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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: MUMMYG on Friday 02 April 10 12:12 BST (UK)
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Is it true that their MI's are in the church?
If so in what form and how would one get to see them ?
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MummyG.
You could try contacting them, Here is the link for their website:
http://www.st-luke.org.uk/
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I`m 4 miles away...and go to Widnes every wednesday so that my wife can shop in the market....I WILL GLADLY RATHER GO TO St Lukes than shop.....just let me know......allan :D :D
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:D You do sound rather desperate, well Ill take pity on you,
Youll know who I am when you read this, Im still trying to track down the grave of two of my people namely
David Boast of Alfred Road Widnes who died on 5th July 1883 age 46 and his son Walter William Boast who died in 1891 aged 15
I have looked at Birchfield Rd and St Marys has been checked, the registrar seems to think they may be here, the only other place would be St Pauls? but not sure with the dates as David died just as it was finished. If you find it I will make a trip to visit. Im not too far away but its difficult for me to get away.
I would very much appreciate a look up if its not too difficult for you, with a view to keeping you entertained and out of the shops of course. ;) :)
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Thanks Pegasuss for the phone no (sorry saw your post too late) I will try it if there is need.
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Try this Mummy
http://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/Widnes/Widnes%20Welcome.htm
01514242753 139 coroners lane Widnes Cheshire.....this is the contact for St Lukes
good luck....allan
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Have tried emailing them Allan weeks ago but got no reply. ???
Will try the phone for St Lukes then. Thanks
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Some time ago I was searching for a relative buried at Farnworth. I sent a letter to the Churchwarden
Mr M Dodd,via the vicarage address,enclosing a stamped addressed envelope.
Within the week he did send a reply with the information requested.
Nothing to lose in trying this method of enquiry. However it did not work when I wrote to the Parish Church in Garston.
Geoff W
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Hiya Geoff...if it was to St Michaels in Garston, it currently has no Vicar and hasn`t for about 8 months....I`m not sure whether a stand in is allowed to disclose Parish Records....I live in Garston, and if I can help let me know....allan :)
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Thanks all,
Ill try to find some time to visit today in case the church is open, if not I will try your suggestions as the place seems too big to search on foot.
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Emailed St Lukes churchwardens as suggested, they say they cant find them but their records are only taken from actual head stones, they suggest I contact Cheshire record office as they have the old records for the church, have just done that and await a reply although they wont be able to tell me exactly where the grave is at least Ill know if they are there.
A reply from Widnes fhs said that David was there but no further info was forthcoming?
There are two threads going along this line now, Im sorry about that, will only update the other one 'find a grave in Widnes' from now on. Thanks for all help.
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Evening MummyG, whilst doing some research on one of my Widnes WW2 casualties who served with the South Lancs, I have come across a reference in September 1939 to a Captain Boast M.C..
We already know that both brothers where awarded the Military Cross in WW2, and that one of the brothers was killed, so I assume that the reference is to the 2nd Brother.
The reference is in the War Diary for 1940, and states that Capt Boast M.C. (Note three men with the surname Boast where awarded the M.C. serving with the South Lancs. was 2 i/c with C Company 1st South Lancs at the time that it mobilised for France and Belgium.
The war diary, then mentions him again being in France in early October 1939, and is later listed as capt S.W.Boast, who when awarded the M.C. was a 2nd Lt. By early 1940 he has been promoted to Battalion major.
On the 18th Feb 1940 - 25th Feb 1940, he is shown as being on Leave in the UK, but by 10th March he is no longer listed in the Officers Nominal role, as on the 9th March 1940 he was appointed as Camp Commandant ROXA, which I assume was a POW Camp.
Do you know if this is one of your Boast's
phil
Nb. The 3rd Boast to win the MC, was Maj. Sydney Thomas Boast, M.C., D.C.M., (2nd Bn. South Lancashire Regt.), whose own son Frederick, was died in 1919 after returning to the UK after fighting on the Western Front.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=899832
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Yes he is one of mine, well my husbands actually, he is the brother of Frederick. His father was Major Sydney Thomas Boast (whos brother was Captain John Samuel Boast, killed in France 1918)
SW Boast was born 1894 in Cork, died 1961 in St Helens, he died of damage to his kidneys a short while after being knocked over by a wagon in the town centre, very sad after surviving two wars hey. He was 2nd SLR Corporal, 2nd Lieutenant and acting Captain 1914-1920 and his Regtl no was 9270 long number P,21172 changing to 153790, I have his copy of the SLR Regimental History (ICH DIEN) and the family has all his medals.
I havnt researched him much as I was working backwards from his grandfather who was 95th Regiment in Crimea and India and have been taking a break and doing some research on my own family. What a family though, fascinating, Im reading an interesting book at the moment about women who travelled with the regiments so I can find out what it was like for the wives.
Thanks very much for this information Phil, its something I didnt know and is much appreciated.
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The MIs are indeed in typed form within the church itself. They were transposed by the parish clerk some years ago. Apparently, the best time to visit to check them is open church, late on Wednesday mornings.
I no longer live anywhere near Widnes, so cannot help myself.
Good luck
John
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Thanks for your input John, good to know
Gill
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I'm hoping someone could see if a memorial stone exists in the churchyard for an ancestor and take a photo of it. The ancestor's name was Peter Robinson (b: circa 1760-d: March 7, 1816). He was likely buried at St. Luke's (source: March 9, 1816 Farnworth burial record). Peter was a steward and farmer for Miss Anna Maria Bold of Bold Hall. He lived at the "Old Hall" (also known as "Bold Hall Farm"). I understand that there is a monumental inscription book for St. Luke's, but I haven't been able to locate it. I've sent e-mails to St Luke's and to the Widnes Library, but I haven't received any replies yet. If someone is willing to walk through the churchyard and look for "Peter Robinson" or "Robinson of Bold" that would be wonderful. I'm trying to put together the Robinson family tree.
Peter Robinson: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=151250981 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=151250981)
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Good evening Randers,
I visit Farnworth Church (St Lukes) about once a month, the problem with the churchyard is that it is very overgrown,it is one that does not come under the local council so any cutting back is done by volunteers and they cant keep up with it. Will see what I can find on my next visit.
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hi jangeo,
Thanks for your offer to help!
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I heard from the Widnes Library today. They have a booklet called "The gravestone inscriptions on St Luke's Church Farnworth Widnes". Unfortunately they could not find my ancestor (Peter Robinson), but they also said the church itself carries a more extensive copy. I think I'll try sending a letter to St. Luke's through the post office since they haven't replied to my e-mail.
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http://www.st-luke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2015september.pdf
Due to the shake up of the clergy in the Widnes area there is no one Vicar to a Church it is split with other Churches. If you follow the above link it will give you the parish magazine, there you will find the Vergers name and address write to him he has access to the possible information you want. I am not telling you how to suck lollipops but enclose a SAE, it worked for me.
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Thanks for the link jangeo!
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Thanks jangeo (y)
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Hi again Jangeo,
I heard from St Lukes! There is indeed a large flat memorial stone for some Robinson relatives (which might include an ancestor or two). The transcription of it isn't complete, so next week the church will have their Verger cut the grass and uncover the Robinson stone. It's located three rows away from the main nave window (Plot 8, Grave 49). They are also willing to take a picture for me.
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Good Morning Randers,
thanks for the update, glad it had a result
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If there is any photographer volunteer near St. Luke's Churchyard in Farnworth a photo of my Robinson ancestors' grave would be much appreciated. I haven't had any luck with help at Findagrave.com. The churchyard was finally cleared of brambles, so all of the greavestones are visible. THe Robinson gravestone is apparently a flat sandstone memorial located three rows back outside the main nave window (Grave No. 80049; Plot 8, Grave 49). Here is a Findagrave.com link to my 5th great-grandfather, Peter Robinson (1760-1816):
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=151250981