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Title: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Sunday 28 March 10 04:49 BST (UK)
Hello

I am following the Conkey family; our line ended up in Rochester New York.

From my mother-in-law's research in the 1970s and grandmother-in-law's research in the early 1960s we have

Gen 1
Mary Alexandria Conkey
married James Christie in Albion, Orleans, New York in April of 1892. I have two days, April 13 and April 19, to sort out.

She was born May 6, 1870 in Killyleagh, County Down, Ireland; died June 6, 1946 in Rochester, Monroe, New York. She was orphaned at about the age of 12 (family history) or 14 (checking the actual dates) and came to the United States alone to live with her married sister Isabella.

Mary was the daughter of

Gen 2
Samuel Conkey
born 1842. Mary told someone in the family that Samuel was born in Scotland, as were her two older sisters, Sarah Jane and Isabella, but we can find no record that the family lived in Scotland; if they did, they must have lived there briefly, they were not caught on the 1840, 1850 or 1860 Scotland Censuses and I cannot find a birth record for Samuel, Isabella or Sarah Jane in Scotland via Scotland's People or any other records there for any of said family names. Mary Alexandria was about 4 when her father died and about 10 or 12 when her mother died. She may have been told they were from Scotland when she came to the US to live.

Her father Samuel Conkey (b. 1841) died 1874 in Killyleagh, County Down, Ireland. He was a shopkeeper. We have an official copy of the marriage record, copied by a townsperson from the Killyleagh city records which says Samuel married Mary Middleton (1842-1884) on Nov 8, 1862, Killinchy and Killyleagh Parish, County Down, Ireland. Mary Middleton's father was John Middleton. I do not know more about his family, but he may have been married to Mary Kelly; I do not know if he had just the one wife.

We have 5 children listed of the couple, Sarah Jane, Isabella (both came to New York) Eliza A., Mary Alexandria, and Samuel John

The marriage record gives Samuel's residence as Raffrey (which I do not see on Google Maps, but may be in County Down), and his father as

Gen 3
Alexander Conkey
, Laborer
b. 1814 Ireland (family record)
d. 1889 Ireland (family record)
Laborer, servant
Here they do not have a wife.

I have found an IGI record, no sources given, that he was born 1817, died 1900 and married Isabella McIlveen in 1838, Killinchy Parish, B Macreely, Down, Ireland. (Where is B Macreely?)

and

Alexander Conkey, Killinchy Parish, of Ballymacashen; leased a house from Joseph Minnis in 1863, a GV record.

Back to my earlier family records of about 1960, they have Alexander's father tentatively as:

Gen 4
Samuel Conkey
who was living at Ballymacashan in 1833 (recorded in the Tithe Book, Killyinchy Parish, 1833). I have also found the same Tithe Book record online.

Where is Ballymacashan?

The 1960s record says "tentatively" but the later 1970s record says he was the father, and that this Samuel's parents were Arthur Conkey and Margaret Greenfield.

Between the 1960s and 1970s the family had found a descendant living in the Killyleagh area still, a McVeigh, who provided some facts. The McVeighs would descend from Alexander Conkey Gen 2 (above), from his daughter Martha who married James McVeigh so I think that the later information must have come from them, but my mother in law has passed so I cannot ask.

IGI gives d.o.b. for this Samuel as abt 1788, Kelinchy, Down, Ireland, with no sources sited, and parents Arthur Conkey and Margaret Greenfield.

I would like to know his wife.

Gen 5
Arthur Conkey
and Margaret Greenfield

IGI information, no sources given:
Arthur Conkey
b. abt 1760 Saint Field, Down, Ireland
m. abt 1784 County Down, Ireland
Margaret Greenfield
b. abt 1763 Saint Field, Down, Ireland

So my other questions are - does anyone have anything on Gen 4 Samuel Conkey which I do not, d.o.b, marriage, death? likely of Ballymacashan, or that would firm up this link to Gen 3 and Gen 5?

Or any more on Arthur Conkey and Margaret Greenfield, by chance?

Or any more information about this line of Conkeys?

Thank you very much for any leads.

Jane
Brooklyn, New York
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 28 March 10 09:11 BST (UK)
3 children of Samuel Conkey and Mary Middleton listed in I.G.I.- www.familysearch.org:
1. Eliza born 10 Oct.1867 Co.Down
2. Mary Alexander born 8 May 1870 Co. Down
3. Samuel John born 19 Nov.1872 Co.Down

Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Sunday 28 March 10 13:46 BST (UK)
Ok that is interesting. I have to double check the family notes on Mary Alexandria, I think she may have been Mary Alexander, there was some discussion in the family because another female descendant also was given Alexander as a middle name. That would have been my mistake. Good catch.

(Later) Oh rats, all my family trees, mother in law and grandmother in law have Alexandria, but I bet it is Alexander and it was forgotten in the US later. Interesting that her son would revert, and give Alexander to his daughter. I am going to stick with Alexander.

As to May 8 for d.o.b. we have May 6. However this may have been, again, another family story error, I don't know. Her headstone which I recently received a photograph, gives her dates as 1872-1946, Mary A. Christie which aligns with family stories that she came by herself to America at age 12, but I think, since her burial and the 60s and 70s research, the notes I have do give 1870 as y.o.b. I would suspect May 8 might have been a christening date rather than d.o.b. but again, with all of these little errors, it could be d.o.b.

As to Eliza and Samuel then, that follows Mary's story to her children that the three youngest children were born in Ireland (We have Eliza A. not Eliza Jane). That still leaves a question as to the two older daughters, Isabella and Sarah Jane whom Mary Alexander said were born in Scotland. Interesting. As I said, I could not find the family in Scottish censuses, or in the BMD or Scotlands People at all. Hmm.

Thank you for this.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 28 March 10 14:06 BST (UK)
I.G.I. has some, not all, Irish births 1864-c1882 so the fact that not all the children are listed there just means those records weren't extracted, they were born before the start of registration or they were born somewhere else.

Civil registration index is online-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=collectionDetails
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Sunday 28 March 10 20:41 BST (UK)
Ok I found the two older children, thanks for the Civil Parish link. Sarah Jane and Isabella were under Conchy, an alternate spelling I had for the family, though Conkey is the most frequently used later on.

Registered at the same location as the other children, Downpatrick. So the Scotland story is not holding up.

Thanks for the lead!
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 28 March 10 21:12 BST (UK)
Checking I.G.I using the surname Conchy shows Isabella's birth- 12 Oct.1865 Killyleagh district (page 523 in civil register).
      
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Sunday 28 March 10 22:32 BST (UK)
It surely must be her. Here in the States they recorded her birth as December 10, 1865, likely reversing the 10 and 12 as they often do... So I will correct that. My mother in law had tracked down either Isabella's family or Sarah Jane's in New York, and gotten that date, but no place of birth. Someone gave her Conchy with a question mark.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: kbjones82 on Saturday 22 May 10 02:49 BST (UK)
My great grandfather Samuel Conkey was born in 1876 in Ireland and migrated to Dayton Ward 10, Montgomery, Ohio in 1881.  According to the 1910 census he was married to Hettie and had children Samuel B. (my grandfather born 1901) and daughter Rhoda born 1909.  The 1930 census shows that he was married to Thalia Learman and the last name is still Conkey.  When my mother was born in 1931, Mac was handwritten onto her birth certificate.  We were always told that Samuel Conkey came from Scotland and not Ireland.  I am really confused if anyone can help.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: kbjones82 on Saturday 22 May 10 02:50 BST (UK)
Sorry left out that my grandfather Samuel B. Conkey (later MacConkey) lived in Buffalo, New York until 1950.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: JulieInNornIron on Tuesday 25 May 10 02:13 BST (UK)
I went to high school in saintfield & knew quite a few kids from Raffrey.
It's between Saintfield & Killyleagh.
It's tiny!

~julie

Moderator's Comment: image removed due to copyright restrictions (Crown Copyright 2007 at bottom of map is a big clue).
Title: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, (Raffrey reference)
Post by: sherlockmh on Wednesday 01 June 11 17:20 BST (UK)
re:  portions of your entry related to a "McIlveen" name and Raffrey.

See my other recent posting of Raffrey/Raffery, where portion of my family tree definitel resided in the late 1800's and early 1900's.

In your posting, you mention an Isabella McIlveen, married in 1838 at Killinchy Parish.


"The marriage record gives Samuel's residence as Raffrey (which I do not see on Google Maps, but may be in County Down), and his father as

Gen 3
Alexander Conkey, Laborer
b. 1814 Ireland (family record)
d. 1889 Ireland (family record)
Laborer, servant
Here they do not have a wife.

I have found an IGI record, no sources given, that he was born 1817, died 1900 and married Isabella McIlveen in 1838, Killinchy Parish, B Macreely, Down, Ireland. (Where is B Macreely?)"

a) 

Since the place name matches (Raffery), it is possible that my McIlveens were related to Isabella McIlveen mentioned above.

From my family history:

Robert McIlveen, b. 1827, d. 1/5/1907, m. Jane Hewitt 8/8/1859? (Jane was born in 1839 in Raffery, County Down, d. 4/18/1909.  (see marriage certificate copy and scan, from 1st Pres. Church at Killinchy).  Jane’s parents were William Hewitt and Veronica Geddis.

They lived on a farm called Raffery, which was originally owned by Jane Hewitt’s parents (?).

Gravestone at Church of Ireland, Killinchy, says

“ Erected in memory of Wm. Hewitt of Raffery who departed this life March 11, 1840 age 50 years, also his wife Veronica Hewitt alias Geddis who died Sept. 17th 1884 age 100 years, also Robert McIlveen of Comber who died January 5th, 1907, age 80 years also his wife Jane Hewitt McIlveen who died April 17,  1909 age 70 years also their son Robert McIlveen of Raffery who died April 29, 1927 age 76 years also his three sons who died in infancy.

At other end of plot is small headstone reading “In memory of Robert McIlveen of Raffery died 29 April 1927 age 76 years and Charlotte McIlveen died 27th Nov. 1937 age 84 years.”


b)  Raffrey

I have a "paper" map of County Down that shows Raffrey as a place name, not far from Killinchy.  I think it came from family history pages my uncle Mel McIlveen sent me about 1995 - he had visited Raffrey and Northern Ireland at some point in the years before that time.

You can also find a map on this link, showing Raffrey in between Saintfield and Shrigley, on/not far off Manse Road, several miles northwest of Killyleigh on Strangford Lough:
http://www.yourlocalweb.co.uk/county-down/raffrey/map/



Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Monday 13 June 11 14:41 BST (UK)
@sherlockmh

Thank you for posting!

It would seem very likely that your Robert McIlveen (m. Jane Hewitt) and Isabella McIlveen were related. His estimated year of birth then is 1827. I would estimate Isabella's y.o.b. about 1818ish if she were married 1838. That is a 9 year gap, could be same family even if Robert (namesake) younger. Most certainly related.

And thank you for posting the information on Raffrey.

This is interesting and very helpful.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Monday 13 June 11 15:01 BST (UK)
I have a silly question which, after a good night's sleep I might be able to figure out..

Is there a way to search for Raffrey/Raffery? Or do I look at post titles through this thread?

Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: twitter on Monday 13 June 11 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi Miles_Hagan_Brown
Afraid I can't help you on the ancestor trail re your posts but it is your middle handle that caught my attention immediately. I have a g-grandmother from Carrickfergus, Antrim who was an Elizabeth Hagan and married James Giffen in 1854 in Carrick. Any connections in your family tree.
Thanks
Twitter
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Monday 13 June 11 16:10 BST (UK)
Uh oh, just noticed the typo! I cannot believe I did that. Hagen. Oh brother, forever a typo in my handle! How embarrassing.
The Hagen connect is Quaker from Friedrichstadt, Germany, probably Dutch, who went to London. SORRY for the red herring there.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: cdelaplace on Saturday 31 December 11 21:10 GMT (UK)
Seeking information about the McVeighs of County Down IRELAND, my grandmother emigrated to USA from the Newcastle area her family were fishermen. They are mentioned in Sailing SHips of Mourne hoping to connect with living descendents... cdelaplace in PA.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Monday 02 January 12 01:24 GMT (UK)
McVeigh:

I do not have much.

My connection with McVeigh, (my husband's family) is through a Conkey line. My husband's line was through Alexander Conkey and Isabella McIlveen who had 7 children, the oldest son, Samuel, is our line. His sister, Martha, the youngest child, married a James McVeigh sometime after 1872 (we have a family note that Martha Conkey was present at the death of her sister, Eliza, in 1872). Other than that, I do not have any dates, but she would have been born in the 1850s likely, County Down.

Comes from my mother in law’s notes:

From my mother-in-law's notes she left, made at the time of their trip to Scotland and Ireland, Martha married James McVeigh. In the 1960s, a McVeigh still lived in the Killinchy-Killyleagh-Ballymacashen area, they corresponded, visited, and he provided some Conkey information. My parents had gone to to Alexander Conkey's house which was still standing and the family knew the McVeigh's and relationship to Alexander Conkey. She received a list of children for Martha and James McVeigh:
Isabella
James
Jane
Alex
Hugh
Samuel
Martha

Is this your family? Where did they come to in the US? Three Conkey daughters, cousins I presume, (nieces of Martha Conkey McVeigh) came to New York State near Rochester, but I think one went into Pennsylvania after marriage .
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: sherlockmh on Monday 16 January 12 13:02 GMT (UK)
perhaps we can trade notes.  See my other post on Raffrey/Raffery at the link below - looking for more info on my McIlveen/Geddis/Findley/Hewitt and other relations in N. Ireland:


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=482812.0
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: CONKEY303 on Wednesday 01 February 12 20:44 GMT (UK)
Arthur Conkey and Margaret Greenfield are my Gr.,Gr.,Gr.,Gr. grandparents and the oldest known Conkeys in my line. I have more information of my down line, their eldest son Arthur Conkey md. Margaret Ferguson if you haven't received any since your posting.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Sunday 05 February 12 20:42 GMT (UK)
@ Conkey303

Thanks for your post.

No I have not learned much more about my husband's Conkey line except what is posted here, did find out that the grandson was married to Isabella McIlveen, and found some info on her family.

Would like to know more about Arthur Conkey and Mararet Greenfield and children, especially son, Samuel (our line), Arthurs younger brother. I still do not have much on him, nor do I have a wife.

Do you suppost, at that time, Arthur and Margaret could have come from Scotland? I know family legends are not always true, but the story was that the family was from Scotland. I do not know enough of my Irish and British Isles history to know when people did move back and forth, but I know it was done at certain times. In my family, a McCaslin line went from Scotland to Belfast area then to Pennsylvania, sometime between 1740ish and 1772.

The Conkeys were Presbyterians, I am certain, which points to Scotland.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 05 February 12 21:32 GMT (UK)
Scotland and County Down aren't that far apart and people constantly moved back and forth between the two so there wasn't a 'certain time' for this to happen. Since Ireland was part of the U.K. no records were kept of people going from Ireland to Scotland, England or wales.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: CONKEY303 on Monday 06 February 12 15:20 GMT (UK)
Arthur and Margaret had 5 sons, Arthur, Robert, Thomas, Samuel and Alexander. Arthur, the younger, immigrated to the adelaide, london ontario area via quebec . They helped homestead this area and there still is a presbyterian church there that they donated land for. Alexander, md. Mary McClurdy, we are pretty sure immigrated to nova scotia and had 5 children, 4 girls and 1 boy.  No other information on the other 3 boys including samuel . Although, documentation is very scarce , the Conkey line is part of the clan robertson (clan donnachaidh) and there is a good chance they came from scotland after they were defeated by  james the first in the early 1600's
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: cabennett on Saturday 17 May 14 11:56 BST (UK)
It sounds like we may be related.  My great grandmother was Ella Mae Conkey (b. 1879), daughter of Joseph Conkey (b. 1842) and Carrie Todd (b. 1838), born in New York.  That family settled around Watertown, NY.  Joseph is the son of James Conkey (b. ? Ireland) and Ann Martin (b. ? Ireland).  James is the son of Arthur Conkey and Margaret Ferguson, I have no dates on them, but he is the son of Arthur Conkey and Margaret Greenfield of Ireland.  Unfortunately, my research runs cold after this.  Any help is appreciated. 
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: GenFerret on Thursday 06 August 15 17:41 BST (UK)
Not sure how old your post is, but our family name is Middleton, apparently with a Killyleagh/Shrigley connection.
Re: Your Mary Middleton - There is a headstone in St. John The Evangelist Church in Killyleagh, as follows - " Erected by John Middleton in memory of his daughter Mary and her orphaned children.  The above named John Middleton died 24th September, 1892 aged 79 years. We THINK this John Middleton, the father married a Sara Jane Arbuthnott at this church on 24th February 1877. She is recorded as "Spinster", Shrigley, he as a widower.
Any further information on the Middletons from this area would be of interest to us.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Saturday 08 August 15 17:22 BST (UK)
Hi Jane, you have done great job, I just checked around incase i could help, so repeating perhaps {all of what}you know, nevertheless I also was trying to knock out and list negative searches, so here my quick reply's
Arming myself for searching before 1860
Conkey, Conkie, Conquay, etc  Except for the last spelling the http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm?Surname=Conkey&fuseaction=Go.
covers, far more spelling variants with total numbers, [ you can click on original to see County numbers.  That is worth doing, but I havent the time to offer now, except for Conkey which reveals Antrim 4, Down 16.]

Conaghy 11, Conkey 20, Connaghy 4, Connahy 6, Cunaghy 15,Magonagy 4, McConachie 3, McConachy 10, McConaghey 2, McConaghy 71, McConahy 7,
McConchy 19, McConkey 62, McConky 9, McConnaghy 42, McConnahy 11, McConochie 7,

even more surname possibilities
eg Conachey, Conaky, Connachy, Connaghey, M'Conaghy, M'Konky, Mac Dhonnchaidh, MacConachie, MacConaghie, MacConaghy, MacConkey, MacConnachie, MacConnaghie, MacConnaughie, McCanahy, McConaky, McConaughey, McConaughy,McConechy, McConeghy, McConekey, McConnachie, McConnachy, McConochy, McKonkey,

Some geography

Killinchy civil parish sits on top of Killyleagh civil parish

Killinchy civil parish is surrounded by Tullynakill, Kilmood, Comber, Saintfield, Kilmore, Killyleagh  and Strangford Lough

Killyleagh civil parish is surrounded by Killinchy, Kilmore, Inch, a strip of Down, perhaps Saul and Strangford Lough

The outer ring of towns includes Comber, Saintfield, Crossgar, Downpatrick and within Ardmillan and Killyleagh   all of which might be mentioned as a district name

Ballymacashen townland is about the middle of the strip civil parish and sits ontop of Raffery townalnd

Concentrating on Killinchy and Killyleagh civil searches [reluctantly having found some families travelled further for church services etc] leads me back to

1827-1833
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/killyleagh-parish.php#.VcYG7kuDoYU
nothing found
from http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/killinchy-parish.php#.VcYGjkuDoYU
Conchy, Samuel Townland: Ballymacashane Year: 1833

Conkey, James Townland: Raffery Year: 1833

1863
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation
Conkey   Alexander   Ballymacashen   Killinchy   Down
Conkey   William   Tullyhubbert   Comber   Down
Conkey   William   Mill Street,Comber   Comber   Down
Conkey   Eliza      Magherascouse   Comber   Down
Conkey   Isabella   Ballyrush   Comber   Down
Conkey   James      Ballyrickard   Comber   Down
Conkey   Jane      Ballyrush   Comber   Down
Conkey   Mary      Ballycreelly   Comber   Down

The above Alexander has a modest house with valuation of 15 shillings pa with map ref  9, which on closer examination is 9ao but although I could lookup the historical map for Griffiths valuation and could find 9A and 9B I couldn’t find the abcd etc group.

Individual records from www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com from http://countydown.x10.mx/html/index2.htm   
Conkey, Eliza b 10 Oct 1867  Killyleagh Father: Samuel Conkey Mother: Mary Middleton

Individual records from Ros Davies  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies
Alexander Conkey the Griffiths entry 1863 above
Jane CONQUAY [b~>1804] Killinchy married Solomon Jamison 12 Dec 1820 at Killinchy Presbyterian Church
Martha CONQUAY  .  Killinchy married William Waddle 1 Nov 1838 at Killinchy Presbyterian Church PR
Sarah CONQUAY married Henry Coates 12 Nov 1819 at Killinchy Presbyterian Church
Samuel Conkey son of Alexander Conkey; married Mary Middleton 8 Nov 1862 in Killinchy ; father of Eliza b. 10 Oct 1867 & Samuel John b. 19 Nov 1872 (regd. Killyleagh)
Samuel McCONKEY Killyleagh of #16 Ardigon townland , 1891-1899; listed as a servant for head of the house,James Cochrane   PSCIK
William M'CONKEY   Killinchy, Comber area with Samuel Napier & John M'Clusky , convicted of stealing 200 pounds of lead at Killinchy 10 Jun 1842, the property of Robert Potter Esq. from his store which was sometimes used as a church; held eye witness Patrick Dobbin hostage until lead was sold in Comber to Mrs. Harrigan   BU

Individual records from the Ulster historical foundation
http://www.ancestryireland.com
has no conquay
births
Aleander McMackan Conkey  b 1828 father John Co Down
Alexander Conkey b 1835 father William Co Down
marriages
Alexander Conkey m1853 father James  Co Down
Alexander Conkey m1862 father William Co Down
Samuel Conkey b 1862 father Alexander Co Down

Individual records  from www.Familysearch.org
Mary Alexander b 8 may 1870 Killyleagh parents Samuel  Conkey and Mary[Middleton}

Have run out of time
Hoping something of value
jimsanssouci
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Saturday 08 August 15 21:19 BST (UK)
To GenFerrett

THANK YOU.

My post is a bit old, I have not worked on this line for a while.

This surely seems to be our John Middleton whose daughter was Mary who married Samuel Conkey (Conchy). He died in 1874 at age 32 and left wife with children. Mary Middleton Conkey died 12 years later. Our ancestor, Mary Alexander Conkey then came to the US by herself, she would have been about 13 or 14, to live with her married sister Isabella (Conkey) Johns who was older and had come a few years before. That was to Albion, New York, USA. Samuel Conkey worked in a shop. In the 1960s my in-laws hired someone to look into records near there, or perhaps a distant cousin, and they found:

From a transcription mailed to John Christie in the 1960s,
“Inspected Registers of Deaths at Registrar’s Office, Downatrick, on 18th August, 1961”

Date of Death:
11th May, 1874
Samuel Conkey, male, married, age 32, Shopkeeper’s clerk
Present at death:
Mary Conkey, of Tullyveery (Shrigley)
Date of Registration:
22/5/1874

and

From a transcription mailed to my husband's grandfather in the 1960s,
“Inspected Registers of Deaths at Registrar’s Office, Downatrick, on 18th August, 1961”:

Date of Death:
4/3/1884, Killyleagh
Mary Conkey, female, widow, age 44, widow of a grocer
Present at Death:
John Middleton, father
Registration of Death:
15/5/1884

Our family notes give the family church as County Down, District Downpatrick, First Presbyterian Church, Parish of Killinchy. This is in the same area as Shrigley and Killyleagh:

Mary Middleton, of Killinchy and Killyleagh, daughter of John Middleton; married Samuel Conkey 8 Nov 1862 in Killinchy ; mother of Eliza b. 1867 (regd. Killyleagh)

Samuel and Mary were married at the First Presbyterian Church in Killyleagh. It was likely Mary’s church as couples were usually married at the church of the bride.
- - -

My research notes on Mary Middleton state:

The Ulster Historical Society has a "Mary Middleton, born in 1838 to John". It also has her listed, "Mary, daughter of John, married in 1862 in County Down". There is also a listing in 1864 as well.

Extracted from birth or christening records
IGI Batch Nos:

father Samuel Conkey
mother Mary Middleton

Eliza Conkey
b. Oct 10, 1867, Down, Ireland
C011884 gives just Eliza, and C011839 gives Eliza Jane - no source given for either, but both give Down.

Mary Alexander Conkey
b. May 8, 1870, Down, Ireland
C702514 extracted, Ireland only, and again C702514 - no source given but it gives Down.

Samuel John Conkey
Nov 19, 1872, Ireland
C701529 extracted, Ireland only, and again C701529 extracted - giving Down.

father Samuel Conchy
mother Mary Middleton

Isabella Conchy
b. Oct 12, 1865 Killyleagh, Down, Ireland
C701267 extracted from Irish Civil Records. The place listed is the county, registration district, and page number of the birth entry; it may not be the actual birthplace.

And from the pilot search FamilySearch pages:

Sara Jane M Conchy
Birth 1864 Downpatrick Registration District (Down, Ireland)
from Family Search, Pilot Project, Civil Registrations for Ireland, 1845-1958.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=collectionDetails

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John Middleton

Extracted marriage records give her name as Sarah Kelly, batch no. M700301
So not same Sara name, you had spinster? But your lead is good, I only found the one stating Kelly. Seems it would take more than one to make proof.

But I have a note that at one time he was married to Mary KELLY, so maybe the above, I made a mistake and my notes should say he was married to Sarah and Mary Kelly.

So your Sara is looking even better.

I found:

At one time he was married to Mary Kelly, but he may have been married more than once. (where is that citation?)

From a transcription mailed to my husband's grandfather in the 1960s,
“Inspected Registers of Deaths at Registrar’s Office, Downatrick [ Downpatrick? ], on 18th August, 1961”:

Date of Death:
24/9/1892, [no place given]
John Middleton, male, married, age 79, Shepperd
Present at Death:
T. J. Middleton (her mark) informant present at death at corporation
[no date given for registration of death]

The children I have for John:

Mary Middleton Conkey (ca 1838-41 - 2 Mar 1884)

Think these are children of same John, siblings of Mary above:
Margaret "Maggie"
Sarah
Thomas. Perhaps Thomas was TJ giving information at the time of his father's death.

I am sorry, I need to look deeper into this, probably gleaned from IGI records and town history and probates online. This was early in my research, and I have since gotten more organized, but there were some clear references to these three as adult children with John, and the John was the same as the father of Mary.

Not good enough I know.

Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Saturday 08 August 15 21:22 BST (UK)
BallyaltikilliganG

Thank you for all of the leads. Some are definitely in the family, so will spend more time looking through your information.

Conkey. Conquay. I like the latter, has a "French" touch.  :)

Will check them all as we do know there were some spelling variants for the family name.

Thanks again for all the leads.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: GenFerret on Sunday 16 August 15 19:41 BST (UK)
Thank you for your very prompt reply. Much appreciated,  I am fairly sure that this is your John Middleton. Christened in Killinchy Presbyterian Church on 2nd October 1813.  His father was also John Middleton.  He married Sarah Kelly in either 1831 or 1837, 9th January. Citation -  LDS has two entries and I think one is a typo - 1837 is probably correct.  It would seem that he had a sister and two brothers, Martha, 1816, William 1822 and  Andrew 1825.  All have father "John" and all Killinchy Presbyterian. :)   
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: miles_hagen_bown on Tuesday 18 August 15 15:02 BST (UK)
GenFerret
Thank you, this seems quite solid, fits with other records.
John Middleton was born in Ireland as well.
Funny, GGrandmother had Scottish as her ancestry on several US Census docs, but earlier Irish. We realize that earlier generations may have come from Scotland but her immediate were from County Down. Scotland is not panning out for her recent ancestors so far - all having deep roots in the area.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: Guruji on Thursday 11 April 24 01:55 BST (UK)
Hi guys....I don't want to interfere in your conversation but I got a bible which probably says the names of your ancestors and the sentence goes like this ( Conkey - Elizabeth Jane died on February 13th,1959 and also her husband died 3rd October 1943- lovingly remembered) and there are few dates and names on the book like Sarah, Robert franay and dates like October 1947 and February 2, 1892....I hope this information matches, if yes please do let me know so that I can return the book.
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: Guruji on Thursday 11 April 24 01:59 BST (UK)
I also founded a empty postal cover which is addressed to dundrum, Dublin 16
Title: Re: Conkey of Killyleagh area, Saintfields; McVeigh, Middleton, 1800s & earlier
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 April 24 07:33 BST (UK)

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…Conkey - Elizabeth Jane died on February 13th,1959 and also her husband died 3rd October 1943…

GRONI Online
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Elizabeth   Conkey   13th February 1959             80      Female   Belfast

Samuel   Conkey   3rd October 1943              65      Male              Belfast