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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: silvapagan on Sunday 21 March 10 14:42 GMT (UK)
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Hello :)
I hope no one thinks I'm being greedy by including so many names in the title of this thread!
My mum tried to do some family research years ago but came to a halt because of her mother's uncertain parentage and maiden name of Jones (Welsh too apparently). Mum has been dead for 10 years now and I've decided to try and pick up where she left off with our strange relatives.
I'll put what I know so far here in case it helps anyone else, but I'd appreciate any leads on any of the names etc
JONES
Lilian Rosina Phylis, b. 22 Dec 1909, we think either in Reading (St Giles / Silver St / Alpine St) or in Wales. Had 3 older half-siblings with a different surname. Had one or two full siblings. Her mother then married a Mr North before she died we think around 1929 (she is buried at Cemetery Junction). Lilian had 2 North half-siblings, a male and a female, and they definitely lived at Alpine St, Reading. One sibling was called Kitty (I think short for Katherine) and possibly another called Ethel.
LAY
My Grandad was always known as"Ron", but I'm not sure which way round his christian names officially were. I think his name was Harold Ronald Reginald, and he was born around 1912, we think at Elgar Rd, Reading. He had 2 older brothers, and the family had links to Huntley & Palmers, and also Huntley, Bourne and Stephens.
PAYNE
My father's side of the family. I've always been told that his family came from the Compton area. One brother Leonard who lives in Lincoln, and a brother who died as an infant called Denis.
married:
REED, mother was ne SANSUM
Elsie Frances, b. 11 April 1919 Basingstoke, d. 1982 Reading. Elsie had 1 sister Gwen, and 1 brother, both of whom I think lived in London. Gwen had a daughter, but everyone knew her as Bubbles and I have no idea what her real name was. She would have been born around 1955.
(edited to take out the only person I can be sure of that is still living, the others are dead)
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Well to start with it seems that Lilian Rosina Phylis Jones was born in Reading not Wales. Her birth registration index entry is on FreeBMD, which is available on-line here
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
JONES Lilian Rosina P registration district Reading Vol 2c page 349
These details would enable you to send for her birth certificate if you wanted - it would give both her parents names and her mothers maiden name - with a common name like Jones it might be a very good idea.
Just one small comment - we need to be careful not to mention people who might still be living here
:)
DebbieG
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This could well be her mother's remarriage from the same source
Marriages March qtr 1914
Jones Lilian H to NORTH James A registration district Reading Volume 2c page 661
:)
DebbieG
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Hi - me again ;D
playing around with the search on FreeBMD I found a marriage in 1903 Reading Reg dist
Harry Jones to Lilian Harriet Watmore
and a death in 1912 again Reading reg dist of Harry Jones aged 38. Which all seems to fit
In the index to the 1911 census - which you can search here
http://www.1911census.co.uk/
I found a household in Reading with
Lilian Jones born 1872
Lilian Jones born 1910
Annie Jones born 1908
also in the same household
Fred Watmore born 1891
Alice Watmore born 1894
George Watmore born 1896
and Emily Watmore born 1904
Unfortunatly I can't seem to find the Watmores in either the 1891 or the 1901 census at the moment - I suspect some transcription errors with the surname.
but there is a marriage in 1890 (reading Reg Dist)
Thomas Watmore and one of the possible brides is Lillien Harriet Hawkins
:)
DebbieG
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Ah ha got them in 1901 - listed as Whatmore at 4 Bedford Court off Chatham Street
Thomas Whatmore 38 bricklayer
Lillian H Whatmore 29
Frederick Whatmore 10
Alice Whatmore 7
George L Whatmore 5
Ernest Whatmore 2
All born in Reading
:)
DebbieG
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Thank you so much! I wasn't expecting an answer so quickly :)
I have taken out the living person's name from my original post, sorry I didn't realise that I shouldn't have put it in there. The Watmores are definitely known to me.
Thanks again!
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Hi Silva
Wonder if you have got anywhere with your Payne family?
I've checked to see if there was a connection with my missing great uncle William.
If I've got it right, there isn't, as it seems your grandfather was born in 1885 in Wantage area?
(William would have been 14 years old.)
If you haven't traced this part, I'll send you what I have.
Good luck
Lee