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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: Tom Wylie on Tuesday 06 April 10 01:21 BST (UK)
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I am trying to trace the Family WYLIE who are recorded as living at Brake Plough, Stevenston in 1819. There may in fact have been TWO families called Wylie at the same location who may or may not be related.
Where is Brake Plough - today. Was it a farm or a street?
Tom Wylie
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hi Tom :)
on freeCEN there are 21 people listed at brEAKplough stevenston in 1841
including -
william wyllie 25 railway labourer born ayrshire
georgina wyllie 25 b. ayrshire
no other wyllie's
going by the census it seems to be located between grange mains and foley.
mayfield and seabank house(now auchenharvie academy ?) are also in the area
john wylie(weaver) , helen biggart , and 7 children at breakplough 1819/1822
this might be them in 1841(freeCEN)
(townhead street ?) stevenston ayrshire
john willie 60 cotton handloom weaver b. ayrshire
helen willie 60 pirn winder b. ayrshire
john willie 5 b. ayrshire(grandson ?)
ev
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Hello Tom,
If you are talking about John Wylie, his wife Helen Biggart or Beggart, their children and the widow Wylie, ie Elizabeth Blair.
I am quite sure the Elizabeth Blair, is in fact John Wylie's, widowed Mother.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Jonn :)
i have added to my first post
i agree about elizabeth
ev
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Is it not Elizabeth BAIRD??
Is there anybody on this group actively researching the WYLIE families concerned, I'd like to exchange notes.
I'm trying to tie up this family (or some of them) with my Great Great Great Grandfather Thomas WYLIE who was married in Glasgow in 1817 and was a policeman. His son WILSON WYLIE moved to Drakemyre Hamlet just outside Dalty where he brought up his family. Perhaps by moving from Glasgow back to Ayrshire - he was going back to his roots.
Unfortunately few of the names from the Stevenston families seem to be MY Wylie family names, but I'm trying to establish if there is a link.
MY Wylie family have roots in Dalry and Saltcoats
Regards
Tom Wylie
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Hello Tom,
Yes your correct it should have read Elizabeth Baird.
I also dont find a Thomas Wylie, connected to this particular Wylie Family.
Regards,
Jonn.
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John
Are you or have you conducted research on this particular family??
Tom
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Hello Tom,
Yes i have done a bit of research on this family.
John Wylie, married Helen Beggart, 16/06/1804, Stevenston, Ayr.
They did not have a son Thomas.
John Wylie's, parents were Matthew Wylie, married to Elizabeth Baird, on 29/July/1769.
This couple had also seven children all born Stevenston, Ayr, again there was no Thomas.
Wylie/Wyllie, is a popular name in Ayrshire, in 1851 there were 976 people of those names.
Regards,
Jonn.
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can you email me direct on
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Hello Tom,
I sent a email to your address.
By the way i dont think this site is keen on people putting their private email address on view, think it best you remove it.
Regards,
Jonn.
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noted but I couldn't figure a way of contacting you direct. I have replied to your email.
Regards
Tom
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Hello Tom ,
Brake plough was a collection of cottages in an area known as Kerlaw in Stevenston, if I mind right you could walk through it to Sinclair street.
Thanks for reminding me of it . If you send me a pm I can inform you of a site that may have a few images of it .
Regards Brosie.
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I believe I am a direct descendent of Matthew Wylie and Elizabeth Baird. Tom isn't a common name in our branch of the family. Lots of Matthew, William, Hugh, James, Janet, Elizabeth, Mary. I'm also doing some research into my family which I believe were in Stevenston in the mid to late 1700s, then Saltcoats, then Ardrossan. My branch eventually moved to Glasgow around 1900 and then to Dundee around 1920.
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Refer.
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/ayrshire-os-name-books-1855-1857/ayrshire-volume-57/14 Sheet XVI.2, Trace 6, Parish of Stevenston, County of Ayr states, in part:
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These cottages are on the south side of (1 word unreadable) burn and are occupied by the servants of Gavan (sic) Fullerton, who is the proprietor. Some of the occupiers (1 word unreadable) and call these cottages "Brockleheugh" but no satisfactory explanation can be obtained in support of the name".
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Here are Brakplough and Brakplough Cottages on the 1856(1855) 25 inch OS map. The burn is Quarrelburn (see name of quarry to the NW)
https://maps.nls.uk/view/74937980#zoom=6&lat=1860&lon=15196&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/74937980#zoom=6&lat=1860&lon=15196&layers=BT)
And here is the same area on the 1896 (1895) map with Quarrel Burn labelled.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/82867014#zoom=5&lat=2418&lon=14067&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/82867014#zoom=5&lat=2418&lon=14067&layers=BT)
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An article in The Ardrossan and Salcoats Herald 6/2/1864 reports on the Ardrossan Farmers' Society Ploughing Match:
Through the great liberality of Gavin Fullarton Esq., the match was again held in the field called "Baillie's Park", on the farm of Breakplough.
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If you scroll down a bit from the handwritten listing, you'll see that the transcriber has read the first unreadable word as Quarrelburn and the second as pronounce, giving the full transcription as, "These Cottages are on the South Side of Quarrelburn and are occupied by the Servants of Gavan Fullarton Esqr who is the proprietor. -
Some of the occupiers pronounce and Call these Cottages Brackleheugh but no satisfactory information can be obtained in support of the name. -"
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Oh well…
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From Special Report on the Mineral Resources of Great Britain by the Geological Survey of Great Britain, 1915 p 50
The topic is The Iron ores of Scotland, Area 2 (Main Outcrop from Saltcoats to Kilmarnock), and includes a list of localities where analysis has been made of the outcrop.
(1) Brackleheugh (Breakplough).
One-in. Sheet 22; 6-in. Ayr, 16 N.W.
A good section is exposed on the sides of the Brackleheugh Burn, 1/4 mile N. of Stevenston, near Kerelaw Mains...
Looking again at various maps I think this Brackleheugh Burn must be the same as the Quarrel Burn.
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For Brackleheugh I found this, from The Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald, Friday May 11, 1900 p2. An extract from Stevenston – Past and Present by A.M.M.
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A postcard of Brackleheugh. The cottage furthest from the camera on the left is still there and can be seen on streetview. This view is looking east from Brackleheugh across the bridge over Quarrel Burn towards Kerelaw Road.
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As a boy, resident in Saltcoats, my father and I would walk up Dalry Road, turn right towards "Middlepart Farm" and continue along the back roads to Kerelaw. I recall the old abandoned house with a large portico (?) out front and upon entering a large staircase directly in front of you. I also recall a very large chestnut tree at the back of the house.
Thanks to those who contributed to jog my 75-year old memory.