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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cambridgeshire => England => Cambridgeshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: bedfordshire boy on Saturday 20 March 10 15:47 GMT (UK)
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I've been given a report on the Lugsdin family who lived in Croxton from c1837 to c1850 when they moved to Isleham, and a year or so later emigrated to Canada. It shows some baptisms which I can't find on the IGI, notwithstanding that baptisms at Croxton have been extracted. I can only see George 1840, and twins Benjamin and Joseph 1845 on the IGI, and I wonder if senility is advancing faster than I'd imagined.
If anyone has access to Croxton baptisms I'd be very grateful for details of any Lugsdin baptisms in the above time period, all would be children of Ladds William and Priscilla. Any burials would be a bonus! (Benjamin c1845 is probably the only one)
Many thanks in advance
David
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are these the names missing ? (taken from the 1851 census)
John Lugsdin 9
Jabez Lugsdin 8
Joseph Lugsdin 6
Charles Lugsdin 5
Martha Lugsdin 3
Charles and John have been 'submitted' to the IG with Birthplace as Croxton Park Farm.
Perhaps the person who wrote the report you are using?
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The baptisms I'm looking for are
James 22 Apr 1838
George is on the IGI bap 8 May 1840
John c1841
Jabez c1843
Joseph & Benjamin are on the IGI on 20 Jan 1845
William Ladds born 1835 allegedly baptised at Croxton also on 20 Jan 1945
Martha Jane 6 Jun 1846
Charles 1847
Whilst the family was baptist, I find it surprising that specific dates are given which I can't find, bearing in mind that three are correct
David
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Indeed !
Official GRO Birth Index is also incomplete
Births Sep 1841
Lugsden John Caxton 14 23
Births Mar 1843
LUGSDEN Jabez Caxton &c 14 34
Births Sep 1847
Lugsden Martha Jane Caxton &c 14 24
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Thanks Mort, I've been through the GRO index and the Camdex index trying to sort out this family. Martha is interesting as the birth is a year after she was allegedly baptised!
David
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Dates of birth I have from family letters and papers are:
Charlotte Priscilla 16/8/1832
William Ladds 4/10/1833
George 4/1835 d 1837
Mary Worth 10/1836
James 4/1838
George 12/1839
John
Jabez (Jay) 1/1843
Joseph & Benjamin 6/1844
Charles 1846
Martha Jane 6/1847
Frederick 4/1848 or 9
Caroline Elizabeth 30/1/1850
Ladds William Lugsdin (b 28 August 1808), stepbrother of James, John and Eliza Lugsdin, married Priscilla Worth Swannell of Radwell, Moore End, Bedfordshire, England on 6 July 1831.
After marriage they carried on the business of the farm and mill on the land previously occupied by his father, James . He subsequently moved to Cambridgeshire where for several years he was on Sir Isaac Newton's Estate at Croxton, Cambridgeshire, where most of Ladds and Priscilla's children were born.
Ladds, his wife and their boys and girls emigrated to Canada on 2 July 1852. They were 7 weeks and 3 days coming across the Atlantic Ocean in a sailing vessel.
On a hot Sunday morning, 31 August 1852, they landed at Toronto, at that time a city of only 30,000 inhabitants.
Photo here - http://www.facebook.com/home.php?filter=fl_86969856975#!/photo.php?pid=2119386&op=1&o=global&view=global&subj=7098538377&id=726876975
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Thanks Graham - I was really hoping that someone with access to Croxton PR could confirm or otherwise the baptisms that were included in someone's tree. If some "facts" turn out to be fictitious then I treat any other data with some suspicion
Interesting that you too think that Jabez transmogrified into Jay at some stage between 1861 and 1866. The ages are right, Jabez disappears, Jay appears, and Lugsdin wasn't exactly a common name. Unfortunately Jay's 1866 marriage in Montreal doesn't include fathers' names
David
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Hi David,
Interesting that you too think that Jabez transmogrified into Jay at some stage between 1861 and 1866. The ages are right, Jabez disappears, Jay appears, and Lugsdin wasn't exactly a common name. Unfortunately Jay's 1866 marriage in Montreal doesn't include fathers' names
The only additional information I have on Jay comes from a letter from his brother Joseph in Toronto, dated 27 Feb 1897 -
"My brother Jay who without doubt was the flower of the flock in our family has for many (25) years accepted a very honorable, lucrative & responsible position in San Francisco California as Manager of a New York branch mercantile firm. We do not see much of him as he is over 3000 miles from this City. He is a very healthy, robust, handsome looking man & is a self-made man having risen from the postion of Office boy to the one he now occupies & I am given to understand his present salary is $25,000 a year. He is married but has only one daughter of his own a very handsome young lady ..."
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Thanks again Graham, that seems to establish that he was from the right family, not that I doubted it!
The fact that he also married the boss's sister may have had something to do with his rise from office boy!
When her brother, R G Dun, died c1900 he left her $100,000 in his will (out of a total estate estimated to be $2.5m). She had two children from her previous marriage, followed by Flora in 1869 in Canada.
Jay died in San Francisco on 26 Nov 1919 (http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/picdata/CA/deaths/190_/CA___de90_LUGSDI-0.jpg )
Was the letter written to one of his cousins in Australia?
Regards
David
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Was the letter written to one of his cousins in Australia?
Very interesting information, David.
Yes the letter was written to his step cousin Frank in Australia, the son of step-brother John & Mary Stonebanks.
It is amongst numerous family letters I have inherited - letters from Eliza Topham (nee Lugsdin 1850), James & Mary Ann Topham (1854, 1874, 1876), Joseph Lugsdin (1897, 1898 x 2, 1905) and numerous grandchildren of Ladds & Priscilla Lugsdin in Canada, plus numerous grandchildren of Robert Thorns Lugsdin in England, as well as letters from relatives and residents of Colmworth, Sharnbrook & Riseley.
Cheers,
Graham
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Thanks Graham. It's great that you have so many old letters, which doubtless contain all sorts of day to day information about their lives, which help to bring them alive
David
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Sometimes I'm a bit slow!
Jay/Jabez Lugsdin's wife was Jane Mary Dun. Her brother was Robert Graham Dun, whose company, for which Jay was manager of the San Francisco branch, was R.G.Dun and Co.
In 1933 R G Dun & Co merged with the Bradstreet company to form Dun & Bradstreet
Little wonder that when R G Dun died in 1900 he was a very rich man
David