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Title: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: er4ZyY7u on Saturday 20 March 10 00:28 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Looking for more regarding Bertrams/Bartrams that lived within Durham and Northumberland.

Currently looking for more information on a Robert Bertram who married a Jennet/Janet Dudgeon. They had two children that I know of Alexander Bartram (b. 1805) and William Bartram (b. 1808).

These birth records can be found within "Old Postern Or Clavering Place Unit Sec Or Scotch Newc, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England".

William Bartram married Harriet (b. 1813), formerly Summerbell.

Let me know.
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 20 March 10 00:53 GMT (UK)
Also posted on the Durham board

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=445071.new
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: WolfieSmith on Saturday 20 March 10 16:50 GMT (UK)
Two baptisms at High Bridge Meeting in Newcastle :

Robert Bertram and Janet Dudgeon his wife, had a daughter born in the parish of St. Johns, on the 19th Sept, and baptised 17 Nov 1801. Name Janet. Witnesses Adam Golightly and James Gibson.

Robert Bertram, native of Dunse Scotland, and Janet Dudgeon native of Stitchel Scotland his spouse, had a son born in the parish of St. Johns on Dec 22 1802, and baptised 18 Jan 1803. Name John. Witnesses Adam Golightly and Alexander Lindsey.

Two baptisms at Clavering Place United Secession Chapel in Newcastle :

Alexander Bertram, son of Robert and Jennett Bertram, born 11 Dec 1805 in the parish of St.Johns, baptised Jan 19th 1806, by Rev W. Pringle.

William Bertram, son of Robert Bertram and Jennet Dudgeon, born April 19 1808 in the parish of St.Johns, baptised May 22 1808, by Rev W. Pringle.

Alan.

   
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: er4ZyY7u on Saturday 20 March 10 17:05 GMT (UK)
Alan,

Thank you very much for the information. I am a direct descendant of Robert and Janet (Dudgeon) so this information is priceless.

Were these records part of your research? Or did you just happen to know where/how to look? I am curious because I had thought my search exhaustive.

Thank you again,

Sam
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: Crathorne on Saturday 20 March 10 19:42 GMT (UK)
Hello to a member of the Bertram/Bartram clan.  I too have them as ancestors!  Rbt & Janet had another son they called Robert b. 01/06/1815 baptised 02/07/1815 at the Presbyterian Chapel in South Shields.  Robert Bertram was a wheelwright by trade.  Their son Wm married a Harriet Summerbell 11/06/1831 at Durham St Margarets.  I have plenty of info re Harriet, her siblings & step siblings plus her parents & g.parents and of course Wm & Harriet's own children

Regards
Crathorne
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: er4ZyY7u on Saturday 20 March 10 20:00 GMT (UK)
Crathorne,

I will send you a PM contacting you with my email.

Sam
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: WolfieSmith on Saturday 20 March 10 20:51 GMT (UK)
Hello happy relatives.
Do you have the full baptism record of Robert Bertram, born South Shields. Thats the only extra info i have.
Alan.
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: WolfieSmith on Saturday 20 March 10 21:17 GMT (UK)
Hello ecron and Crathorne,
just read ecrons post again. I'm not related, I just have access to some obscure BMds through a subscription. pm me your email address and I'll send you copies of the original documents.
re. Crathornes prompt of the baptism of another son Robert in South Shields  I've looked at it and its very detailed, goes back to grandparents, hence my query if he/she already has the full details.
Alan
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: er4ZyY7u on Saturday 20 March 10 21:22 GMT (UK)
Alan,

Sent you a PM. Thank you for your help.

Sam
Title: Re: Bertram/Bartram
Post by: Crathorne on Saturday 20 March 10 22:13 GMT (UK)
Hello Alan

Yes I've all those wonderful details about Sorrowless Field etc - a potted family history in one go.   I did manage to restrain myself from doing a jig across the - always - crowded space at DRO but only just.  Then of course that led me to Google and discovered lots more info about the names that are mentioned as witnesses - some are relatives.  But finding these posts tonight did me a good turn as I didn't know of the births/baptisms of Janet & John.  A great big thank you for them.
Regards
Crathorne
ps have already emailed info to ecron