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Title: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: nong43 on Wednesday 31 March 10 14:07 BST (UK)
Hello folks

I was wondering if anybody could do a couple of baptism lookups for me:

1. George HARVEY.

George was born, as far as I know, in or very close to Wycombe, some time between 1835 and 1842. On 27 September 1858, he married an Elizabeth Austin at Holy Trinity, Hazlemere. The marriage certificate gives no father's name, implying he was illegitimate. A George Harvey appears on the 1851 census aged about 13, living with his grandmother. There is also a Susan Harvey living there, who may be his mother. Would anyone be able to look at the baptism records and see what (if anything) it says?

2. Edward LUNNON.

Based on the 1851 census, on which the person I assume is my Edward appears, he was born in about 1837 in Cores End. On this census he is living with an Elizabeth Lunnon, but no father is present. This contrasts with Edward's marriage certificate of 16 September 1868, which states his father as being either Abram, Aaron or Anson Lunnon (the registrar's handwriting is so bad that even the GRO indexes from the time record Edward's surname as "Lumm"). I've looked in the baptismal records for Hedsor and the surrounding parishes, but not found him. I'm not expecting anybody else to be able to find him either, but he's got to be there somewhere, so I have to ask.

Any help with these two would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Martin
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 31 March 10 16:07 BST (UK)
, but he's got to be there somewhere,

He might not have been christened.
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: jillruss on Wednesday 31 March 10 16:17 BST (UK)
I'd recommend a request to Bucks FHS for a couple of baptism name checks. If you look at their website, it's very reasonable and, if you pay online, very quick!

Jill
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: allisont on Wednesday 31 March 10 21:08 BST (UK)
IGI has a christening of a George Harvey 16/11/1845 Holy Trinity Hazelmere, mother Susan Harvey.
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: nong43 on Thursday 01 April 10 00:33 BST (UK)
Hi allisont

That sounds very plausible. I'm guessing there's no mention of a father? That'd add weight to the illegitimacy theory.

Martin
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Dette on Monday 15 July 19 02:20 BST (UK)
Hi Martin, I am doing some research into the Lunnon family for a friend who is trying to find her birth father.  I, too, am looking at Edward Lunnon.  Are you still looking for this family?  Dette Glenday (Brisbane Qld Australia)
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: nong43 on Tuesday 13 August 19 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi Martin, I am doing some research into the Lunnon family for a friend who is trying to find her birth father.  I, too, am looking at Edward Lunnon.  Are you still looking for this family?  Dette Glenday (Brisbane Qld Australia)

Hi Dette

Edward Lunnon is a rip-roaring pain in the backside.  ;)

His date of birth ranges between 1837 and 1847 depending on what document you look at, for a start, making it very hard to pin down anything about him, and the writing on his marriage certificate is so bad that even the indexes record it as "Lumm". It's also very hard to read his father's name; for a long time, I thought it was "Aaron", but when comparing the name to the other writing on it, it looks more like "Hurson". But what kind of name is that?!

So, I am still wanting to find out any more information about Edward, but not holding out a lot of hope...

Martin
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Dette on Thursday 15 August 19 00:40 BST (UK)
Hi Martin,

The Edward Lunnon I am looking at was born at Henley Oxfordshire sometime between 1831 and 1835.  He wife's name was Mary Ann Maynard (I haven't been able to find the actual marriage yet) and they had 5 children.  Edward died at the Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading in 1875.  I can only find him on the 1871 Census and not on the earlier ones but am still looking.  I think that the marriage of Edward Lumm that you mention in 1868 was to Rebecca Hobbs.  This would equate to the Edward you have in the 1851 Census as the marriage took place in Wooburn.  My Edward's surname may be spelt LONNON. 

Do you have any Lunnons in Berkshire, Oxfordshire or Buckinghamshire?

Remaining ever hopeful!!

Dette Glenday
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Maddie on Monday 19 August 19 13:07 BST (UK)
Hi
I'm not sure that this will be any help but here goes. I have an ancestor Susan Brown born 1798 in Wooburn who married in May 1818 Langley Marish to a Joseph Lunnon born 1799, presumably Wooburn as their twins were born there in Oct 1818. Joseph died in Dec 1818 in Wooburn & Susan went on to marry a George Beesley in 1823.

I believe Joseph was a son of Joseph & Rachel Lunnon who had a number of children in Wooburn including an Elizabeth born 1812. Elizabeth has an illegitimate daughter Sarah in 1830 with the father named as Henry Courtney, they don't appear to have married but there is a marriage for Elizabeth Lunnon to a James Holley in 1832. In the 1841 census, Piece54/Folio14/Page20  Wooburn is an Elizabeth Holley with children Sarah aged 10 & Edward aged 1 living next door to my Susan Beesley ex Lunnon nee Brown, no sign of James. I haven't been able to find Elizabeth Holley & her children in 1851 but there is a very similar family unit in your Elizabeth Lunnon with Sarah & Edward.??????  Strange thing is there is a burial record for Elizabeth Holley in Wooburn June 1858 aged 48.

I'm puzzled by James Holley as to who he was or what happened to him but one of the witnesses at his marriage to Elizabeth was a Lucy Holley. Unfortunately none of this really helps with your Edward as there doesn't appear to be any record of a birth or baptism for him anywhere.!!

Regards
Maddie
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 19 August 19 15:05 BST (UK)
Have you investigated this Birth Reg or brought the Cert?

LUNNON, -unnamed male, Mothrs mn    BROWN 
GRO Reference: 1838  M Quarter in THE WYCOMBE UNION  Volume 06  Page 402

Trish :)
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Dette on Tuesday 20 August 19 03:42 BST (UK)
Hi Maddie
Thank you for replying.  I am not sure where your info fits in but I do have a Joseph Lunnon born 1807 in Wooburn.  He is the son of John Lunnon and Agnes Gurney.  Is this of any help?
I don't think I am ever going to find anything out about Edward Lunnon other than what I have but I will keep trying.
Dette
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Maddie on Tuesday 20 August 19 14:47 BST (UK)
Hi Dette

With regard to your Edward born Henley there is a tree on Ancestry that does feature him with Mary Ann Maynard but his birth is 1822, parents John Lunnon & Hannah Bromley. This Edward is on all the previous census so is it plausible that his age at death is quite a few years out. :o  As he was aged 40 on the 1871 census something is wrong with his age still being 40 in 1875. :-\  I can't see a marriage for them but notice their eldest daughter Annie's birth was registered in 1866 as Annie Lonnon Maynard. Perhaps they didn't get round to marrying before Edward died.

Hope this helps & doesn't hinder :)
Maddie
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Dette on Wednesday 21 August 19 03:30 BST (UK)
Hi Maddie
No it doesn't hinder nor does it really help!  I think I might give up on trying to find out anything more about Edward Lunnon as he seems determined to remain a mystery!
Dette
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 21 August 19 12:19 BST (UK)
Does anyone have the Birth Cert I posted a few days ago?

Or noticed Mothers mn was Brown?

Trish :)
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Maddie on Wednesday 21 August 19 18:47 BST (UK)
Hi Trish

Unfortunately my Lunnon/Brown ancestry ended with the deaths of Joseph & Susan's children in the mid 1830s, daughter Mary in 1834 & son Henry in 1835. It is possible the male Lunnon birth reg you found may well be relevant to the OP Martin. I have tried looking for another Lunnon/Brown marriage but no luck so far. :-\

Maddie


 
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 22 August 19 11:14 BST (UK)
Sorry Maddie for the confusion.

Yes you are right I did mean that info for the original poster Martin.

He has been on line a few days ago but hasnt replied so thats why I posted again.


Trish :)
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: Maddie on Thursday 22 August 19 14:20 BST (UK)
No problem Trish.  :) :)

Maddie
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: nong43 on Thursday 05 September 19 21:31 BST (UK)
Have you investigated this Birth Reg or brought the Cert?

LUNNON, -unnamed male, Mothrs mn    BROWN 
GRO Reference: 1838  M Quarter in THE WYCOMBE UNION  Volume 06  Page 402

Trish :)

Thanks - I may look into this.

Martin
Title: Re: George HARVEY / Edward LUNNON
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 06 September 19 10:08 BST (UK)
Your welcome Martin :)