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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wicklow => Topic started by: ambyrne1 on Monday 29 March 10 13:37 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I have abscrated all of the Mills (Marriage, Death and Birth) from Rathdrum Parish CoI records. I have also taken most of the King names aswell.
If anyone would like me to look up a name (Mills or King) please post her.
Thanks
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Hi Ann Marie,
Do you have anything on Grace Mills. She married my great(5) grandfather Revd William Lynar Fawcett around 1790.
Ion
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Ion,
Bare with me a few days... i am at to mislaying these document.. I need to find them... i do remember a Grace Mills popping up..I think
Let me find these
Ann Marie
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Ann Marie,
Re Lynar v Mills Feb 15,1805 Lord Redesdale, Just wondering whether you have come across the attached court decision. Daniel Mills was the executor of Alexander Lynar's estate.
Regards
Ion
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Thanks Ion for this, i knew this was out there but I hadnt seen a copy of it.
I may have to take this topic off the dashboard as for the life of me i cannot find what i did with the records.... I have a funny feeling my partner has possibly torn this out.
I will try again tonight if not i will have to go back to RCB and get them again as my info was also in them.....
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Guys,
I now have these records again... So give me a shout if you need a lookup...
Happy times as Ion and myself are connected by GGGG Grandfathers/Grandmothers....
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Hi Ann Maria
I see you are interested in the names Mills and King in Wicklow. I have the following on Mills in Wicklow.
Henrietta Mills married Matthew Carroll don’t know when, but Children born in Wicklow were:
Louis born c 1854, Anne c 1864, and George c 1865. Are they helpful for your research?
Thomas King born April 1866 at Slackport Slyne Head, a Lighthouse Keeper in Wicklow, married
Mary Murphy and had children Leo, Matthew, Bernie, Joseph, Vincent and Kathleen. Do these names mean anything to you?
Julia
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I see you are interested in the names Mills and King in Wicklow. I have the following on Mills in Wicklow.
Henrietta Mills married Matthew Carroll don’t know when, but Children born in Wicklow were:
Louis born c 1854, Anne c 1864, and George c 1865.
Thomas King born April 1866 at Slackport Slyne Head, a Lighthouse Keeper in Wicklow, married
Mary Murphy and had children Leo, Matthew, Bernie, Joseph, Vincent and Kathleen. Do these names mean anything to you?
Julia
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Hi Julia,
Sorry I cannot find Henrietta anywhere in my family from Rathdrum. Also for Thomas King.
Will keep you in mind If i come across their names in my research.
Thanks
Ann Marie
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Hi Julia,
Unfortunatly I do not have any of your Mills recorded in my tree. My connection with the Mills family is around 1790 when Grace Mills married William Lynar Fawcett. Grace was born in Rathdrum as most likely her siblings, abt 9 or 10. Considering the time difference your Mills' may be connected a few generations down the track however I do not have any further information. Grace's parents were Daniel Mills and Elinor Goggin.
Best wishes
Ion
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I have a Mary Goggins marring a Richard Haughton c 1746 (marriage licence index) they had 7 Haughton children. Ring any bells.
Julia
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Hi Julia,
Mary Goggins and Richard Haughton ring no bells unfortunatly. I do not know if Goggin & Goggins are two different families or a spelling error. In my tree I have Ann Lynar the daughter of David Lynar marring John Goggin in 1761. I think John Goggin and Elinor Goggin were related possibly siblings. Sorry but I have not come across and Haughtons.
Cheers
Ion
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ION
Many thanks for your reply. Will keep on looking.
Julia
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Hi, I am descended from Rev. William Lynar Fawcett thru his daughter Eleanor who married Rev. John Exshaw in 1819. Was delighted to get Grace Mills name so can build up the other missing links in my family tree.
Ealar
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Hi Ealar,
Great to meet another distant cousin. Yes, I have John and Eleanor marring 9th Aug 1819. John was a rector in Bray probably St Paul's the old church on the main road down by the stream. They had heaps of kids 13 names I have. Eleanor's brother James also married an Exshaw, Elizabeth dau of the Hon John Exshaw twice Mayor of Dublin and Hannah La Graville. Hon John Exshaw had 3 different wives that I am aware of. The other two being Angel Wilkinson and Thomasine Hatfield. I think Thomasine was the mother of Revd John. I would love to chat further.
Regards
Ion
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Great to link up. Found a diary account of person who emigrated to Australia in 1855 on line yesterday and Rev. James Lynar was the chaplain -wonder if his first wife Elizabeth Exshaw had died at that stage. There is no mention of his wife or children's names but the account of the voyage is very interesting. I have a copy of the Exshaw tree from about 1670 - source is Charlton Shaw - but there are a lot of siblings missing - i also have a rough copy of Burkes Peerage which helps out with the missing bits.
This is like treasure hunting!
Ealar
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Hi Ealar,
Looks like we are distant cousins aswell. Grace Mills and my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Mills were brother and sister. My Family continued in the Mills side till my GG Grandmother Malvina Mills married William Wilson. So Welcome.. :)
Ann Marie
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Thank you Ann Marie,
Have been delighted to discover this rootschat and find people who are distant cousins and interested in the same people.
Will have some questions for you soon.
Ealar
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Hi,
My family of Mills are from the Derrylossary area of Wicklow, near Roundwood and Laragh. They were brothers Michael, Matthew, John, Joseph and Samuel and their father was John Mills b. 1789.
Do these names appear familiar to anyone?
Unfortunately, the parish records for Derrylossary were destroyed so I have no exact baptism dates for Johns' sons but they were born in the 1820's.
Regards,
Ann Marie
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Hi Ann Marie,
I hope you are well. I am very thankful for your earlier assistance. I know we have a connection through the Mills line and perhaps another connection through my 4th great grandparents Abraham Emerson Heatly/Heatley b 1772 d 1804 in co Wicklow who married Christina Byrne in 1790 at Derrylossary. One of their sons also Abraham Emerson Heatly/Heatley b 1798 d 1853 married Sophia Dorothea Heatley a cousin in 1824, my 3rd great grandparents.
Cheers
Ion
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Hi Ion,
This is a different Ann Marie. I see earlier posts by Ann Marie Byrne but I am a 'new' Ann Marie looking for a connection with any posts already made?
Thanks for getting in touch though and hopefully someone can see a connection with my family and theirs.
Regards,
Ann Marie
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Hi Ion, Ann Marie,
Sorry i am only seeing this post now. unfortunately i couldnt find any connection between Ann Marie's Mills and our Mills they dont seem to have the same names carried down through generations which usually links families. Maybe its a lot further back then we have records for.
Nice to talk again
Ams
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I hope I'm okay reply to this thread a decade later since it's the exact topic I'm curious about.
It's a long shot if anyone knows anything, but I'm trying to find more information on my 3rd-great grandfather William Mills, now that I've finally confirmed he is who I thought he was. He was tried in Wexford around February 1843 for theft from his employer and sentenced to 7 years transportation to Tasmania aboard the "Orator". Before the journey he was imprisoned in Kilmainham and was apparently only 15. He died in Hobart in 1893 and later in life his reported age bounces all over the place, either due to uncertainly, carelessness or attempting to hide his criminal past as some did. His early records around imprisonment and transport were fairly consistent, putting him as being born around late 1827 or so. The convict indent says his native place is Wicklow, and I believe from news articles he was arrested wandering around Newtown Mount Kennedy.
He was Protestant originally but he became Catholic in Tasmania and married twice; his first wife my 3rd-great grandmother was Catherine Dunn who died young, and his second wife was Mary Healey/Haley. The children he had with Catherine were four boys, in order of birth Edward, John, William and Walter. John was Catherine's father's name, so I'm inclined to think William's father's name was probably Edward. Also according to the indent William lists no parents but does list siblings: one brother John and four sisters Mary, Ann, Emma Maria and Betty. Emma and Maria are underlined together, so without commas I'm assuming that's a single name.
So why Rathdrum specifically?
For a start there seemed to be quite a few Mills protestants there, or at least where there's surviving records.
Additionally, William's eldest son Edward (my 2nd-g grandfather) married Charlotte Williams, a Tasmanian-born daughter of Thomas and Mary Williams (nee Williams). Thomas and Mary were also from Wicklow and migrated to Tasmania in 1854. Thomas Williams was the son of a James and Elizabeth (nee Williams) and was from somewhere called Streamstown at Newtown Mount Kennedy, being baptised at Newcastle parish in 1808. Mary Williams was the daughter of a Richard and Catherine (nee ???) from around the Stump of the Castle townland near Rathdrum where she was baptised in 1813. I think Mary's family maybe moved to the Glenealy parish which was where a younger brother was baptised and Thomas and Mary were married in 1839, the couple then living at Streamstown at NMK until they migrated. It all seems an awful coincidence that William Mills wouldn't have known this family in Wicklow but knew them while living in separate towns in Tasmania.
As a slight aside, Mary's sister Jane Williams married a James Campbell (occupation "police" or "police pensioner" is all I know about this man) in Glenealy in 1832. Jane and her husband had at least three children baptised in Rathdrum: Samuel, Richard and Catherine. For reasons as yet unknown to me, one of Thomas and Mary's daughters Mary-Jane, born at NMK in 1849, did not travel with her parents to Tasmania. Mary-Jane instead arrived in Tasmania 12 years later in early 1866 with her apparently now widowed Aunt Jane. Another girl of the same age was travelling with them, Kate Reeves, I believe probably the daughter of a baker from Rathdrum named Hercules Reeves. I highly suspect Jane's daughter Catherine Campbell was the Catherine Campbell that married Thomas and Mary's son James Williams, her cousin. The age is right, and Jane stuck to the same town in Tasmania as her nephew James and his wife until she died in 1899.
If anyone has any clues about these particular Mills and Williams Protestants of Wicklow, or even just what Streamstown was at Newtown Mount Kennedy (a farm name?), I'd certainly be grateful to hear it.
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So I finally had a breakthrough and figured it all out. In case someone else wants to know in the future:
William Mills was the son Joseph Mills and his wife Mary of Corballis near Rathdrum. There are baptism dates floating around for some of Joseph and Mary's children: Anne (1815), John (1819), Mary (1822) and Elizabeth (1825, plus an earlier Elizabeth from 1817 who probably died in infancy).
The baptism of William and his remaining sister I can't find, but it turns out she wasn't Emma Maria, she was Adela Maria and died unmarried in 1900 in Melbourne Australia. I first spotted her as a witness for the wedding of Anne's stepson. A comment in the Victorian probate records match perfectly that she had a sister on the Isle of Man (Elizabeth, married Thomas Manning), with a brother (John, married Susan Hall) and sister (Anne, married George Pearce) both still in Wicklow. I'm unsure yet when Mary died.
Their father Joseph Mills himself had at least two siblings that lived to adulthood, John and Mary. John stayed in Wicklow near Rathdrum, Mary married a Matthew Neil and died in Jamestown, South Australia in 1888. Her newspaper death notice mentions her two brothers back in Wicklow.
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Good to hear a success story. :)
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Hi, My 4 times great grandmother Grace Mills born 1762 in Rathdrum and was the daughter of Dr Daniel and Elinor (nee Coggin) Mills. Daniel's parents were Richard and Elizabeth. I have not gone back further. Grace's uncles and aunts include Elizabeth Mills, Martha Mills,Jane Mills, Susannah Mills, Richard Mills and John Scott Mills. Grace's siblings born from 1760 to 1780 incl Elizabeth, Elenor, Frances, Mary, Daniel also a doctor who inherited the property "Kingston" in Rathdrum on condition he change his name to King, John, Maria,Ester,and Mary. Grace Mills married Revd William Lynar Fawcett, son of James Fawcett and Hannah Lynar. James was a builder and property owner with land in Dublin and a farm up the road from "Kingston" called "Avon Hill". He was also a church warden at the Rathdrum church (established church). Well done on your research.
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Hi, My 4 times great grandmother Grace Mills born 1762 in Rathdrum and was the daughter of Dr Daniel and Elinor (nee Coggin) Mills. Daniel's parents were Richard and Elizabeth. I have not gone back further. Grace's uncles and aunts include Elizabeth Mills, Martha Mills,Jane Mills, Susannah Mills, Richard Mills and John Scott Mills. Grace's siblings born from 1760 to 1780 incl Elizabeth, Elenor, Frances, Mary, Daniel also a doctor who inherited the property "Kingston" in Rathdrum on condition he change his name to King, John, Maria,Ester,and Mary. Grace Mills married Revd William Lynar Fawcett, son of James Fawcett and Hannah Lynar. James was a builder and property owner with land in Dublin and a farm up the road from "Kingston" called "Avon Hill". He was also a church warden at the Rathdrum church (established church). Well done on your research.
Thanks, that's some interesting information you found! Was that the Daniel Mill who was, I think, an apothecary? Died 1779, born maybe around 1693? I was doing a little bit of research a while back on him but I didn't get too far. I know he married an Eleanor Coggin/Goggin, but I couldn't figure out if he had a previous wife Elizabeth and a daughter Sarah Mills baptised much earlier around 1720. With a few assumptions, I think this was the Sarah Mills that married a Thomas Williams and they were apparently living around the Rockstown townlands near Rathdrum. Their first child was named Daniel Mills Williams. Daniel Mills Williams married an Elizabeth and they had a daughter Elizabeth Williams. This Elizabeth Williams married a James Williams, also from Rathdrum and they moved to "Streamstown" at Newtownmountkennedy. One of their children was Thomas Williams, my 3rd-great grandfather who moved to Tasmania.
As I said though, a lot of assumptions that far back, but if the baptism/marriage/address trail is right, that would make Daniel Mills my... 7th-great grandfather? The reason I tried to figure it out in the first place is because among Thomas Williams' siblings, uncles, aunts, etc. is that recurring name of Daniel Mills Williams. I've counted at least five Daniel Mills Williams so far, and probably a sixth in Canada.
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Daniel Mills, son of Richard and Elizabeth, married Eleanor (Elinor) Goggin (Coggin) at St Johns Dublin 21 Nov 1757. I dont have a reference unfortunatly. Eleanor died in 1825 aged 85 years indicating she may have been born around 1740. She lived in upper Baggot St Dublin and was the mother of the late Dr Daniel Mills King of Kingston, Co Wicklow. Reference Freemans 4/1/1825 page 4. I have no knowledge of an earlier marriage nor of a Williams connection. I thought he was a similar age to Eleanor. I was not aware that he died in 1779. Have you got a reference for that. Trinity College Dublin records show that Daniel Mills junior (ie Daniel Mills King) was admitted in 1786 aged 16, son of Daniel who's occupation was Medicus. Daniel Mills King ended up as President of the College of Physicians in 1807 and had a son also Daniel who graduated from TCD. It was not untill 1812 that Daniel Mills inherited Kingston from Thomas King and added King to his name.
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I thought he was a similar age to Eleanor. I was not aware that he died in 1779. Have you got a reference for that
These were a couple of things I had:
Betham Genealogical Extracts - Series 1 - Vol 48
#339 - Mills Daniel of Rathdrum County Wicklow, apothecary. Dated 2nd June 1779, probate(?) 21st July 1779.
Wife Ellenor, children John, Grace, Eleanor, Frances, Maria, Anne, Elizabeth and Esther, son Daniel.
Saunder's News-Letter, 11th of June 1779
At Rathdrum, in the county of Wicklow, Daniel Mills Esq; aged 86.
I have him dying or being buried on the 9th of June 1779, but I can't find where I found that now. Probably a RootsIreland transcript.
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Thanks for the reference. Looks like my ancestor but no mention in the Betham extract of daughter Sarah or grandchildren with a Williams surname.
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Ion, I have the trinity Admission records for both Daniel Mills and John Scott Mills. I will have to dig them out....I also have a copy of his Latin Thesis from Edinburgh university 1793 somewhere...couldn't read any of it.. I don't have any Williams names in our Mills branch..Ams
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I've been doing some more research where I can of the Mills in Rathdrum and their connection to Sarah Mills who married Thomas Williams of Rockstown in 1739. It's difficult to figure out sons from cousins from brothers from remarriages, but so far my guess would be that there was a Daniel Mills who was the father of the apothecary Daniel Mills (~1693 to 1789), and probably also the father of a Richard Mills (burial record for "Mr Richard Mills" at Rathdrum in 1758, age unknown) and a Joseph Mills (from Cantwell, buried at Rathdrum aged 88, ~1682 to 1770).
A few random bits and pieces:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-JJ43
No. 31386
1725 - A Daniel Mills of Rathdrum is mentioned, innkeeper. Possibly the father of Daniel, Richard and Joseph, if they were brothers.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89LW-GPDS
No. 302
1732 - Thomas Williams of Rockstown in Wicklow, wife Sarah, eldest son George, middle son Thomas (who would go on to marry Sarah Mills), youngest son William. Daughters Elizabeth Long nee Williams, Febey and Sarah. Grandson George Long, Elizabeth's son.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN1-63YM-M
No. 49225
1732 - Unusually for the time, Thomas Williams (father of the Thomas who married Sarah Mills) bequeaths the entirety of the Rockstown farm to his youngest son, William Williams.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99LW-2ZML
No. 39
1736 - Richard Mills of County Wicklow, farmer, marries Elizabeth Sherrard of Arklow Parish. Starting from 1738, numerous baptisms of a Richard and Elizabeth Mills are performed at Rathdrum, including their first son which is a Daniel Mills. The last baptism is in 1757, the year before the burial record for Richard.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-S3XR-G
No. 65202
1738 - There's a Joseph Mills, son of Daniel Mills of Rathdrum.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9LW-KFDH
No. 216
1739 - Thomas Williams, now working as a clothier in Wicklow, married Sarah Mills of Rathdrum. Their earlier children are baptised in Rathdrum, and most later children at the Castlemacadam parish closer to Rockstown. Three of their sons are named Joseph Williams, Richard Williams and Daniel Mills Williams.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-GD3T
No. 55584
1743 - This entry seems to be confused and alternates between a Joseph Mills and a Joseph Wills. I think the actual person may be Joseph Mills, carpenter of Rathdrum, and he is obtaining a property currently inhabited by John Wills the elder and his son John. There is indeed a John Wills, son of John, baptised in Rathdrum in 1708. Witnessing the article is Daniel Mills of Rathdrum, gentleman.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q6BQ
No. 99141
1744 - Mentions the original lease of Rockstown by the elder Thomas Williams from Rev. Thomas Whaley of County Meath in 1712 and tied to the lives of three people. The lease is now being renegotiated with the late Whaley's nephew Richard Chappell Whaley of Whaley Abbey in Wicklow. In place of William Williams and Sarah Williams (his wife?) who have apparently died somehow, Thomas Williams and his wife Sarah Mills are added to the deed along with the existing name George Williams.
Witnesses to the memorial are Richard Lambert, gentleman, and Daniel Mills, apothecary, both of Rathdrum.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNH-WGT1
No. 93415
1749 - Some organising of funds between Thomas Williams of Rockstown, farmer, and George Williams of Dublin, chandler. Presumably the two brothers. Subserving witnesses to the deed are Daniel Mills and Richard Mills, both listed as farmers of Rathdrum.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-97F8
No. 188713
1768 - Some sublease agreements or somesuch of Rockstown between Thomas Williams and Hugh Byrne and widow Elinor Byrne. A Richard Mills of "Longhouse" in Wicklow is mentioned as a witness.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNH-496P-C
No. 212937
1777 - More lease arrangements regarding Rockstown between Thomas and Sarah Williams and their eldest son Daniel Mills Williams. Also mentioned is Thomas King of Ballynaclash (Ballinaclash), I believe the one who later willed his estate to Daniel Mills MD, son of the apothecary Daniel Mills.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-33BH-2
No. 379104
1803 - Thomas Williams and his wife Margaret Edge, Thomas being the eldest son of the now late Daniel Mills Williams. Thomas King mentioned again.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS54-33S3-G
No. 422309
1809 - Thomas Williams of Rockstown. Mentions Thomas King of Kingston along with a Daniel Williams and Daniel Mills Williams. The latter two probably Thomas' brother and son, respectively.