from 100% sure they will be there and may have emigrated by that time so it would be a shame to waste your resources looking for something that probably isn't there.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 26 April 05 17:45 BST (UK)
Hello;
       If you have the time, I would be very grateful if you could find a marriage for George Brunston Robertson. He was born in Cupar Fife. The marriage would be in the late 1850`s early 1860`s.
     Georges father Robert Robertson is listed as a jeweller [Cupar] Would there be any record of Him [1820`s onward] Thank you. Pam  ;D ;D

Hiya sorry pam i didnt have any luck on finding a marriage im afraid but if you like i will check again next week.

Fifer :(
Hi Pam
I willcheck your details next week for you when i go i just wanted to let you know i have just reciently got the Scotlands Pigot Directory for 1825/6 and found the following for you
If you would full details let me know.send me your email address my private message

Watch and Clockmakers  for cupar 1825/26
Robertson Robert, Jewleller   crossgate

Will let you know as soon as i have the marriage for you.

Fifer
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 26 April 05 17:48 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer
I wonder if your still doing look ups if you could look for death of Donalld Watson all Iknow is he lived east cambell st glasgow with his daughter Jeanie Idont even know what name she used the date I dont know but could be late 1920s or early 1930 his wife Marion died Aberdeen no maiden name
when Ive tried to get this family on scotlandspeople I dont seem to get any matches on my mothers birth cert it says mother jeanie watson father henry Rossini but they never married jeanie and her siblings were brought up in Aberdeen
by parents donald and marion until about 1915 but Istill keep coming up with nothing would be grateful for any help thankyou in advance.         Izzy


Hi Izzy
I checked  upto 1936 for a death and couldnt find one im afraid i ran out of time beofre i can check laer years but will check again next week for you.

Fifer :(
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 26 April 05 17:51 BST (UK)
Hi there Fifer,
Is It possible for you to do a 1851 Census lookup for me?

I'm searching for a James Hendry, DOB according to 1871 census 1825 in Ireland, whereabouts, not noted, so can't trace his Birth Cert for sure.

I Know he was in the Old Monkland, Coatbridge area in 1858, as I have his sons Birth Cert for then, on another sons Birth Cert it gives his Marriage to Susan Clark nee Pollock as 1852, Girvan or St Quivox, Ayr (the text is blurred), and on a Daughter's Birth Cert, it states her, as being Born in  Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.

So Fifer... if you could do a lookup for me in the Girvan, St Quivox, Kilmarnock areas of Ayrshire, I'd be very grateful.

Thx
Jim.Hendry.  :)

Hi Jim
I had a look for you but the Girven Film was a really bad copy and if they were there they must have been in the bad parts its was unreadable in places didnt have time to search the st quivox yet i will check that next week for you.

Angela :(
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Izzy on Wednesday 27 April 05 00:55 BST (UK)
Hi fifer thank you
My older sister told me today that she found our granny [Jeanie Watson ] dead in about 1957 in Glasgow I don t know if this Information will help she also said she could have been buried under the name Rossini even if they never married I hope this helps
                        Thanks again    Izzy
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Burrow Digger on Wednesday 27 April 05 01:43 BST (UK)
IF you're still doing lookups, could you check the 1851 census for Elizabeth Simpson in Edinburgh?
Birthplace South Ronaldsay, Orkney.
age from 20 to 28

(I have different birthyears for her - 1823 & 1828, and a christening in 1837)

She has to be in Edinburgh because she had a baby born in Edinburgh in 1852, although she didnt get married until 1856.

The only clue I have to the possible location is where they were in 1856

Castle and Portsburgh Edinburgh
Family Lived 5 Milner Court Edinburgh

Oh and Elizabeth  hopefully is residing with a man named Thomas  Fairbairn or possibly Freebairn whom she later married.  If not, I'd like to know who she is living with.

I hope this enough info.

Thanks

BD
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Friday 29 April 05 12:14 BST (UK)
Hi there Fifer,

Good of you to offer lookups, Thanks for your last search I had forgotten I'd asked you for one, I'm still looking for the same guy, and according to his Death Cert he had another wife before Susan Hendrie.

I'd like you to have a look for a Marriage of this guy in Ireland... when you have the time, next week is OK with me, although I don't have a place or a fixed time zone, just a guesstimate, the people I'm looking for are:

James Houden or Hendrie or Henry  (age 24 at 1845)

Agnes Green

Approx Marriage date 1845 or thereabouts (son Thomas Houden or Hendrie born then)

Thx in advance

regards

Jim.Hendry.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 04 May 05 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi fifer thank you
My older sister told me today that she found our granny [Jeanie Watson ] dead in about 1957 in Glasgow I don t know if this Information will help she also said she could have been buried under the name Rossini even if they never married I hope this helps
                        Thanks again    Izzy

Hi Izzy
Had a look for you and only came across this one
1956  jeanie Watson  age 72   Johnston Renfrew  no 27

as you havent said how old she would have been i dont know if this is right .

Let me know if it isnt and i will check next week.

Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 04 May 05 12:47 BST (UK)
Hi there Fifer,

Good of you to offer lookups, Thanks for your last search I had forgotten I'd asked you for one, I'm still looking for the same guy, and according to his Death Cert he had another wife before Susan Hendrie.

I'd like you to have a look for a Marriage of this guy in Ireland... when you have the time, next week is OK with me, although I don't have a place or a fixed time zone, just a guesstimate, the people I'm looking for are:

James Houden or Hendrie or Henry  (age 24 at 1845)

Agnes Green

Approx Marriage date 1845 or thereabouts (son Thomas Houden or Hendrie born then)

Thx in advance

regards

Jim.Hendry.
Hi Jim
I checked the Irish marriage index from 1845-onwards  and couldnt find them im afraid they only start at 1845 so if it was the year before it wouldnt be there.

Sorry Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 04 May 05 12:49 BST (UK)
IF you're still doing lookups, could you check the 1851 census for Elizabeth Simpson in Edinburgh?
Birthplace South Ronaldsay, Orkney.
age from 20 to 28

(I have different birthyears for her - 1823 & 1828, and a christening in 1837)

She has to be in Edinburgh because she had a baby born in Edinburgh in 1852, although she didnt get married until 1856.

The only clue I have to the possible location is where they were in 1856

Castle and Portsburgh Edinburgh
Family Lived 5 Milner Court Edinburgh

Oh and Elizabeth  hopefully is residing with a man named Thomas  Fairbairn or possibly Freebairn whom she later married.  If not, I'd like to know who she is living with.

I hope this enough info.

Thanks

BD
Checked that address and surronding areas and couldnt find them im afraid.
Edinburgh is to big to search through without knowing a area im afraid.


Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Wednesday 04 May 05 15:45 BST (UK)
Hi there Fifer,
Is It possible for you to do a 1851 Census lookup for me?

I'm searching for a James Hendry, DOB according to 1871 census 1825 in Ireland, whereabouts, not noted, so can't trace his Birth Cert for sure.

I Know he was in the Old Monkland, Coatbridge area in 1858, as I have his sons Birth Cert for then, on another sons Birth Cert it gives his Marriage to Susan Clark nee Pollock as 1852, Girvan or St Quivox, Ayr (the text is blurred), and on a Daughter's Birth Cert, it states her, as being Born in  Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.

So Fifer... if you could do a lookup for me in the Girvan, St Quivox, Kilmarnock areas of Ayrshire, I'd be very grateful.

Thx
Jim.Hendry.  :)

Hi Jim
I had a look for you but the Girven Film was a really bad copy and if they were there they must have been in the bad parts its was unreadable in places didnt have time to search the st quivox yet i will check that next week for you.

Angela :(

Hi again Angela,

thankyou very much for your taking the time to help me out, next week is fine.

I've had some new info recently and now think that they were (supposedly) married in St Quivox around 1852, Wallacetown, or Newtown on Ayr.

It may be that they were Roman Catholic and there may have been a R.C Church in Wallacetown, so they may not appear on the LDS records, but some do, I have written to the R.C Records place in Glasgow so I may get some joy there.

Thanks again and I look forward to hearing from you.

Jim.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Izzy on Wednesday 04 May 05 23:15 BST (UK)
Hi Angela {fifer} thanks for having another look for Jeanie Watson I don t think the one you found is her she was seventy when she died in 1957 and Ithink she was buried at the cemetery near celtic s home ground she married someone in about 1914-15 Ithink in Aberdeen after she had illigitimate son then she went back to glasgow her parents remained in Aberdeen until her mothers death 
                                Iam really grateful for the time you ve took to look  thankyou  Izzy
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Burrow Digger on Thursday 05 May 05 02:23 BST (UK)
Quote
IF you're still doing lookups, could you check the 1851 census for Elizabeth Simpson in Edinburgh?
Birthplace South Ronaldsay, Orkney.
age from 20 to 28

The only clue I have to the possible location is where they were in 1856

Castle and Portsburgh Edinburgh
Family Lived 5 Milner Court Edinburgh


Checked that address and surronding areas and couldnt find them im afraid.
Edinburgh is to big to search through without knowing a area im afraid.

Thanks anyway Angela,

I appreciate you looking for me.

BD
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: alastair_banks on Sunday 08 May 05 01:52 BST (UK)
Hi Angela

Would you mind looking up a few more OPR records?

They're marriages from Dunfermline

Thomas FORD m Christian MILLIE 16 Nov 1833.
John MILLIE m Isabella BAIN 11 May 1835.
John YEATTS m Georgina MILLIE 17 Apr 1847

Cheers

Alastair
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 10 May 05 18:27 BST (UK)
Hi Angela

Would you mind looking up a few more OPR records?

They're marriages from Dunfermline

Thomas FORD m Christian MILLIE 16 Nov 1833.
John MILLIE m Isabella BAIN 11 May 1835.
John YEATTS m Georgina MILLIE 17 Apr 1847

Cheers

Alastair


Hi Alistair
Some of them were hard to read ive tried to do my bast but some of it may not be right.

16 Nov 1833
Thomas Ford Labourer  Lochend and Christine Millie Residing there gave in there names for proclamation in order to marriage being regular .proclaimed and no objections made certficate to that affect was granted.

11 may 1835
John Millie Labourer Dunfermline and Isabella Bain Residing there gave there names for proclamation in order to marriage being regular. proclaimed and no objections made certificate to that effect was granted.


17 April 1947
John Yeatts ? and Miner ? Georgina Millar residing in the parish of Mark....?
gave there names for proclamation in order to marriage being regular.
Proclaimed and no objections made certificate to that effect was granted


the last one i had bother reading sorry about that.

Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Wednesday 11 May 05 10:30 BST (UK)
Hi Anglea,

If you get the chance could you please look up two OPR marriage records for me. I've got the references, don't know if that will help, but want to see what info is there before purchasing the actual documents. I also want to make sure in some cases it is the ones I am looking for.

GRO- 424/00 0016
FRAME- FR4564
GROOM- Hugh Marr
BRIDE- Mary Drummond
DATE- 2nd November 1822
LOCATION- Dunfermline

GRO- 644/01 043
FRAME- FR8007
GROOM- Robert Marr
BRIDE- Marion Russell
DATE- 12th July 1850
LOCATION- Glasgow

There was one other thing which I'm not sure if you would have access to and that is a statutory birth. I have tried in vain online to locate a birth I know exists but without any luck. The person was born in either 1899 or 1900 in Lanarkshire. I know the mother's name, pretty sure I know the dad's name and as she moved to the US I think I have the actual birthdate from a Social Security Number. If this is not possible then no worries.

FATHER- William Marr (or illegitimate)
MOTHER- Isabella Black (she claimed to married to William but can't confirm that)
CHILD- Isabella Marr (or Isabella Black if illegitimate, possibly could have been christened just Ella)
BIRTHPLACE- Lanarkshire (This information is in the 1901 Census. At that time her parents were living in the Gorbals )
DATE- 29th October 1899

Any help would be most appreciated as I've exhausted the online possibilities for these people at present.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 11 May 05 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi Robert
Will check on Tuesday for you when i go


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Wednesday 11 May 05 15:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Angela, much appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Wednesday 25 May 05 15:51 BST (UK)
Fifer hi again,

I am still stumped in trying to find James Hendrie, I now believe he was born somewhere in Ireland in 1821, this Info comes from 1861 Cen in Old Monklands, Lanarkshire, (born Ireland, this under the name Houden on this Census...why Houden..don't know) his age is given as 40 on this Census, and on his Death Cert in 1874, his age is 53, which agree's with 1861 Cen.
Death Cert or any of the other various Cert's I have do not record his Parents or Birthplace, only Ireland.

His son Thomas aged 16 is also born Ireland, (on 1861 Cen) and  Agnes Green was his James's first wife, James must have been Married to her in Ireland, but he has another son James junior born in c1852, (to Susan Hendrie? I think) at Ayr, Ayrshire, or KILMARNOCK, and I know he was in Dickie's Land, George St, WALLACETOWN, ST QUIVOX, in 1856 as he has a daughter born there and then.
Then again on another sons Birth Cert for 1861 he gives a marriage date of 1852, ST QUIVOX.

So if you're not confused with all this, could help me again, and look at the 1851 Census for the above areas, and there's a possibility of their being in NEWTON ON AYR around that time too.

had reply from the Catholic Record Dept, of Columba House, Glasgow, and they are not doing any private seaches anymore, I have to go to Reg House in Edinburgh, thats if you cant help me with a sighting in LDS


I'd be very obliged if you could find time to look for me again.

Kind Regards

Jim.

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 25 May 05 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi Jim
No Problem though it may take about a month to get back to you as they are closed in 2 weeks for a week if i find anything next week while im there i will let you know otherwise il llet you know after they open again .


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 25 May 05 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi Anglea,

If you get the chance could you please look up two OPR marriage records for me. I've got the references, don't know if that will help, but want to see what info is there before purchasing the actual documents. I also want to make sure in some cases it is the ones I am looking for.

GRO- 424/00 0016
FRAME- FR4564
GROOM- Hugh Marr
BRIDE- Mary Drummond
DATE- 2nd November 1822
LOCATION- Dunfermline

GRO- 644/01 043
FRAME- FR8007
GROOM- Robert Marr
BRIDE- Marion Russell
DATE- 12th July 1850
LOCATION- Glasgow

There was one other thing which I'm not sure if you would have access to and that is a statutory birth. I have tried in vain online to locate a birth I know exists but without any luck. The person was born in either 1899 or 1900 in Lanarkshire. I know the mother's name, pretty sure I know the dad's name and as she moved to the US I think I have the actual birthdate from a Social Security Number. If this is not possible then no worries.

FATHER- William Marr (or illegitimate)
MOTHER- Isabella Black (she claimed to married to William but can't confirm that)
CHILD- Isabella Marr (or Isabella Black if illegitimate, possibly could have been christened just Ella)
BIRTHPLACE- Lanarkshire (This information is in the 1901 Census. At that time her parents were living in the Gorbals )
DATE- 29th October 1899

Any help would be most appreciated as I've exhausted the online possibilities for these people at present.


Hi Robert
Sorry i havent got back in contact with you about this i am still trying to find them for you .the LDS will be closed in two weeks for a week just to let you know if i dont find anything before them i will check again when they open.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Wednesday 25 May 05 20:32 BST (UK)
Hi Jim
No Problem though it may take about a month to get back to you as they are closed in 2 weeks for a week if i find anything next week while im there i will let you know otherwise il llet you know after they open again .


Angela :)

Angela,

you must have a good heart to put up with all my havering, I've already had lots of help from Jap and Capricorn on the Ayrshire Page, I'm afraid I've been getting pretty mixed up with this Family, Jap has been great in putting me on the right course, he must have a lot of patience to have bothered with my problem Family, I must thank you also, for your continued interest.

look forward to hearing from you in about a months time.

Kind Regards

Jim.

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Thursday 26 May 05 13:55 BST (UK)
Hi Robert
Sorry i havent got back in contact with you about this i am still trying to find them for you .the LDS will be closed in two weeks for a week just to let you know if i dont find anything before them i will check again when they open.


Angela :)

No Problem Angela, just if you get the time. Anything is a bonus.  :)

Robert
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Izzy on Monday 06 June 05 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi fifer
Sorry to trouble you again was wondering if you can look again for Jeanie Watson she died 1957 at cranmore place
I would like to know anything you find father James
mother Marion calton Glasgow
                                      Thankyou Izzy
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: madmik60 on Tuesday 07 June 05 10:03 BST (UK)
re Irish look up for marr/around 1845-50 CO-MAYO for a
Michael Devany/devaney-Mary McHale-mother-Fleming
thankyou for your time   MICHAEL
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: netparsley on Wednesday 08 June 05 13:25 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,
I don't know if this is enough information to search the 1841 census or not??
I am looking for the following people in Penecuik.  They are:
James Mitchel and his wife Mary Hossack and children Elizabeth, Mary Show, Joan, Lydia, Jamima, Thomas and Robina.

Thanks so much for your help,
Regards,
Annette
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 08 June 05 15:19 BST (UK)
Hi To all new requests
As the lds is closed this week it maybe 2 weeks to a month before i can get back to any of you.

i will  let you know as soon as i find something


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: KPM on Thursday 09 June 05 14:30 BST (UK)
Hi
I wonder if you may be able to help me.  After a very long search, I have finally traced my family back to Fife.  I'm looking for Thomas & Helen Paterson.  Helen was born in 1804 and I'm trying to find out where and when Thomas was born but I've exhausted all my sources and wondered whether the Fife census would help.
Most of their children were born in St Monance or Kilconquhar, the last being in 1848.
Are you able to check either the 1841 or 1851 census for me to see whether it can provide me with any further information
Any help is very much appreciated

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: LindsaySiam on Thursday 09 June 05 15:18 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,

This is such a kind offer!  I would really appreciate an 1841 lookup on

Thomas Meldrum and and his wife Elizabeth (Pirie), they would both be in their 70's, if still alive and probably in Newburgh, Fife.

And if it's not pushing it ...

A Charlotte Wright and family, born c 1835 in Falkirk with parents either Robert and Elizabeth Wright or James and Elizabeth Wright on the Falkirk 1841 census.

If it's not enough info, particularly for the Meldrums, please don't spend too much time.

Many thanks,

Lindsay
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 14 June 05 17:48 BST (UK)
Fifer hi again,

I am still stumped in trying to find James Hendrie, I now believe he was born in Ireland in 1821, this Info comes from 1861 Cen in Old Monklands, Lanarkshire, (this under the name Houden..why..don't know) his age is given as 40, and also his Dth Cert in 1874, giving his age as 53, which agree's with Cen, Dth Cert or any of the various Cert's I have do not record his Parents or Birthplace, only Ireland.

His son Thomas aged 16 is also born Ireland, (1861 Cen) and I have to assume Agnes Green was his Mother, James must have been Married to her in Ireland, but he has another son James junior born in 1852, (to Susan Hendrie? I think) at Ayr, Ayrshire, and I know he was in Dickie's Land, George St, WALLACETOWN, ST QUIVOX, in 1856 as he has a daughter born there and then.

So if you're not confused with all this, could help me again, and look at the 1851 Cen for the above areas, and there's a possibility of their being in NEWTON ON AYR around that time too.

I'm still waiting for a reply from the Catholic Record Dept, of Columba House, Glasgow, but I'm not counting on getting any new Info from them.

I'd be very obliged if you could find time to look for me again.

Kind Regards

Jim.


Hi Jim
i had another look for you and couldnt find your james im afraid but did come accross 2 hendrie Familys in newton on ayr in 1851.
here they are

Newton on Ayr 1851
Peebles Street

James Hendrie  H  M  74  Carter                    Aryshire   maybole
Jane  hendrie   w  M  70                                 Ayrshire Kirkmichael
Hugh Mckay Gr s         7                                  Ayrshire stalton?
David Gibson  Lod       22  general labourer    Ireland


85 Peebles Street

John hendrie  h   mar   32   Carter    Ayr
jane               W   mar   29                  St Quivax
james             s           8        Scholar     St Quivax       
John                S           6           Scholar   Newton
Alexander        s           4                          newton
Jane                d           2                            newton
margaret         D           3m                           newton
Elizabeth Elder  Ser      15       House servant    Maybole 


Sorry it isnt the ones you want but i thought they maybe connected

i will kekep checking over next couple of weeks
Angela     :) 
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 14 June 05 17:53 BST (UK)
Hi
I wonder if you may be able to help me.  After a very long search, I have finally traced my family back to Fife.  I'm looking for Thomas & Helen Paterson.  Helen was born in 1804 and I'm trying to find out where and when Thomas was born but I've exhausted all my sources and wondered whether the Fife census would help.
Most of their children were born in St Monance or Kilconquhar, the last being in 1848.
Are you able to check either the 1841 or 1851 census for me to see whether it can provide me with any further information
Any help is very much appreciated


Hi
I came accross the following for you hope its the right one as you didnt give me any names of kids i wasnt sure.

St Monance  1841  Film 447-455
Burnside
Thomas Paterson  45   Wright   yes
Robert  Paterson   15                 yes
Thomas paterson  9 or 7            yes
John paterson       2                    Yes
helen  Paterson    35                  No
Helen Paterson     7                    yes
Jean paterson       4                    yes


Couldnt find them on the 1851

will have a look again next week for 1851
Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: KPM on Tuesday 14 June 05 18:40 BST (UK)
Hi
Thanks for the info.  Yes this is definitely them!  The family were:
Thomas Paterson (dob unknown)
Helen (1804)
Robert (1825)
William (1827)
Helen (1829)
Thomas (1832)
Elspet (1834)
Jane or Jean (1836)
John (1838)
George (1841)
Ann (1846)
David (1848)
Any info from the 1851 census would be appreciated.  Many thanks for the time you have spent looking into this for me.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Tuesday 14 June 05 20:13 BST (UK)
Fifer hi again,

I am still stumped in trying to find James Hendrie, I now believe he was born in Ireland in 1821, this Info comes from 1861 Cen in Old Monklands, Lanarkshire, (this under the name Houden..why..don't know) his age is given as 40, and also his Dth Cert in 1874, giving his age as 53, which agree's with Cen, Dth Cert or any of the various Cert's I have do not record his Parents or Birthplace, only Ireland.

His son Thomas aged 16 is also born Ireland, (1861 Cen) and I have to assume Agnes Green was his Mother, James must have been Married to her in Ireland, but he has another son James junior born in 1852, (to Susan Hendrie? I think) at Ayr, Ayrshire, and I know he was in Dickie's Land, George St, WALLACETOWN, ST QUIVOX, in 1856 as he has a daughter born there and then.

So if you're not confused with all this, could help me again, and look at the 1851 Cen for the above areas, and there's a possibility of their being in NEWTON ON AYR around that time too.

I'm still waiting for a reply from the Catholic Record Dept, of Columba House, Glasgow, but I'm not counting on getting any new Info from them.

I'd be very obliged if you could find time to look for me again.

Kind Regards

Jim.


Hi Jim
i had another look for you and couldnt find your james im afraid but did come accross 2 hendrie Familys in newton on ayr in 1851.
here they are

Newton on Ayr 1851
Peebles Street

James Hendrie  H  M  74  Carter                    Aryshire   maybole
Jane  hendrie   w  M  70                                 Ayrshire Kirkmichael
Hugh Mckay Gr s         7                                  Ayrshire stalton?
David Gibson  Lod       22  general labourer    Ireland


85 Peebles Street

John hendrie  h   mar   32   Carter    Ayr
jane               W   mar   29                  St Quivax
james             s           8        Scholar     St Quivax       
John                S           6           Scholar   Newton
Alexander        s           4                          newton
Jane                d           2                            newton
margaret         D           3m                           newton
Elizabeth Elder  Ser      15       House servant    Maybole 


Sorry it isnt the ones you want but i thought they maybe connected

i will kekep checking over next couple of weeks
Angela     :) 

Angela,

I sent you a personal message, but I'm not sure if it went, so I'll add a quote.

Thx for the sighting but, as you say the two you found don't look right, so could I impose on your good nature to look again in the 1851 Cen, for:

James Houden and Susan Clark nee pollock same details as before, it's possible he was married to a Agnes Green at that time too, I'm not sure, the name Houden is what they appear as in the 1861 Cen for some reason.

Could you also look 1851 Cen for a son Thomas Houden or Hendrie born Ireland, he would be aged around 5 at that time and a second son James Houden/Hendrie/Hendry born Ayr, ayrshire 1851 and would be a few months old then.

This is the last I'll ask of you as you've did enough for me already.

Kind Regards

Jim.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Wednesday 15 June 05 00:23 BST (UK)
Angela,

Wondering if you are still heading to the local LDS center.  You have helped me immensely before and wondered if I could impose on you good nature again.


I have the index inforation for the Glasgow census and wondered if you could get the information on the household.

1861 Census, Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanarkshire
644/10
ED 5, page 4

John Andrew, age 48, born Paisley
Ann G. Andrew, age 15, born Paisley
I am not sure if there were others in the household.

Thank you!!- Kristin


Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 21 June 05 15:13 BST (UK)
Angela,

Wondering if you are still heading to the local LDS center.  You have helped me immensely before and wondered if I could impose on you good nature again.


I have the index inforation for the Glasgow census and wondered if you could get the information on the household.

1861 Census, Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanarkshire
644/10
ED 5, page 4

John Andrew, age 48, born Paisley
Ann G. Andrew, age 15, born Paisley
I am not sure if there were others in the household.

Thank you!!- Kristin



Hi Kristin
Had a look for you  they are on there own.

Address looks like  63 Charmichael Road area of Govan
John Andrew  head mar 48  Private Watchman?   Renfrew paisley
Ann g Andrew  Dau  un   15  Machine Sewer         Renfrew paisley



Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Tuesday 21 June 05 22:30 BST (UK)
Angela,

You are a star!! Thank you.- Kristin
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Sunday 26 June 05 05:45 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer;
          Would you be able to do a couple of lookups for me please? I am searching for the death of Robert Robertson in Cupar Fife. He was born about 1794. He was a jeweller and his wife was Isabella. His father was also Robert and his mother was Clementina. I was also hoping that he might be on any censuses of Cupar.[1841 onwards] Would you also be able to tell me of any children born to George Robertson and wife Margaret [Morris] They had one son Robert born 1880.  I hope I am not asking too much, but would be very grateful for your help. Regards Pam :D
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 29 June 05 13:34 BST (UK)
To everyone who asked for a recient lookup.
Just to say sorry i didnt make it to lds yesterday  :( i forgot all out it
Must be all this hot weather getting to me.

Will get back to you all next week.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Monday 11 July 05 03:00 BST (UK)
Hi Angela;
               I was wondering if it would be possible to find a birth for my Robert Robertson as well. He was born at Cupar about 1759. Regards Pam
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: hendren on Thursday 14 July 05 18:55 BST (UK)
Hello Fifer,

If possible could you do a lookup for me please.
It's the birth of John Hendren, born about 1894/5.
His father was William Hendren, mother Agnes I don't know her maiden name.
He was born in Ayr, possibly Annbank or Tarbolton.
Hope you can help
from Maureen.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 21 July 05 17:47 BST (UK)
Hi All

Sorry i havent been in contact for a while i have been getting house decorated and just havent had the time to go to the lds the last 2 weeks and im going away next week for a week but will get back to you as soon as i can.
it will be a couple of weeks before i get back to the lds to do some search now.
If anyone has already found what they were looking for and doesnt need the lookup now can you please let me know so im not waisting time looking them up.

Sorry

Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Friday 22 July 05 03:17 BST (UK)
Thanks Angela. I still need lookups when you get time. Cheers Pam :D
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Friday 22 July 05 13:03 BST (UK)
Ok Angela,

I'm in no rush, I don't envy you having to decorate, I hate doing DIY.

Kind Regards

Jim. Hendry.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Bethan on Sunday 28 August 05 21:30 BST (UK)
Angela,I wonder if you could possibly do a marriage lookup for me if ever you get a chance,I realise that you have quite a lot on at the moment,but I would be very gratefull if you could help me.
I am looking for Harriette Muirhead who married William Russell around 1910,
I believe that they married in Edingborough before emigrating to Montreal,Harriette was born in Wexford+William was born in Orkney,
Thank you so much for your interest,Bethan
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 06 September 05 15:12 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer;
          Would you be able to do a couple of lookups for me please? I am searching for the death of Robert Robertson in Cupar Fife. He was born about 1794. He was a jeweller and his wife was Isabella. His father was also Robert and his mother was Clementina. I was also hoping that he might be on any censuses of Cupar.[1841 onwards] Would you also be able to tell me of any children born to George Robertson and wife Margaret [Morris] They had one son Robert born 1880.  I hope I am not asking too much, but would be very grateful for your help. Regards Pam :D
Hi Pam sorry its taken me a while to get back to you ive only just got back to the lds today.
I checked the 1851 census for Robert but couldnt find him im afraid.
And there isnt a 1841 for cupar it went down in the forth with alot of other 1841 records the only way i will be able to get a death for him is through the old parish records but that may take a while as they can be very hard to read so you may have to be patient with me while i look.

Came across George and  margaret in the 1891 census

Book 2 Cupar 1891
40    35   Bonnygate  9 Rooms or more

george B Robertson   Head   mar   54   Jewller  Cupar
MArgaret  Robertson                  Wife     mar  39                 Earlsferry
Eliza       Robertson     sister          64                 Cupar
Robert       Robertson     son             10       Sch      Cupar
Cecily M Robertson       Dau             9         sch         Cupar
John A  Robertson        Son              4                        Cupar
Agnes Paterson           serv            19         servant domestic    Leuchars



Hope this helps


Angela  :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 06 September 05 15:14 BST (UK)
Hello Fifer,

If possible could you do a lookup for me please.
It's the birth of John Hendren, born about 1894/5.
His father was William Hendren, mother Agnes I don't know her maiden name.
He was born in Ayr, possibly Annbank or Tarbolton.
Hope you can help
from Maureen.

Here is the info you requested Maureen
John  Hendren   1895   Tarbolton     no 80

Also came across the following for you may be a relative

James Hendren   1895   Tarbolton   no 57


Hope this helps

Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 06 September 05 15:19 BST (UK)
Angela,I wonder if you could possibly do a marriage lookup for me if ever you get a chance,I realise that you have quite a lot on at the moment,but I would be very gratefull if you could help me.
I am looking for Harriette Muirhead who married William Russell around 1910,
I believe that they married in Edingborough before emigrating to Montreal,Harriette was born in Wexford+William was born in Orkney,
Thank you so much for your interest,Bethan
Hi bethan
I checked the inedex for you for the years 1905-1915  but couldnt find them im afraid if you would like to check further let me know


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Tuesday 06 September 05 15:31 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer;
         Thanks for 1891 census. A great help as it gives me children to George. Cheers Pam  ;D
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 06 September 05 15:33 BST (UK)
Hi Pam let me know if you would like the 1901
I will have to check that at library for you though but its not a problem as im hoping to go there in the next few days.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Bethan on Tuesday 06 September 05 16:14 BST (UK)
Dear Angela,Thank you so much for looking for me,the only thing I can think of is that they might have got married in Montreal,or possibly before 1905,as William John Russell was in the Highland Regiment,they could have been married anywhere in Scotland,but family legend has it that they met in Edingborough,Thank you anyway for all your help.
Bethan
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Tuesday 06 September 05 18:34 BST (UK)
Angela,

Could you have another look for my problem family, see here page 12.

Kind regards

Jim.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Wednesday 07 September 05 01:58 BST (UK)
Hi Angela;
             I would love the 1901 census if it is not too much trouble. I am extremely grateful for your help. Cheers Pam
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: hendren on Thursday 08 September 05 15:56 BST (UK)
Hello Angela

Thanks for the information.
If possable could you look up a marriage for me please.

Phillippe (maybe down as Philip) Maurer and Elizabeth Mc Dowall.
It would have been around 1875-80 in Ayr.
Many thanks
Maureen.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Saturday 10 September 05 15:20 BST (UK)
Hi Angela. I think I have just found Robert Robertson still alive in 1861 as he is listed at 35 Bonnygate as a jeweller and inspector of weights and measures. He would be about 68 years old at this stage. His son Robert [jeweller]was already here in Australia by this stage. Pam
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Saturday 10 September 05 16:56 BST (UK)
Hi Pam
That great i coudnt find him in the 1851 so will look again for you.if its deffinatly him in the 1861 i should be able to get his death cert so i will check it out on tuesday for you i havent been able to get to the libary yet will get sometime next week will let you know what i find.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Sunday 11 September 05 07:02 BST (UK)
Hi Angela;
              Thanks so much. Is it possible to see if Jessie Isabella Robertson had a death recorded? [Roberts wife]. Cheers Pam
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Monday 19 September 05 14:56 BST (UK)
Hi Angela;
              I have discovered that Robert Robertson died 14th May 1877. I still would like to find his wife, Jessie Isabella Robertsons death if it is possible.
  Cheers Pam
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 20 September 05 08:58 BST (UK)
Hi Pam

Do you have the death certificate of robert does it list if he was still married or a widower when he died let me know and it will help narrow down the search i will be leaving in the next few hours to go to lds so hopefully will find something for you today.



Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Tuesday 20 September 05 09:38 BST (UK)
Hi Angela
            No, I don`t have a death certificate.  Sorry. Cheers Pam
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Tuesday 20 September 05 09:43 BST (UK)
 :-[ Hi Angela, sory to bother you again. Would it be possible to see if Robert Robertson born around 1756 is mentioned in old parish records if you get time? He was a tinsmith and married to Clementina Stewart. Don`t worry if you are too busy. Cheers Pam.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 20 September 05 09:55 BST (UK)
Hi Pam

No Problem I will have a look for you .


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 20 September 05 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi Angela;
              I have discovered that Robert Robertson died 14th May 1877. I still would like to find his wife, Jessie Isabella Robertsons death if it is possible.
  Cheers Pam


Hi Pam
had a look on the parish records but couldnt find him im afraid but i will keep looking for you as you probably know the parish records arent an easy thing to read so will have a look next week again.

But i found a couple of things for you dont know if you have them but i will post them anyway.
Notice the difference in the ages if you need me to check again next week let me know but im possitive i wrote them down right but you never know.

1861 census

35 Bonnygate Cupar

Robert Robertson   head   62    jeweller  Inspector of Weights   Copar
Jessie Isabella        Wife    60                                                      Dunkeld Perthshire
John Alexander        Son    29   Dentist                                        Cupar
Elizabeth MAy          Dau    26                                                       Cupar
George brunton      son     24    Jeweller                                       Cupar

1871 Census Cupar

39 Bonnygate  Page 8  Book1
Robert Robertson   H  Wid   76   Inspector of Wieghts     Cupar
Anges  Crombie      Ser  Un   20                                        Cupar



41  Bonnygate 
George B Robertson   head   Un 34   jeweller inspector of Weights  Cupar
Elizabeth M                 Sister   un 44                                   Cupar
Williamina                  Neice          14                                    China
Janet B Myles              Boarder     50                                    Cupar




And Death Certificate of Jessie

1870   Parish of Cupar County of Fife
JESSIE ISABELLA ROBERTSON 
Married to Robert Robertson
Died  feb 11  1870   2h om pm    Bonnygate Cupar
Age 77
Parents  John Alexander  (Leather Mearchant) Elizabeth Stewart (dec)
Died of Paralys for years   as certified by J Walker Md
Informed by G B Robertson  (son) Present
Registered on 1870 feb 14  Cupar   



Hope this helps


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: JAP on Tuesday 20 September 05 15:32 BST (UK)
It can be quite disconcerting to all involved to find that the same matter is being pursued on different threads - and that lookups are being done more than once, and without all information which is to hand having been made available.

For completeness and to optimize our efforts, the Robert ROBERTSON family is also being pursued on:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,90242.0.html

Also, much of the information on this thread (post-1855 BDM certificates, and 1871 and later censuses) can be found on the pay-per-view site (rates are reasonable) ScotlandsPeople at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

JAP
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Wednesday 21 September 05 09:44 BST (UK)
THank you Angela; Your help is very much appreciated.
   Cheers Pam
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: nutkin on Thursday 08 December 05 00:01 GMT (UK)
Angela,

Curious if you were still popping into the LDS.  I have a death record I need some assistance finding.

Janet Andrew(s) died between the 1851-1861 census.  Her mainden name is Clelland. Daughter of James Clelland and Ann Gardener born in 1823 in High Church, Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland.

In 1851- Husband John Andrews, age 38 , Janet, age 28 and daughter Ann, age 6 lived in Paisley, Renfrewshire.

In 1861, Huband John Andrews, age 48, occupation Patrolman and Daughter Ann G. Andrew, age 15, lived at 63 Commercial Road, Glasgow, Lanarkshire. In 1863, they lived at the same address and John worked as an engine keeper (info from Ann's marriage record).

Janet must have died between the two censuses.

Thank you so much.- Kristin

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Thursday 08 December 05 12:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Angela,

Have you had any luck with my post, (see Page 12), I'm still looking for these people.

Kind Regards

Jim.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Friday 09 December 05 20:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Angela,

Me again....I know I have asked you for another lookup, and I feel that I'm being a nuisance, but I wondered if maybe you could kindly help me with another search.
I see you say at the start of your offer to help, that you have only a limited search area in the Fife LDS, but I would like to ask you if the records cover parts of England, i.e Herefordshire, and if they do, could you look up a Marriage for  these two people for me? I'd be ever so grateful, here goes:

MARRIED 1ST APRIL 1939, IN BRAMPTON BRYAN, HEREFORDSHIRE.

THOMAS CORBETT DAVIES DOB 1798, BYTON, HEREFORD, (OR KNIGHTON RADNOR) OCC: CORDWAINER, (SHOEMAKER)
(Father's name on LDS record Thomas Corbett, no Davies.)

and:

ANN PRICE DOB 1809 BRAMPTON BRYAN, HEREFORDSHIRE.
(Father's name on LDS record Thomas Price)

I obtained this Info from the online LDS org site, and the Batch No, Source Call and Film number's are as follows:

M139731  1638             0992236      Film.
M139731  1665-1849    0992236      Film.

I need to know their definate POBs and ages at the time of Marriage to go back further, If they don't have the records, its OK, again, many thanks.

Kind Regards

Jim Hendry.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 21 December 05 17:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Henry
Sorry only just got your message havent been online alot at the moment  im not to sure yet when im going back to the lds with it being christmas.
But because its English i wont be able to find out anything for you on this only whats on the familysearch site.
You may be better posting this to the relevent board someone shold be able to help you .
I havent bene to the lds for about 6 weeks now but hoping to get back after Newyear.
I wil lpost a message on the board when im available for lookups again.The only way you will be able to look them up is to be able to get the film in your self at your local lds or as i say to post to another board.

Sorry about this

Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Wednesday 21 December 05 18:33 GMT (UK)
Ok thanks anyway Angela

Jim.

Hi Henry
Sorry only just got your message havent been online alot at the moment  im not to sure yet when im going back to the lds with it being christmas.
But because its English i wont be able to find out anything for you on this only whats on the familysearch site.
You may be better posting this to the relevent board someone shold be able to help you .
I havent bene to the lds for about 6 weeks now but hoping to get back after Newyear.
I wil lpost a message on the board when im available for lookups again.The only way you will be able to look them up is to be able to get the film in your self at your local lds or as i say to post to another board.

Sorry about this

Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Saturday 31 December 05 17:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Angela,

This is more a general question. When you go to the LDS Centre do you have access to the "Scottish Church Records" CD. This index is apparently more complete than the IGI and searchable. I was just wondering if it would be possible to check a couple of lookups if you can use the CD. I mailed the LDS last month about the possibility of puchasing it but they let me know it is not for sale but that every Scottish LDS centre has one.

Thanks

Robert
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Saturday 31 December 05 17:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Robert

Yes its available for lookup at the lds let me know details of what you want looked up it maybe a few weeks before i go back again but will check it out for you when i go.it seems to have more records it isnt something i have looked at very often though.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Saturday 31 December 05 18:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Robert

Yes its available for lookup at the lds let me know details of what you want looked up it maybe a few weeks before i go back again but will check it out for you when i go.it seems to have more records it isnt something i have looked at very often though.


Angela :)

That was quick.  :o

Cheers, that would be great. The chances are slim but it's my last hope. If the births are not on there then I think they must not have been registered. If you need more info let me know. The people below were all the children of Hugh Marr and Mary Drummond, the ones in green I already have off the IGI:

Hugh Marr, born 8/2/1824 in Barony, Lanark.
Margaret Marr, born abt 1826 in Barony Lanark
Robert Marr, born 19/1/1828 in Barony, Lanark.
Janet Marr, born 16/1/1830 in Barony, Lanark.

Thomas Marr, born abt 1837 in Barony Lanark
Richard (Bradbrook) Marr, born abt 1840 in Barony Lanark
Helen (Bradbrook) Marr, born abt 1840 in Barony Lanark
Janet Marr, born abt 1843 in Barony Lanark  (the earlier Janet died)

Any help would be appreciated. Enjoy the new year.  :)

Cheers

Robert
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 11 January 06 19:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Robert

i checked the scottish parish church records cd for you but there was more info on the IGI instead of the cd im afraid.But there was one diffence on there Robert was Listed as the son of John Marr and Mary Drummond instead of Hugh Marr.None of the other kids were on there im afraid.


Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 11 January 06 19:44 GMT (UK)
For all other Lookups will check out next tuesday for you when i go.


Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Robert_Marr on Thursday 12 January 06 23:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Robert

i checked the scottish parish church records cd for you but there was more info on the IGI instead of the cd im afraid.But there was one diffence on there Robert was Listed as the son of John Marr and Mary Drummond instead of Hugh Marr.None of the other kids were on there im afraid.


Angela

Hi Angela,

Thanks for looking. I didn't hold out much hope but more importantly it puts my mind at rest. There is nothing worse that a nag at the back of your mind that something might actually be there.

I've actually got the entry for Robert as he is a direct descendant- my gx3 grandfather. As you pointed out it is indexed wrongly saying his father is John. The actually records clearly says Hugh so I'm not sure how that happened.

Again, thanks for your time.

Robert
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scots lass on Wednesday 29 March 06 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer are you still willing to do look ups? this one is a bit hit and miss as I don't have a lot to go on I am looking for John Kidd married Elizabeth Blain do not have date they had two daughters that I know of Helen Kidd born Glenacre Perth 1855 and Margaret no date would be very grateful for any info you may find. Regards Helen
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: hendren on Sunday 02 April 06 14:56 BST (UK)
Hello Fifer

If possible could you look up a marriage for me please.

Thomas Hendren married Elizabeth Inglis 9th Oct 1859 at St Quivox  Ayr.
I am after their parents names

Hope you can help

Maureen
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 11 April 06 16:12 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer are you still willing to do look ups? this one is a bit hit and miss as I don't have a lot to go on I am looking for John Kidd married Elizabeth Blain do not have date they had two daughters that I know of Helen Kidd born Glenacre Perth 1855 and Margaret no date would be very grateful for any info you may find. Regards Helen


Hi helen

Had a Look for you today the only kids i can come accross are the following but the mother is listed as Bayne not Blain


John Kidd/Elizabeth Bayne married 3 June 1845 Perth

Kids
Margaret Davidson Kidd  B   19 Mar 1846 .... Perth C 9 April 1846  Perth
Elizabeth Livingstone Kidd  B  18 feb 1848.... perth  C 27 Feb  1848  perth
isabella Chapman Kidd   B  12 Mar 1850 Perth .....  C  9 June  1850  Perth
Ellen     Kidd                  B  24 April 1853   Perth .....    C 22 May 1853  Perth
 John Kidd B 1 MAr 1855  Perth .....
Mary Jemima Tait Kidd  B 18 MAr 1857  Perth ......
Let me know if you need census lookups i dint want to do any of them untill you confirm its them

Regards Angela(Fifer) :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scots lass on Tuesday 11 April 06 17:59 BST (UK)
Hi and thanks think this is right family, I have spelling Bain but things change down the years would be grateful for census. many thanks for your help. Helen
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 11 April 06 18:14 BST (UK)
Hi Helen

Let me know what census you require and i will check them out next week for you .

Angela :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: scots lass on Tuesday 11 April 06 20:53 BST (UK)
Hi Thanks would it be possable for 1871 and 1881 you are so kind. Helen ;D
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: alastair_banks on Saturday 15 April 06 22:23 BST (UK)
Hi Angela

Would you mind looking up the details for the following OPR Christenings in Leslie, Fife?

They are the children of Peter BAIN and Carolina BRENZEN

Janet BAIN b 23 Sep 1824, Leslie, Fife
David BAIN b 3 Dec 1826, Leslie, Fife
John BAIN b 23 Sep 1830, Leslie, Fife

Cheers

Alastair
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Saturday 15 April 06 22:51 BST (UK)
Hi Alastair

Will check it out for you on tuesday.

Regards
Angela :)
Title: *completed* Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: sherylbadger on Wednesday 03 May 06 05:12 BST (UK)
wondering if you could do a search for a Jean Scott married name Meldrum.

she is in the 1881 as being 74 years of age under name of Jean Scott.

Also looking for a Robert Meldrum born in Collessie 1828.  All i can find is one born in Leuchars but i don't think it is a match as those parents died really early and i know mine was still around in 1881.

Info i have Robert born Collessie 1828 Mother Jean Scott and James Meldrum. (on his death certificate) father was a coachman domestic servant

Margaret Meldrum grandmother widow aged 74 born Pittenweem was with Robert Meldrum in the 1851 census but cannot find mother.

Any help would be great.  I did find another family but the dates don't add up

Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Kiwicousey on Wednesday 03 May 06 10:05 BST (UK)
Hello Fify, I am very new to this but would love to find out more of my Scottish ancestors. My great grandfather Colin THOM was born (I think) in Fife, certainly Perthshire in 1832. His father was William & mother Mary nee Lockhart. Do not know if he had siblings. He came to New Zealand we think in the 1860s but we can not find out how he came. No boat records that we can find. What we really want to know is more about his parents William & Mary. Can you please help?
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: ladybird on Wednesday 03 May 06 10:12 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm wondering if you can help with this please

I have this from SP but there seems to be no image with it.
I'd like to know who else is listed and whether I have the right Christian Burt born Falkirk.

1 1851 BURT CHRISTIAN F 23 DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 003/00 004 No Image ORDER

There may be some connection here between an Andrew Burt and Ann Toshack married in Dunfermline...haven't quite worked it out yet

Thank you, Sylvia
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 03 May 06 12:13 BST (UK)
Hi

To Everyone wanted a lookup i will see what i can do havent been able to go the last 2 weeks hoping to go back next week if i can get booked in.Sorry to those of you you asked reciently will get to yours first when i go.

To Ladybird
I wont be able to check image for for this im afraid as they only start from 1855  the only way you will be able to see it is to order the image from edinburgh im afraid.
the only thing i can do  if its a marriage is to search the opr's it may list if they were from the parish  and may list wittness's witch may give you clues.

Let me know if you would like me to check that for you.


Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: ladybird on Wednesday 03 May 06 20:22 BST (UK)
Sorry Fifer
I should have been a bit clearer.
This the 1851 census entry from SP ...for some unknown reason the image isn't available
Ladybird
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 07 June 06 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone
Bad News im afraid i wil lnot be able to carry on doing lookups for a while as my husband is in hosptal after having a heart attack so not sure when i will be able to get back to do search and things.As he will need alot of care when he is out .
Sorry to all thats waiting.


Regards

Angela(Fifer)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Thursday 15 March 07 01:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer. If you have the time, would it be possible to locate a marriage in Cupar Fife on OPR for a Clementine Ireland? She was born at Cupar Fife 1824 [parents James Ireland and Jean Robertson]
Would it be possible to find  her and her siblings on 1841+ census for Cupar?
Clementine Ireland b 1824
Thomas ireland B 1822
Isobel ireland 1827
Jean Ireland 1831.  All born Cupar.
Many thanks. Pa ;D
                                 
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 15 March 07 15:16 GMT (UK)
Hiya
It may be about a week before i can look it up for you.
But will see what i can do.

Regards

Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Thursday 15 March 07 15:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Fifer. If you have the time, would it be possible to locate a marriage in Cupar Fife on OPR for a Clementine Ireland? She was born at Cupar Fife 1824 [parents James Ireland and Jean Robertson]
Would it be possible to find  her and her siblings on 1841+ census for Cupar?
Clementine Ireland b 1824
Thomas ireland B 1822
Isobel ireland 1827
Jean Ireland 1831.  All born Cupar.
Many thanks. Pa ;D
                                 

Here they are on the 1851 in bonnygate in Cupar

James Ireland  age 55  Head  born abt 1796  Wright born ceres
Clementina  "   age 25  Dau   born  abt 1826  Servant Born Cupar
Jean  Ireland   age 20 Dau  born abt 1831   Servant born Cupar
James Ireland age 3  G Son Born abt 1848  Cupar
Robert Morrison  age 2   G Son  born abt 1849  Cupar
William Foraker age 1 G Son Abt 1850 Cupar


This is taken from the index i can check the proper entry for you when i go to thel ibrary.
Kids Listed as Children of Jean
Regards

There isnt an 1841 Cupar Census im afraid it was one of the parishes that were lost.
Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Thursday 15 March 07 23:33 GMT (UK)
Many Thanks Fifer. Its a tremndous help. Cheers Pam ;D
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 29 May 07 18:21 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone
As from next tuesday i will be able to start doing lookups again
Please read 1st message to see what records i can lookup.

I only go every tuesday but can go to the local libary as well  for records in fife many census  and newspapers there.

Regards

Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: alastair_banks on Tuesday 29 May 07 20:12 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Great to hear that you're able to help again.

Would you mind looking up the details for the following OPR Christenings in Leslie, Fife?

They are the children of Peter BAIN and Carolina BRENZEN

Janet BAIN b 23 Sep 1824, Leslie, Fife
David BAIN b 3 Dec 1826, Leslie, Fife
John BAIN b 23 Sep 1830, Leslie, Fife

Cheers

Alastair
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Tuesday 29 May 07 20:26 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer

Great to hear that you're able to help again.

Would you mind looking up the details for the following OPR Christenings in Leslie, Fife?

They are the children of Peter BAIN and Carolina BRENZEN

Janet BAIN b 23 Sep 1824, Leslie, Fife
David BAIN b 3 Dec 1826, Leslie, Fife
John BAIN b 23 Sep 1830, Leslie, Fife

Cheers

Alastair

Hi Alistair
No problem will get back to you next week after ive been.

Regards

Fifer :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: waiteohman on Wednesday 30 May 07 01:30 BST (UK)
Hello Angela

Could you please look up this Irish marriage?  Samuel Rainey + Mary Brown m. July 22, 1845 Dromarrouh (Dromara) Co. Down. I suspect it might be a Catholic marriage as their daughter married in Catholic Church in Scotland. Info is from a son's birth certificate. Would love to know the Church.

Linda
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 30 May 07 10:28 BST (UK)
Hello Angela

Could you please look up this Irish marriage?  Samuel Rainey + Mary Brown m. July 22, 1845 Dromarrouh (Dromara) Co. Down. I suspect it might be a Catholic marriage as their daughter married in Catholic Church in Scotland. Info is from a son's birth certificate. Would love to know the Church.

Linda
Hi Linda
Iwill see what i can find out.

Regards

Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: JAP on Wednesday 30 May 07 12:40 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,

My children's paternal relative, John PHILP, tenant farmer of Bankhead Dalgety Fife, was arrested for forgery and uttering in December 1847 and imprisoned in Dunfermline.  At the Perth Sessions in April 1848, John was convicted and sentenced to 7 years transportation.

There was an unsuccessful petition to the Home Secretary in December 1848 - signed by almost all the worthies and gentry of West Fife (about 150 persons including the local landowner, the local judge, the local minister, etc, etc but notably with the exception of his paternal uncle - his late father's brother - John PHILP of Kelty, Beath about whom I have my own suspicions) - and a further (successful) petition by 'convict' John's wife (Margaret MUIR of Barone Park, Rothesay, Bute) after which 'convict' John was pardoned in April 1850 just before he was to be shipped off from the hulks in Portsmouth to Tasmania.

Subsequently, 'convict' John and his family sailed free to Melbourne, Victoria where John became a successful businessman (!).

I have much information from the NAS (copies of the precognition etc etc - far from cheap).

But I feel sure that the whole business must have been quite a scandal at the time and would be most grateful if anything could be found in the local newspapers.

JAP

 
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: thady on Sunday 17 June 07 16:00 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,

IRISH CIVIL MARRIAGE RECORDS LOOKUP REQUEST
Would you be able to look up the following Irish Marriage  for me please

Owen Ward and Mary O'Donnell
 Should be Registrars District of Dungloe, in Union of Glenties,  Donegal 1871-1874.  Owen's Residence should be Cloughglass.
I am particularly interested in Mary's Residence at time of marriage and her father's name.

Many thanks for your kind offer

Angela
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Genegenee on Tuesday 17 July 07 13:38 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,

You're generous offer is to good to resist lol!

Can you help me with my Grandfather's burial & / or inquest details or even newspaper details?

Alfred James HIBBARD died 10/02/1937 aged 41 yrs @ West Fife Hospital.  Alfred was a Marine Stoker and I assume he would have been from one of the ships docked at the time as is home was in Hampshire.

Thank you - appreciate your help.

Regards,

GG
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Tuesday 04 September 07 14:21 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer. Could you look up a couple of marriages if you get time please? I am looking for marriages for David McKenzie CAMPBELL after 1899 and his sister Jane mcKenzie CAMPBELL after 1900. They were born in Kettins Forfar.
I am also looking for a death for Charles mcKenzie at Alyth between 1850 and 1860. He was a chelsea pensioner in 1851 census. He was born in ALyth about 1781
 Many thanks. Pam :)
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Marty P on Sunday 18 November 07 22:15 GMT (UK)
Hello there,
wondered if you could help with where I am stuck.  Trying to identify great grandmother and rest of my ancestry from there.  Jane Kirkpatrick, mother to my Grandad, John "Jack" Kirkpatrick.  John was born 6 April 1912, Eastern District, Hospital Glasgow, Dennistown District.

Trying to identify his mother and so on....
Tried Scotsland people, with no luck yet. 
My big problem is that I lost John's birth cert, I am going off of my notes. 

Found an old post, here is a little more...

Looking for a lookup.  Jane Kirpatrick, domestic Servant, gave birth to my grandad, John Kirkpatrick April 6, 1912.  Jane gave address of Domicil, 18 Anderson Street, Springburn, Glasgow.  Dennistown District.  Sorry do not know her age. 


Martin Pinner, Los Angeles
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: netparsley on Friday 18 July 08 13:21 BST (UK)
Hi,
If you are still able to do look ups could you please look for the following people in the 1841 and 1851 census.

James Mitchel and Mary Mitchel (Hossack) from Penecuik.
They had children Elizabeth born 1813, Mary Show born 1815, Joan born 1817, Lydia born 1819 Jamima born 1822, Thomas born 1823 and Robina born 1826.

My line descends through Robina Mitchel who married Patrick Murphy in 1841 Glasgow Scotland. Could you check for their marriage?

I would be grateful for any help,
Regards,
Annette from Australia
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: piccarso on Friday 10 October 08 18:33 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,

Just noticed you have access to Irish Marriages, could you do a lookup for me please? I'm looking for a Marriage in 1845 or thereabouts between these two persons:

JAMES HENRY/HENDRIE/ HENDRY, BORN C1821-3.

AND

AGNES GREEN, DOB UNKNOWN.

I haven't a clue as to POBs, only a reference in a 1874 Death Record of James Hendrie with Agnes Green as his first wife, James is recorded as a "Widower" in an 1851 Census here in Ayrshire, Scotland, with a son Thomas born 1845, so I'm hoping there may be a Marr/Cert for this year.

Thank you in advance for taking the trouble to help me,

Slainte!

Jim.
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: netparsley on Saturday 11 October 08 09:20 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer,
Could you please look for the following people in the 1841 and 1851 census.

James Mitchel and Mary Mitchel (Hossack) from Penecuik.
They had children Elizabeth born 1813, Mary Show born 1815, Joan born 1817, Lydia born 1819 Jamima born 1822, Thomas born 1823 and Robina born 1826.

My line descends through Robina Mitchel who married Patrick Murphy in 1841 Glasgow Scotland. Could you check for their marriage?

I would be grateful for any help,
Regards,
Annette from Australia
Title: Re: Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Talia on Friday 28 August 09 11:23 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer, I noted in your kind offer to do lookups that you have Irish Marriages, and was wondering if you have any marriages for the County Tyrone area.  If so, and your offer is still open could you have a look to see if you have a marriage for Patrick Grimley to Teresa Fernan/Fearon/Farren on 6th Feb 1883 in Donaghmore, Co.Tyrone.

Many thanks
Talia
Title: Re:Fife Scotland LDS Center and Library
Post by: Laufi on Wednesday 05 September 12 01:50 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone

I am very new to this so am not sure that I am posting correctly.  I would like to make contact with Jo3 regarding the post below regarding John Pitblade.  The post is dated 2004 - any suggestions how I might have some success in following up?

Kind regards
Laufi

Hi
Thank you for your look-up offer.  I know it takes a lot of time, as I do a little myself but I find it very rewarding.  have had a problem for some time now as my ancestor appears to have been born in Fifeshire about 1729 according to his obituary in the local paper.  His name was John Pitblade or Pitbladdy or Pladdy (Pronunciation has produced many variations and he was a gardener at Millom Castle - his first child in Cumberland was down as Andrew Peart Bloddy!)  This child was baptised 27 December 1861 in Millom, to John and Jane, but Jane was also known as Jenny Pladdy - again quoted from her obituary, though her age wasn't given.  The nearest to age in the IGI baptisms for a John Pitblade is 1725 and I know that some are not on the IGI and that the ages do not always tally.  If you have time could you check any BT's for this.   Thank you
Jo3