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Title: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: Sheldon on Monday 29 March 10 09:14 BST (UK)
Cant work out why GG grandparents went to France sometime between 1871 and 1891, then came back to England.  GG grandfather was a Yorkshireman from the Huddersfield area who worked as a mechanic according to one of the census'.  Any ideas out there?
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: tenby tart on Monday 29 March 10 13:14 BST (UK)
Hi Sheldon

My ggrandparents done the same they were from Staffordshire & 4 of their children were born in France.

If you google Industrial Revelution you might find your answers on a site as I did, I realise that there was plenty of work for them.

Hope this helps

Lynne
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: Ebch on Monday 29 March 10 20:17 BST (UK)
What kind of mechanic was he?  Building of Eiffel Tower 1887-89 and Paris Exposition may have some bearing?
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: Sheldon on Friday 02 April 10 02:00 BST (UK)
Thanks Tenbytart I will do that, hadnt thought along those lines.
Sheldon
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: Sheldon on Friday 02 April 10 02:06 BST (UK)
Hi Ebch, I dont know what kind of Mechanic he was, but will check the Eiffel Tower thing out.
Thanks
Sheldon
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: ozcanucka on Wednesday 14 April 10 01:05 BST (UK)
I've got a similar case.  They nipped over to Fontainebleau around 1872 and were there at least long enough for a son to be born.  They were in service, so I'm guessing the family they worked for were in France, but I don't know.  I'm just now going  painstakingly through the census records....which aren't alphabetical  If you know where in France they were, AND if that Department and Commune has digitised their records, you could look through the census -- they're every five years, more or less, and usually quite easy to read (if you need a hand translating the column headings, just shout out).  The tricky bit is knowing what area to look in.

Lots of fun!
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: Sheldon on Friday 16 April 10 06:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for that ozcanucka, I hadnt thought of the French census. Ive been trying to figure out why they went there for so long.  I just leave it alone for a while and then go back to it.

Sheldon.
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: norwaygirl on Monday 10 May 10 14:14 BST (UK)
I am research my family as well:

Selina Stirrup born in "Fra, British Subject, Lille" around 1842.  This was only child born there, went back to England prior to heading to America in 1855.   Cannot find birth cert, or info on this part of France, and why says"british subject".   Can any one shed some light on this part of history?
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: jorose on Monday 10 May 10 15:35 BST (UK)
If the father of a child born overseas was British, the child automatically had British citizenship.

What was the occupation of Selina's father? I think there was quite a bit of iron-working around that area.

http://www.archivesdepartementales.cg59.fr/
 - shows in Lille (tables décennales, which are indexes of bmds) a Celina F????? Stirrup, registered 28 Mai 1841. She seems to be the only birth there. I didn't check for marriages or deaths.

http://www.archivesdepartementales.cg59.fr/?id=contact
 - you could contact them to ask about getting a copy.
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: norwaygirl on Monday 10 May 10 22:08 BST (UK)
thanks, I looked up the occupation:  Tinware Mft.  so that would probably be why the move to France.   Thanks for getting back to my so quickly.   Do you think I could find that birth certificate to confirm parents names and finally have a correct date of birth, as I do not read (or speak) French.  (unfortunately! :-\)
Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: jorose on Monday 10 May 10 22:25 BST (UK)
The certificate isn't on the site, just the indexes.
Unfortunately looking on the site they say that they now no longer respond to requests for copies.

Whether they still hold copies for that far back there I'm not sure, but you might try the email on this page:
http://www.mairie-lille.fr/fr/Votre_Mairie/Vos_demarches_et_teleservices
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http://genealogy.about.com/library/blfrenchletter.htm

Title: Re: Yorkshire to France, then back to England
Post by: norwaygirl on Tuesday 11 May 10 13:21 BST (UK)
Once again, thanks!