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Title: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: galiano on Monday 21 March 05 18:26 GMT (UK)
Anything at all appreciated about   Thomas Lupton b 23 May 1812 Dunston, Lincoln
married  9 Sept, 1834 to Ann Cook ( spelling ? )  b circa 1814

Particularly children or parents of.

Thanks kindly for your help. 
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: churchspotter on Monday 21 March 05 19:08 GMT (UK)
There were several LUPTONs at Dunston in 1841

The only Thomas that I could find was aged 25 and living with

Edmund 50 Publican
Elizabeth 50
Elizabeth GRESHAM 10
Ann ELLIS 15

All born Lincs.  Relationships not given and adult ages rounded down.

Presumably this is the Thomas LUPTON baptised to Edmund and Elizabeth 13 Oct 1812 as on IGI

Wendy Parkinson
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: churchspotter on Monday 21 March 05 19:14 GMT (UK)
In 1851, the Thomas above was living with his widowed mother, married brother Edmund and family at Dunston.

Wendy
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: churchspotter on Monday 21 March 05 19:25 GMT (UK)
One of the Thomas LUPTONs baptised in 1812 was buried at Dunston 1 Nov 1854 aged 42.

As Thomas was living with his mother, Elizabeth, widow of Edmund, in 1861, I think it would be safe to assume that it was the son of John and Elizabeth (baptised 23 May 1812) who died prematurely.

Wendy Parkinson
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: galiano on Monday 21 March 05 22:26 GMT (UK)
Hello Wendy :     :)    Many thanks for your prompt reply.  This is quite amazing to get such excellent help with our family history.    I'll have to look closely at the information you've provided to see how it fits with what we know.


Cheers,    :)

Bob Walker
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: galiano on Tuesday 22 March 05 00:01 GMT (UK)
Hi again Wendy : 

I have had a long look at the information you sent and I am certain that my line is Thomas Lupton baptised 23 May 1812 d. Nov 1854.    Your information is a real help.  :)
I hope you don't mind if I ask you a few more questions. 

1 ) Could your refer me to where you found Thomas' parents names ?  This adds another generation to our family tree and I'd like to follow this if possible

2) Was this Thomas married to Ann Cook ?

3) Any idea what their children's names were ?   

Cheers,   :D

Bob Walker, North Saanich, Vancouver Island, Canada
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: churchspotter on Tuesday 22 March 05 07:47 GMT (UK)
I have found no information at all about "your" Thomas apart from his baptism (from the IGI extraction programme) and his burial.  Next time I am at Lincolnshire Archives, I can verify the baptism and burial for you.

All the data I found seems to be for the other Thomas baptised the same year (again from the IGI)

I have disregarded all the submitted entries on the IGI but note that one of them suggests Elizabeth GRESHAM as the mother of "your" Thomas.

I thought it was significant that Elizabeth GRESHAM was in the household of Edmund and Elizabeth LUPTON in 1841 - shame that relationships were not stated that year!

Wendy
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 09 May 06 10:43 BST (UK)
edmond lupton aged 60yrs buried 20th july 1849 dunston st peters.
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: galiano on Tuesday 09 May 06 17:12 BST (UK)
Hi Alibaker :

Thanks for this reply.  I'm not quite sure where this Edmund fits.  Have you anything more about him ?

Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: Geoff E on Tuesday 09 May 06 19:58 BST (UK)
Hi Alibaker :

Thanks for this reply.  I'm not quite sure where this Edmund fits.  Have you anything more about him?



This was surely the one found by Wendy P in the first reply.

I see that no one has mentioned (in 1841)

Edmund LUPTON 25 AgLab
Sarah 20
Thomas 1

or
Harriet LUPTON 15 FemServ

or
John LUPTON 65 AgLab
Edmund 15

Interestingly, there was a Thomas LUPTON (c1814, Dunston) still alive on the 1881 census, as well as the one who died in 1854 aged 42 .... was he the son of John or the son of Edmund I wonder ... both seem to have been baptised in 1812.

I guess the one in Martin in 1881 was the one who married Anne COOK in Timberland (less than a mile away) in 1834 ... I've found them in 1841, in Martin

Thomas LUPTON 25 AgLab
Ann 25
John 5
Betsy 2
Sarah 6m

Here they were in 1851 (in Martin)

Thomas LUPTON 39 AgLab, Dunston
Ann 39
Elizabeth 11
Sarah 10
Thomas 8
Richard 7
Charles 4
Susan 2
Harriet 4m

also in Martin
John LUPTON 15 Farm Lab

Thomas LUPTON was buried at Martin 24 June 1891 age 79.  He was the one who married Ann COOK ... she was buried at Martin 11 Oct 1890 age 78.  I believe he was the son of John LUPTON and Elizabeth (the names of his first two children).
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: Geoff E on Tuesday 09 May 06 21:34 BST (UK)
One of the Thomas LUPTONs baptised in 1812 was buried at Dunston 1 Nov 1854 aged 42.

As Thomas was living with his mother, Elizabeth, widow of Edmund, in 1861, I think it would be safe to assume that it was the son of John and Elizabeth (baptised 23 May 1812) who died prematurely.

I'm afraid that Wendy was mistaken ... Thomas was not with Elizabeth in 1861 so I would assume that the one that died was son of Edmund and Elizabeth.

A possible father of your Thomas, John LUPTON was buried at Dunston 29 March 1853 age 79 - the 1851 census gives John's birthplace as Dunston.  This would suggest he was the John LUPTON bap  29 Sept 1773, son of John and Mary.
Title: Re: 1841/51 census : Lupton
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 10 May 06 00:14 BST (UK)
1861

Martin
Thomas LUPTON 49 AgLab, Dunston
Ann 49
John 25 AgLab, Dunston
Elizabeth 22 Dressmaker
Richard 15 AgLab
Charles 13 AgLab
Susan 11 Scholar
Harriet 9 Scholar
Ann 7 Scholar
Others born Martin

1871 Martin
Thomas LUPTON 59 Cotager and Skinner, Dunston
Ann 59
Thomas 27 AgLab
Charles 23 AgLab
Susan 20
Harriet 18
John J 1 ("son" but I doubt it!)
Others born Martin

1881 Martin
Thomas LUPTON 67 Cottager, Dunston
Ann 67
Thomas 38 AgLab
John J 11 ("grandson" - that's more like it!)
William BATE 15 Gen Servant (Dom), Digby
Others born Martin

1891 Martin
Thomas LUPTON 78 Farmer, Dunston
Charles 43 Farm Lab
Sarah (d-i-law) 39
Charles 13 Gardener
Mary Ann 13 Schol
Sarah Eliz 11 Scholar
Matilda 6 Scholar
Minnie 4 Scholar
William Claypole LUPTON (g-son) 2
Thomas 48 Farm Lab
John Thomas (g-son) 20 FarmLab
Others born Martin