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I am trying to find a marriage for Ralph Forster b28/6/1829 at Mickleton married Mary ??? born at Romaldkirk There 1st son is Joseph b abt 1850
Also his father Thomas Forster (Foster) married Ann (Nancy) born Middleton Teesdale.
Their 1st child Pheobe b 29 April 1827 followed by Ralph above
Brian
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Hi
A little difficult as there three Mary's married to Ralph Forster, 1849 -1850, Weardale, Teesdale area. However although I think to be certain you may need a birth certificate of one of the children to prove it, there was a marriage Weardale 1849 to Mary Addison.
In the 1851 census living with Ralph, Mary and Joseph is a son Jno Addison aged 5. Now whether Mary had been married before or Jno was born out of wedlock I'm not sure yet.
Evie
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Evie, Thanks.
I have seen the 3 marriages and also lean towards the Addison marriage , one reason being that My wife (whose family this is) thinks there were Addisons in the distant family line.
Also confusion on 1851 census is Ralph in 2 places at once see
HO107 piece 2387 folio 621 page 11. it looks as if father Thomas has died ut the rest of the family are still together
Brian
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I see what you mean and yet the Ralph living with his mother is down as unmarried :-\
Do you think we might have two different families here? I know the 1851 I was looking at was Foster but the places of birth were the same and he was also a lead miner. The age was out by 5 years not too unusual though
Evie
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Just been looking at the index of Durham Records Online.
Ralph Forster baptised 1829 Middleside, Teesdale
Ralph Foster baptised 1825 Middleton in Teesdale, Teesdale
Ralph Foster baptised 1825 Hawkshead [Aukside?], Teesdale
The 1829 one only has a father called Thomas
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Brian
I don't know what you think but they are two different Ralphs going by the 1841 census. The Ralph I was looking at in 1851 I believe although I could be wrong had a father called Ralph.
How did you come by the Ralph with parents as Thomas and Nancy as yours?
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Evie, I was just typing the reply that I don't know if I now have the correct father in Thomas, I had taken it from the 1829 entry. but maybe it is the 1825.
What I do know working back,
John Thomas Forster b 1878 at Foggarthwaite, Eggleston father Ralph (farmer) mother Eliz Walton have the birth cert.
Ralph above b abt 1853 on 1891 census living at Stapleton Yorkshire, it may be from this Ralph b 1853 I have latched onto the wrong father.
Just noticed a clue on 1891 cenusu because Ralphs aunt Jane Forster (Spinster is staying with them b abt 1838 at Mickleton.
Brian
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Also another aunt Adalina Forster b abt 1822 living with ralph in 1891 SHE IS BORN AT SOUTH CHURCH.
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Sorry it should read 1901 census above not 1891
Brian
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1891 census reveals all, father is JOHN FORSTER (Foster) aged 68 born Middleton, sisters Jane and Adalina all living with son Ralp Foster (note spelling) at Stapleton
Brian
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So is this the family in 1841 belonging to your Ralph that married Mary Addison (possibly)
HO107; Piece 1247; Book: 7; Folio: 7; Page: 8; Line: 6
With parents Ralph and Jane. If so you need a marriage of Ralph born about 1801 from Stanhope according to the 1851, unfortunately Jane has died.
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Evie, I think That I have been on the wrong line.
John Thomas Forster b 1878// his father Ralph b abt 1853 // his father John born abt 1826.
All the other Ralphs/Thomas /Addison etc at the moment don't fit in
At the moment I am following the census to see who John married he is a widower on 1891/1881 and his 2 sisters are living in as housekeeper
Brian
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That's ok Brian, I'll leave you in peace :) so you can get sorted :D
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Evie,
Following on from the line above ,John Thomas/Ralph/John
John's father IS Ralph b 1801 Stanhope wife Jane and Ralph's father MAYBE
John Foster who married Sarah Martindale 1801 Stanhope, (this is circumstantial, have not got a direct connection)
Have not got a wedding for Ralph B1801 and Jane, their 1st child Adalina born abt 1823 at South Church or West Auckland, according to census
Brian
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Are there any on line records for South Church to find the birth of Adalina abt 1823.
Brian
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If you check out the Durham Place-name index http://nd.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/dro.nsf/vwebplaces
you will see that South Church and West Auckland were both in the Parish of Auckland St Helen.
Durham Records Online (pay-per-view) has got the St Helen's Baptisms from 1813 to 1824.
Otherwise you could try browsing the Bishops Transcripts which also contain records from St Helen's. http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=waypoint;s=waypointsOnly;c=1309819;w=0
Jennifer
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Thanks Jennifer :)
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Thanks Jennifer :)
Perhaps Brian has found this of some use ??? ???
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Thanks Jen,
Bishop transcripts for St Helens not available at the moment, I did not realise that this church covered West Auckland and South Church areas.
Brian
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Bishop transcripts for St Helens not available at the moment,
I've just checked - they are definitely there. It is only image 1 which is not available.
Jennifer
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I did not realise that this church covered West Auckland and South Church areas.
That place-name index I gave earlier is worth its weight in gold, and well worth book-marking.
The Genuki place-name index is also excellent http://www.joinermarriageindex.com/pjoiner/genuki/DUR/fullindex.html
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Jen B, Thanks again.
Found marriage of Ralph to Jane Simpson in 1822 but at St Andrews not St Helens, also baptism of oldest child Adalina.
Now looking for Jane Simpson birth.
Brian
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I am trying to find a marriage for Ralph Forster b28/6/1829 at Mickleton married Mary ??? born at Romaldkirk There 1st son is Joseph b abt 1850Also his father Thomas Forster (Foster) married Ann (Nancy) born Middleton Teesdale.Their 1st child Pheobe b 29 April 1827 followed by Ralph above
Thomas Forster and Nancy/Ann's son Ralph born 1829 married Elizabeth Brunskill in 1853
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I am trying to find a marriage for Ralph Forster b28/6/1829 at Mickleton married Mary ??? born at Romaldkirk There 1st son is Joseph b abt 1850Also his father Thomas Forster (Foster) married Ann (Nancy) born Middleton Teesdale.Their 1st child Pheobe b 29 April 1827 followed by Ralph above
Thomas Forster and Nancy/Ann's son Ralph born 1829 married Elizabeth Brunskill in 1853
Do you have Ralph, Mary and their son Joseph on the 1851 census? If so, where were they living and does it say where Joseph was born.
Boo
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I don't have info on the Ralph Forster who married Mary - what I was meaning was that the Ralph Forster born 1829 whose parents were Thomas and Ann Forster wasn't the one who married Mary ...he married Elizabeth Brunskill in 1853.
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Not sure which Ralph you are after, the one marrying Mary or the one marrying Elizabeth.
If its the one marrying Mary :
1851 census, Garth House, Mickleton, Yorkshire.
Ralph Foster, 26, Lead Miner, b. Middleton, Durham.
Mary ", wife, 26, b. Romaldkirk, Yorkshire,
Jno Addison, son, 5, b. Middleton, Durham,
Jos Foster, son, 1, b. Mickleton, Yorkshire,
HO107/2387/553/16
There is a Margaret Addison next door, age 60, could be Marys mother.
Ralph Forster married Mary Addison 16 May 1849 Wolsingham.
Alan.