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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: chantelle_49 on Wednesday 31 March 10 13:23 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find information on Thomas EASTERBY born about 1816 in Kirkbymoorside. He was convicted of theft in 1847 and transported to Tasmania in 1852.
His convict records in 1852 state that he was informed of his wife's death and he is now a widower with 4 children. Any idea how I could find out what happened to those children? I've searched the the 1841 census with a possible match, however the wife in that family still appears in the 1861 census (although without a husband, but with 2 more children.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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his criminal past is on A* - assuming these are all him!!
2/1/1837 age 23 Lacerny imprisonment 4 months
9/4/1844 age 29 recieving stolen goods imprisonment 1 year
1910/1847 age 33 larceny transportation 14 years
Looking for census.
Diddy
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1851 census: greenwich,kent, Warrior Convict Hulk, woolwich dockyard.
T.Easterby age 33 married gunsmith convict born Kirby Moorside,Yorks
HO 107 /1588/506/4
Diddy
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1841:kirkby moorside
Mary Holroyd 50
Thomas Easterby 25 Gunsmith
Mary Ann 25
Elizabeth 7
Ann 6
Mary 1
is this the one you found as it does seem to fit?
Diddy
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death: Mary Ann Easterby mar 1846 helmsley 24/288
Diddy
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extracted marriage (from original record) on LDS:
Thomas Easterby = Mary Ann Holroyd
19/12/1833 Lastingham (4 miles NNE of KirkbyMoorside)
Diddy
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there is another Easterby -Richard married to a mary also from KirkbyM. i think the 1861 census you found (and me) as follows has both these families. - I suspect Richard might be Thomas brother.
Hutton Le Hole
Mary Holroyd 79 wid
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Mary Ann Easterby h wid 47
David 7
francis 7
Mary Gdu 3mths
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Elizabeth Easterby H unm 27
Thomas son 6
Harry 2
isabel 1
Diddy
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parent search on LDS has siblings in Kirkby Moorside:
Thomas Easterby 3/6/1813
Richard Easterby 2/10/1815
James 10/12/1817
Bessie 15/1/1821
all parents William & Elizabeth
Diddy
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1851 census:spilsby
Elizabeth Esterby 18 servant b. Hatton le Hole
living in household of Wilsons.
Diddy
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Ann Easterby:
1841 as given
!851: Living in Helmsley as servant
Ann Easterly age 16
HO 107/2372/387/11
marriage: Ann Easterby = either George Ellerker / Edward mercer dec 1855 Pickering 9d /748
OR dec 1854 Whitby 9d /?
I think Pickering more likely and you can look to 1861 to check which she married.
Diddy
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Mary Easterby:
1841 as given
1851 in KM with her grandmother Mary Holroyd. the mary (MA) given as Mary Holroyds daughter is i think Richards wife as previously stated.
Mary Holroyd 62
M A Easterby dau 34
Mary gdau 10-
Phoebe gdau 7
1861 servant in KM age 20
RG 9/3640/57/23
Marriage: mar 1871 Mary Easterby = John Green or George Thompson
Pickering 9d /541
Diddy
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will clock off now and let you sort that lot out!!
Diddy ;D
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Diddy you're a wonder! Thanks so much! I thought Holroyd fitted too well to be a coincidence.
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Hi Chantelle,
The baptism of Bessy Easterby 1821 Kirbymoorside says her father William Easterby was a gunsmith in Kirbymoorside. His parents were Christopher Easterby and Phoebe (I think Phoebe's maiden name was Rivis).
Bessy's mother Elizabeth was daughter of James and Ann Ray (Ann's maiden name I think was Conyers).
Lyn
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Hi Chantelle
I have worked out a detailed family tree, which I can message you privately if you want – it is too complicated and long to post here. Thomas Easterby is an ancestor of my wife.
Basically, his parents were William and Elizabeth (nee Kay according to IGI batch sources), and his g/parents Christopher and Phoebe (nee Rivas). He was christened in 1813. Siblings were Bessie, James (a shoemaker), and Richard (a whitesmith) who married Mary Leng. Richard and Mary almost certainly died in the mid-1850s. Their daughter, another Mary Ann must have died young, as she does not appear in the 1851 census when she would have been 4. Their son Christopher appears in the 1861 census as a cabinet maker living in Pickering with his wife Elizabeth.
Thomas married Mary Ann Holroyd and had four children (born between 1834 and 1844), Elizabeth, Ann, Mary, and Phoebe. Mary Ann seems to have survived until at least 1861, and to have conceived two more children, David and Francis (possibly twins as their births were registered together) without Thomas who must have been imprisoned on the Warrior since 1847, after which he was sent on the Fairlie to Tasmania in 1852.
The Elizabeth with three children living next to Mary Holroyd, Mary Ann’s mother, in the 1861 census is almost certainly the eldest daughter of Thomas and Mary Ann, and the baby Mary living with Mary Ann, who is clearly not a “widow” is the daughter of her daughter Mary, who had a live-in job as dairymaid at the “Dog & Duck” pub in Hutton-le-Hole. Mary later had two more children, Margaret Hannah and John William who was my wife’s ancestor. She later had further children after marrying George Thompson, an ironstone miner.
I believeThomas married Bridget Stanton in Hobart in 1854, and moved to Gunning NSW where he farmed until his death in 1890.
It seems to me that both Thomas and Mary separately decided to start new lives, with Mary describing herself as a widow, and Thomas marrying again in Tasmania.
Incidentally, in the 1841 census, Mary Holroyd is described as a farmer, and is living with Mary Ann, Thomas and their first three children. By 1851, she has become an ag lab, suggesting she sold land to raise money, or couldn’t afford to rent it any more. Her late husband, David, had been a blacksmith.
Cousin Jack
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his criminal past is on A* - assuming these are all him!!
2/1/1837 age 23 Lacerny imprisonment 4 months
9/4/1844 age 29 recieving stolen goods imprisonment 1 year
1910/1847 age 33 larceny transportation 14 years
Looking for census.
Diddy
Hi i have relative with i similar back ground sentances to life improsinment on prison ship, where can i go about finding this sort of informatiom for him? I am a subscriber on a******y is there anywhere on there?
thanks
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HI, info as to sentence / crime will be on there. put in ancestors details and click on immigration & travel.
Diddy
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Hi everyone,
Just to say a new member has posted some information relating to Thomas Easterby on the following thread :
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,592452.0.html
Pels.
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hello to all having an interest in thomas easterby,
marriage william easterby-elizabeth ray of kbm 1797
children all baptised at kbm
john 1798
ann 1799
phoebe 1801
william 1803
mary 1807
christopher 1809
george 1811
thomas 1813 x
richard 1815
james 1817
bessy 1821
william's father christopher married phoebe rivas at kbm 1771
children all baptised at kbm
william 1772x
elizabeth 1775
john 1777
jane 1779
ann 1781
christopher's father thomas married either mary prust or ann foxton in 1727 or 1733 unsure who???
children all baptised at kbm
elizabeth 1728
john 1730
thomas 1733
thomas 1737
william 1737
john 1740
george 1740
christopher 1743x
richard 1748
anne 1748
too many thomas's to work out who was who after this point.
can anyone help?
i have e mailed cousin jack but he has failed to reply.
i do have info on thomas easterby's life in australia and current living relatives if anyone is interested.
kind regards lesj