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Title: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: Tiggersmum on Tuesday 06 April 10 17:22 BST (UK)

 :D  I am seeking any information about Frederick Chinnery 1866 Brentwood Essex UK, his wife Lanowlee 1863 Jersey and their children Lanowlee  1888 Magill, South Australia, Mabel 1891 Magill, Arthur 1897 Magill and Herbert 1899 Magill.  They obviously left Australia around this time as their next child was born in Jersey.   I am very curious as to what they were doing in Australia and would welcome any help.
Regards to all
Tigger

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 21:30 BST (UK)

Hi Tigger,

Not sure about this entry as they had a child in Jersey in 1900 and appear in the 1901 census for Jersey

1903 Directory

CHINNERY Frederick, Murray Park, Magill
CHINNERY Thos. Murray Park, Magill

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 21:43 BST (UK)

Births in SA to Thomas CHINNERY and Lanowlee BROWN

Thomas Charles 22 Nov 1880 Hindmarsh Dist Hin 250 33 (Mother listed as Lanowlee Helsey BROWN)
Lanowlee Mary 16 Jul 1882 Hindmarsh Dist Hin 287 354
Archibald George 27 Jul 1884 Magill Dist Nor 332 39
Alexander Bert 1 Oct 1886 Magill Dist Nor 382 79

Births in SA to Frederick Arthur CHINNERY and Lanowlee Hilsley BROWN

Arthur Guy 5 Nov 1896 Magill Dist Nor 593 308
Herbert Alfred 7 Apr 1898 Magill Dist Nor 619 354 (mother listed as Lanowlee Hillsey Theresa formerly BROWN nee CHINNERY

and this one

CHINERY Mabel Annie 2 Apr 1891 Adelaide Dist Ade Symbol X 476 222 parents John ROWE and Lanolee CHINERY nee BROWN (second registration lists Mabel Annie Chinery ROWE)

So what a complicated family you are following.

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 21:48 BST (UK)

There was only one Marriage

CHINNERY Thomas 21 single father Thomas CHINNERY = BROWN Lanowlee Hillsey 19 single father Charles James BROWN 7 Oct 1879 Christ Church North Adelaide Dist Ade 121 71

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 22:02 BST (UK)

Lanowlee H BROWN arrived at Pt Adelaide aboard the HESPERUS arriving 24 Oct 1878

other Browns on board

Abraham, Francis, Emma, Emily, Sarah A, Mary E, John, and William

I would need to visit the library to see if they were all the one family and get ages occupations etc from the passenger list.

Thomas CHINNERY arrived Pt Adelaide aboard the SALISBURY arriving 8 Jan 1879

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 22:24 BST (UK)

Looks like they did return to SA

CHINNERY Thomas Charles 23 single father Thomas Charles CHINNERY = FRASER Bertha May 23 single father Alexander FRASER 2 Feb 1904 Res of Alex Fraser Stepney Dist Nor 218/407

CHINNERY Archibald George 24 single father Thomas Charles CHINNERY = COCKER Melinda Myrtle 25 single father John Selby COCKER 6 Jan 1909 St Ignatius Church Norwood Dist Nor 238/32

CHINNERY Alexander Bert 32 single father Thomas Charles CHINNERY = WRIGHT Effie Isabel 21 single father Ernest George WRIGHT 11 Oct 1919 Wesley Church Norwood Dist Nor 281/367

Archibald's marriage announcement

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5170426?searchTerm=%22chinnery%22

Thomas Charles, Archibald George and Arthur Guy all had family in SA by 1928

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 22:36 BST (UK)

and Frederick's children

CHINNERY Arthur Guy 26 single father Frederick Arthur CHINNERY = WALKER Beatrice 25 single father George WALKER 23 Dec 1922 Methodist Church Archer St North Adelaide Dist Ade Symbol S 293/911

CHINNERY Herbert Alfred 24 single father Frederick Arthur CHINNERY = WALKER Beatrice May 23 single father Thomas WALKER 23 Dec 1922 Methodist Church Archer St North Adelaide Dist Ade 293/912

and a second for Herbert

CHINNERY Herbert Alfred 39 Widow father Frederick Arthur CHINNERY = NAYDA Amy Dulcie single father John Henry NAYDA 2 Oct 1937 Maughan Church Vestry Adelaide Dist Ade 381/3816

CHINNERY Albert Edward Lionel 25 single father Frederick Arthur CHINNERY = FORD Mabel Harriett 24 single father William FORD 3 Apr 1926 St Lukes Church Adelaide Dist Ade 307/20

CHINNERY Cyril Raymond 27 single father Frederick Arthur CHINNERY = JACKSON Dora 25 single father Thomas Andrew JACKSON 15 Mar 1930 Baptist Church Knightsbridge Dist Nor Symbol S 322/719

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 22:44 BST (UK)

also the girls

Thomas' daughter EDIT sorry this would be the daughter of Thomas Jun.

SHIRLEY Lawrence Henry George 31 single father Henry Edmund SHIRLEY = CHINNERY Grace Llanowlee 31 single father Thomas Charles CHINNERY 18 Dec 1935 Methodist Parsonage South Tc Adelaide Dist Ade 362/4490

and Frederick' daughter

WALKER Ernest Thomas 22 single father Thomas WALKER = CHINNERY Dorothy Alice 21 single father Frederick Arthur CHINNERY 20 Feb 1925 [unrecorded] Heywards Hill Dist Wel 302/528

and finally we see

CHINNERY Frederick Arthur 57 single father Thomas CHINNERY = CHINNERY Lanowlee Hillsley Theresa 66 widow father Charles James BROWN Methodist Church Glanville Dist PtA 307/1176

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: ennael on Tuesday 06 April 10 22:49 BST (UK)

www.naa.gov.au
has many entries for this family.
a cursory search shows that Cyril and Albert Edward were born in Jersey and Guernsey.

Leanne

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: ennael on Tuesday 06 April 10 22:51 BST (UK)

http://www.saghs.org.au/cgi-bin/sadeaths/db_search.cgi

Has an entry for Lanowlee CHINNERY,
There are many other family members listed here as well.
A look-up service is provided by the website.


There are a few (10) family members buried here:
http://www.centennialpark.org/burial_memorial_search/default.asp

Leanne

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 23:14 BST (UK)

CHINNERY Lanowlee Hillsey died 4 Aug 1936 Burnside Dist Nor 583 3302. She was aged 77 married residence Burnside relative Frederick Arthur CHINNERY husband.

CHINNERY Frederick Arthur died 6 Jan 1943 hospital Adelaide Dist Ade 659 213. He was aged 72 married, residence Burnside. No relative recorded.

MI's Magill Methodist

   In Loving Memory
           of
  Thomas CHINNERY
   died 25 Mar 1887
     aged 30 years

Forever with the Lord

             also

       Lanowlee (Nan)
    Deeply loved wife of
  F A CHINNERY Burnside
      Died 4 Aug 1936
        aged 77 years

This is a book style at botton of other stone

       In Loving Memory   
               of Dad                       
        Frederick Arthur
           CHINNERY
      died 6 Jan 1943
       aged 72 years

other side of book


       Dorothy Alice
          WALKER
      Died 6 Jul 1984
       aged 80 years
            Wife of
       Ernest Thomas
        WALKER (AIF)
died Sandakan Borneo 1945
       and daughter of
         F A CHINNERY
         Rest in Peace

also some of sons buried there

This looks like Thomas' death although dates differ by a year less a week  :-\

CHINNERY Thomas died 18 Mar 1888 Magill Dist Nor 169 382. He was aged 30 years status, relative not recorded. Residence Magill

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 06 April 10 23:57 BST (UK)

Departed London 1 Nov 1919 aboard the ORVIETO

They were ticketed to Adelaide, country of last permanent residence British Possessions, intended permanent residence in Australia

CHINNERY Mrs L H T 54 Housewife
CHINNERY Miss D A 15 Shop assistant
CHINNERY Mr F A 48 Accountant
CHINNERY Mr A G 22 Clerk
CHINNERY Mr H A 21 Clerk
CHINNERY Mr A E L 18 School Teacher
CHINNERY Mr C R 16 Clerk

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 07 April 10 00:19 BST (UK)

Civil Record of SA 1936

COUNCILLOR ARCHIBALD GEORGE
            CHINNERY, J.P.
(District Council of Campbelltown.)

Born at Magill, 7th August, 1884, and educated at Magill Public School and the School of Mines, Adelaide. Mr. Chinnerv has served in the Campbelltown Council for 7 years, and has been a resident of the district all his life. He is a justice of the Peace for South Australia , and is in business as a Vigneron . His sports are football and cricket . Home address , Central Avenue, Magill.

COUNCILLOR THOMAS CHARLES
           CHINNERY, J.P.
(Corporation of Port Augusta.)

Born at Hindmarsh, 22nd November, 1880, and educated at Magill Public School. Mr. Chinnerv has served for 1 year in the Port Augusta Corporation, and previously was 44 years Mayor of Port Augusta West, and also two years Councillor. He has been 21 years a resident of the district. Occupation, Conductor and Goods Checker. Commonwealth Railways. A member of the Ancient Order of Foresters' Lodge, and hissports are cricket and football. He is ex-President of the Port Augusta Football Association and President of
Section. Present address, Port Augusta.

1924 Directory Pt Augusta

Pt Augusta West
Mayor - Thomas C CHINNERY

Chinnery A. B., strmn, Manchester at, Mile End South
Chinnery A. G., clerk, Chisholm av, Burnside
Chinnery F. A., acctnt, Wongulla
Chinnery Herbt, crpntr, Wongulla
Chinnery Thos. C., conductor, Port Augusta
Chinnery Walter, theatre emp, 74a West ter

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: ennael on Wednesday 07 April 10 00:23 BST (UK)

memorial for Ernest Thomas WALKER.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/certificate.aspx?casualty=2144286

Leanne

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 07 April 10 00:47 BST (UK)

MI Port Augusta Westside

Book Style

Across the top

On Loving Memory of

left side

          Bertha
     Beloved wife of
       T CHINNERY
and mother of Grace & Alex
     Died 31 Dec 1952
       aged 71 years
    Ever Remembered

Right Side

      Thomas Charles
    Beloved husband of
         B CHINNERY
and father of Grace and Alex
     Died 24 March 1965
        aged 84 years
      Ever Remembered

MI Magill Methodist

Book Style

across top

In Loving Memory of

left side

      Alexander Bert
    Loved husband of
      Effie CHINNERY
    died Jun 16 1945
     in his 59th year
The Lord is my Shepherd

right side

         Effie
    Loved wife of
Alexander CHINNERY
  died 20 Aug 1992
   in her 95th year
   I Shall not Want

and this one
              CHINNERY
               Archibald
Dearly Loved Husband of Me__nda
             1884-1945


            airmans insignia
       LAVINGTON E J F [JOHN]
                     ?
  Killed in Air Operations Europe
               1911-1944

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 07 April 10 01:04 BST (UK)

There is a digital record of Lavingtons service

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.asp?B=1065559&I=1&SE=1

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2255040

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 07 April 10 01:24 BST (UK)

Entries from BISA (Biographical Index of South Australians 1836- 1885) -This was compiled using many sources including submitted information so not always 100% correct but none the less a great help with SA research.



CHINNERY Charles occupation Mariner residence Adelaide relogion C/E
married 18 July 1841 Adelaide SA Maria nee WARNER whose parents were Ed and Harriet nee WOOLER She was born about 1824 Alfriston Sussex arrived 1840 aboard the ELIZA children Rosina 1842, Emma 1844-1844, Henry  1846-1847, Thos 1847-1887

CHINNERY Fredk Arthur born  about 1871 SA? died 6 Jan 1943
buried Magill SA residence Burnside
married Mrs Lanowlee Hillsey (Nan) CHINNERY nee BROWN who was born about 1859 and died 4 Aug 1936

CHINNERY Thomas parents Chas and Maria nee WARNER born about 1847 SA died 23 Mar 1887 buried Magill SA
married 7 Oct 1879 Nth Adelaide SA Lanowlee Hillsey (Nan) nee BROWN born about 1859 Remarried FA CHINNERY

CHINNERY Thomas born about 1859 ENG arrived 1879 aboard the  SALISBURY occupation Agricultural Labourer religion RC

CHINNERY Thomas arrived by 1884 occupation Gardener
residence Finchley, Magill religion C/E
married Honora children Archibald Geo 1884, Alexr Bert 1886

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 07 April 10 01:56 BST (UK)

I could give you a bit more information on Charles and Maria but I do not see a son Thomas born to them in SA (only Emma and Henry who both died young) listed to this couple after civil registration began) I also see no deaths for them in SA. - besides that at marriage Thomas listed his father as Thomas so I feel this is probably not correct and someone may have made a wrong assumption that Thomas was their son.

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: Tiggersmum on Wednesday 07 April 10 11:09 BST (UK)

Oh wow, I didn't expect any info like this  :o  Thank you so very much for your time and trouble krisesjoint, it really is appreciated and has given me so much help with this family.  I shall now spend a couple of hours digesting it all.  Once again very many thanks. ;D
Regards
Tigger

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: Tiggersmum on Wednesday 07 April 10 13:54 BST (UK)

Oh Kris, as you say what a complicated family  ???  Just one last favour if I may?  It could be that I am in such a muddle trying to piece together this family that I have missed it, but although you kindly gave me details of the marriage for Frederick Arthur and Lanlowlee Chinnery, nee Brown there wasn't a date - did you make a note of it or wasn't one given.
Regards
Tigger

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 07 April 10 20:52 BST (UK)

Oops sorry Tigger, I seem to have a habit of omitting marriage dates.  :-[

28 June 1926.

Yes certainly a complex family but a good one to have caught on depending which child you are interested in, you could well have had the wrong father particularly as all are CHINNERY.

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866
Post by: Tiggersmum on Thursday 08 April 10 13:44 BST (UK)

Thanks very much Kris for the marriage date.   I believe I have sorted them out but have left myself with the problem of trying to prove or otherwise any relationship between Frederick and Thomas Chinnery, but this family is at least keeping me out of mischief  ;D

The daughter I am most interested in is Lanowlee Mary who married a James Quick in 1910, possibly in the Channel Islands, and I don't believe they went to Australia, but cannot confirm this as yet so I have many hours ahead of me one way or the other.   I did have her father incorrectly - had him as Fred but it would appear to have been Thomas if I am reading your info correctly.  Anyway once again for your wonderful help.
Regards
Tigger

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 19 April 10 06:38 BST (UK)

Hi Tigger,

Took a look at immigration today.

Very little information.

Thomas CHINNERY arrived 8 Jan 1879 aboard the SALISBURY. He was aged 20 years, English, an Ag Lab

Sorry Frederick was not listed in any index.

Lanowlee H BROWN arrived 24 Oct 1878 aboard the HESPERUS. She was aged 16, English a domestic servant brought out by "Mr Taylor" going to Mrs Manvil at Kooringa .

Listed under her was Emily BROWN aged 20 also going to Mrs Manvil. I cannot say if they were together. The Reg numbers are different Lanolee was 376 Emily was 511/659

Also on the ship were

Reg no 636

One listing as BROWN one as BOURNE

William 46 Mason
Sarah 48
Sarah A 10 brought out by "Mr Taylor" Reg no 636

Then Reg 636

BOURNE Robert 16 Mason
BOURNE Fredr 14 Mason brough out by "Mr Allen"

Reg 632

BROWN William 29 or 27 (two ages on different pages) Pick and Shovel Lab
BROWN Emma 34 I think they were "Mr Taylor" also

Reg 633

BROWN John 24 Pick and Shovel Lab brought out by "Thomas Bell"

Reg 558/672

BROWN Francis 18 Masons Lab brought out by "Thomas Bell"

Reg 333/668

BROWN Abraham 22 Farm Lab
BROWN Sarah 23
BROWN Mary E Infant

All were listed as English but alas no real clues if any were likely connected to Lanowlee, certainly none with the same reg no.

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: Tiggersmum on Tuesday 20 April 10 14:41 BST (UK)

Thanks Kris.  This family is proving to be a right pain :P  Your help is very much appreciated.
Regards
Tigger

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: Sarnia on Sunday 06 June 10 21:43 BST (UK)

Hallo I read Tiggersmum was looking for information on Lanowlee Mary Quick nee Chinnery, she was my grandmother, born in Adelaide 1882 died Guernsey 1971. I know very little about her Australian family. Tom was her eldest brother and there was Ray, Alec, Dolly, May, possibly a Herbert as this seems to be a strong family name? Her mother was Lanowlee Hillsey Brown.

Kind regards, Sarnia

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: Tiggersmum on Monday 07 June 10 15:54 BST (UK)

Good to hear from you Sarnia.   You will see how much information Krisesjoint was kind enough to provide on the Australian Chinnery family and no doubt this will be most useful to you.  I presume then that James William Quick was your grandfather?  I am hoping my research is correct  and that he was the son of my great uncle James Quick 1859 and Hannah Pavey 1860.  James 1859 tragically died on 31 12.1897 after being hit by a shunting engine in the sidings near the Devonshire Street crossing on the GWR, he was 39.  Does this tie in with you?   Are you on Genes?
Regards
Tigger

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: Sarnia on Monday 07 June 10 19:40 BST (UK)

Hallo Tigger,
 I know virtually nothing about James William Quick ,( mother Hannah Pavey )  my grandfather except he was the manager of the Great Western Railway Company in Guernsey, which seems ironic when I learn how is father died. He died very young as well aged 38 years old, June 6th 1926 at  The Town Hospital in Guernsey leaving Gran ( Lanowlee Mary ) with three teenagers. James 1910 the eldest, Dorothy  Hannah 1912  ( Mum ) and Herbert, who  died in his forties  in Stockport England, leaving Auntie Doll with six children to bring up. My knowledge of my family is very sketchy as I came sixteen years after my sister and fourteen years after my brother, so I was brought up in an aging family, now there is no one to ask.

No I am not on Genes. Your great uncle is my great grandfather!

Kind regards, Sarnia

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: Peverelle on Monday 02 August 10 01:11 BST (UK)

Hi
I am researching my partners history and he has a Lanowlee Hilsery (?) Brown born in Loughborough Leicestershire in 1879. Seems too much of a coincidence to not be inked somehow. Any ideas?? Mum Eliza, Dad George -listed in 1881 and 1891 uk census

Title: Re: Frederick CHINNERY 1866 Completed with thanks
Post by: Mark Chenery on Thursday 16 June 16 13:55 BST (UK)

I am related to this branch of the Chinnery family. Thomas Chinnery 1858/1888 & Frederick Arthur Chinnery 1871/1943, were brothers. Let me know if anyone wants more information.