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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: nikitah on Sunday 21 March 10 12:23 GMT (UK)
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Hi, does anyone have the Currie's of Dalserf /Larkhall in their tree? we have got back to William Currie 1750 Dalserf born to William Currie & Mary Scoular but we can only find a marriage for William & a Janet Scoular then our trail runs cold , Are Janet & Mary one and the same, who are there parents? we would be most grateful if someone could point us in the right direction regards Nikita
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I share your problem. I think they are the same erson and the minister made a mistake recording one of the entries but no absolute proof. Dalserf OPR don't go back any further.
I have info on descendents of their son William born 1750 and would like to know if they had other children as I have connections with other Curries and am trying to find out if they connect with each other.
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Hi Maggie, many thanks for your reply,I had given up hope of anyone replying, I am descended from William 1750 and Janet Paterson married at Dalserf June 4th 1774 these are the children I have for them, Isabel 1775, Alexander 1777, Janet 1779,William1780, Walter 1783 my descendant who married Mary Brown, John 1785 Janet(2) 1787 Francis 1792,I have my line back to William abt 1730 and Janet/ Mary Scoular I was hoping to get back further, as there are still lots of Currie's to be found before this but just can't connect them, if you need any of the more recent line I will try to help. Regards Nikitah
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There are a few Curries buried in Dalserf churchyard.
William Currie died 15th May 1853 aged 77 years. (his wife Marion Harvie died 12th January 1855 aged 77 years).
Could this be your William who was born 1780?
Here in Scotland the parish records were usually kept by the session clerk, not the minister. (Especially in small, country parishes such as this). In many instances the posts were held by parish schoolmasters, educated men, not prone to making mistakes in important documents, so don't be tempted to take the easy way and assume that he wrote Janet instead of Mary. These names are not synonymous in Scotland, or elsewhere as far as I know.
The records of proclamation of Banns in Dalserf begin from October 1740. It is quite possible that the marriage you are looking for took place before that date.
Good luck,
Lodger
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Many thanks for your reply Lodger,very informative. I have tried S/P with a wide search between 1710 and 1750 for another Scoular marrying a William Currie even with variants there just arn't any others, except 1749 when William married Janet Scoular then in 1750 our William was born to William Currie and Mary Scoular all in Dalserf so maybe it was an older William and Mary who had our William and as you say their marriage was before 1740, funny thing is there doesn't apear to be any more children recorded for either couple, looks like that wall again ::) Kind regards Nikitah
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Hi LODGER, So sorry I called you lunchbox :-[ I have no Idea Where that came from, I keep loosing the internet so I have to be quick and didn't have time to check ::) well I got the L right didn't I? Thanks again LODGER, regards Nikitah
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That's OK, I've been called a lot worse than that in my time!
Sticks and Stones, as they say.
Lodger.
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Hi
I have Helen Currie born abt 1814 in Bothwell. Helen married Matthew Gardner on 19 Ap 1835 in Bothwell. Mybe there is a link to the Currie' of Dalserf.
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Hi Janet, many thanks for your reply, I did a quick check with Scotlands People and Familysearch, if your Helen was born at Bothwell, she was Baptised 28 of November 1813, at Bothwell, her parents where John Currie and Isobel Carstairs, Isabel and John married at Blantyre 27Th of November1803, John was the son of Robert Currie and Grizel Muir and born in the Gorbals Glasgow, Unless my Currie,s came from there prior to 1750 or Robert moved from Dalserf to Glasgow,as yet ,I can't see a connection, I f you do find a connection I would appreciate it if you would keep me posted, like wise I will do the same. Regards Nikitah
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Hi Nikitah
Thank you for your quick response and for taking the trouble to look up the info. This has been very helpful. I did think it was a long shot that there may be a connection but you nver know and if I find one I will be in touch again
Thank you
Janet
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Hi Janet, you are welcome , good luck in your search, Nikitah
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Nikitah, how did you confirm William's parents?
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Hi Sancti,thanks for your interest, Confirmed on Scotlands People , William Currie christened 21/01/1750, parents William Currie and Mary Scouler, regards Nikitah
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Hi my name is william currie and i am the last in line of the currie family you are refering to, i have a full family tree on my heritage .
I was born in hamilton south lanarkshire
William gavin currie brn 1966 (me)
William currie brn 1947 married maxine laird
Gavin prentice currie brn 1904 married catherine kane
William currie brn 1858 married elizabeth prentice
Walter currie brn 1811 married rachel muir
Walter currie brn 1783 married mary brown
William currie brn 1750 janet patterson
William currie brn ? Married mary scouler
Im sure this will match your tree !
Hopefully you may be able to assist me.
The currie were silk weavers and coal miners and lived in the dalserf larkhall hamillton area for many many years.
Hope to hear from you sonn be interested to find out where you are i live in northampton area and work as engineering manager at heathrow airport
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Hi Billy' we are already in contact, you are my second cousin, I will send you an email. Regards Nikitah.
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:D any new updates ?
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Although not from Dalserf, my Currie`s were from Dumbarton and on older certificates it was spelt Curry.
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Hi PW, thanks for your interest, there are a couple of excellent sites if you google that give the history of the Currie Clan, a quote from both Electric Scotland and the Clan Currie site "according to Derek Thompson, Professor of Celtic Literature Glasgow University,the origin of the name Currie dates from the fall of the Gaelic order in the 18th century. During this period many old Highland names were anglicized or an English name was chosen that had the faintest sound of the Gaelic one The name MacMhuirich (pronounced MacVurich )began to appear in many forms including MacMureach, MacVurich and Mac Curry then eventually took on the form of the present day Currie and other related spellings such as Curry, and Currey. The founder of the race was Muiredach O'Daly (1180-1222) an outstanding poet of his time who studied at the famous Irish College, the O'Daly's were established in their literary role as a bardic family by the 12th century. there's more if anyone is interested. So it would seem all the spellings of the name go back to one and those in Scotland probably back to Islay, the stronghold of Donald the Lord of The Isles , Muiredach fled to Islay after upsetting the O'Donnel Chief and the native Scots claimed Muiredach as their own. There seems to be no evidence to connect the Currie's of Dalserf to the other Currie's in area because of poor records, unless anyone else has any hard evidence or suggestions to get us further back, I think this must be as far as we can go. ::) thank you all for your interest, Nikitah.
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The name Currie and variants is recorded in Lanarkshire long before the fall of the Gaelic order in the 18th century. The Lanarkshire Currie families would have no connection to the highland clan system
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Thanks Sancti, but were they recorded before 1213 when Muiredach arrived in Islay and if so how can we access more info?. I have seen a tree that connects our Dalserf Currie's to Dalzeil but there's no evidence on scotlandspeople we just keep coming up against brick walls ;D Nikitah
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The earliest record of the name on SP is 1575 in Fife and Edinburgh which is nowhere near the clan system. If the name originated in Islay I would have expected more early names from the west coast.
Could the name be derived from the Currier occupation?
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Thanks again Sancti, who knows, worth thinking about, mine only go back to the mid 17 hundreds, the earliest occupation was a sawyer, then like most in the area the whole family became involved in the weaving industry, then coal mining, hard to say. Nikitah ::)
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Looking for info for my cousin Maxine Laird (wife of William Currie) family. Her father Frank Galbraith Laird was married to my great aunt Jean (Jane) Blair McCulloch. Thx
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Welcome to RootsChat, lafine.
Frank Galbraith Laird married Jean Waugh B McCulloch in Larkhall in 1933.
This information is available only on Scotland's People. Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, invest in a few credits at modest cost, and use some of them to download an image of the marriage certificate. This will cost you just £1.50 and it will tell you their ages and occupations, where they lived, and the full names of both sets of parents, including their mother's maiden names.
Using this information you should be able to work back from there.
Happy hunting!
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Hi Lafine, if you go back a few posts you will find one from williamcurrie the son of Maxine and William, try sending him a pm, you will need 3 posts first though, Nikitah.